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the one thing i have in my life is a very smart common sense factor, and when i know i shouldnt do something when i have the feeling to not do something, then i go against my judgement and do it, i fixed the ac today in my 93, big deal, i should have stopped as soon as i got under the car and saw the rotten oil pan. this car is suck a :q:q:q:qing pile of dog:q:q:q:q i wish i never bought it, i knew when i test drove it i shouldnt have bought the thing, but i figured hey, i'm jamie, i can fix it, i can make it nice, i can sink money and labor into it, and i can still have a p.o.s its official, the car is done, its gonna sit at the shop and rot some more until i feel like taking it apart and selling whatever i can off it to make nothing. unlike you guys who have had the bad luck pop up lately my whole life has been this way, whatever i do to try and better my life turns around and bites me in the ass 10 fold everytime. i'm really losing interest in the whole automotive world. now my wife has no car, which means her and the kids are now stuck in the house until i can figure out a way to get her another vehicle, which i cant see happening anytime soon there is no money to go buy anything. oh well, thats life, one less car now.

and please dont start asking for parts off it, i am not doing anything with it for quite some time if you want parts off it, come buy the car.
 
Jamie, is the car leaking oil because of a rotted rusted out pan or does it just have a slow leak around the gasket? If you got the air fixed, you jumped one of the biggest hurdles already. An oil pan change for you wouldn't be sh!t. After that, the moon roof track and glass out of the rose mist and you're pretty much done with the hardest part.

You can say that you're going to let it set there and rot all you want but I know you better than that lol. I seriously think you had a bad week at work and Thursday and Friday must have been the worse because yesterday and today, you have been overly bitchy and knowing you like I do, something at the job is going on and pissing you off but that's kinda normal.

I do have one simple question though. How often does Pete actually get out and drive? I'm not trying to get all in the family business but it seems like he would at least let his own daughter drive what he has setting in the driveway if she had to go somewhere. Just until you either get the 93 straight or until you come across something better. If you need a fuel pump, I have one that I know works perfectly. I'll send it to you for nothing, just so you'll fix that damn car.

I know you're gonna come back at me raising hell lol but if I send you a set of lights, are you going to be in the mood to do them? I can pay now and I'll wait two weeks to get them back. Ok, go ahead and give it to me, cause I know it's coming. :p
 
Wish I could help you out man. Were you able to fix the a/c problem, did you just notice the oil leak, but is it just a leak, and nothing is wrong?
 
that sucks

but come tomorrow or later this weak he will have already dropped the sub frame and installed a new pan on it. :rolleyes:

i know money is tight, but you do motor swaps in a weekend, now the a/c and an oil pan sent you over the top? Next week will seem so much better and in 2 weeks it will all be straightened out.
 
Jamie if you were closer I would give you my black 96 to drive, sorry to hear the problems. You know they gotta get better.
 
I know its a PITA and you dont wanna do it but for a temp measure couldnt you pull the pan off the new Mark with the blown engine?
 
... How about you give her that nice silver gen 2 you just got.

Nevermind saw the motor is dead.... I know you are good at swapping motors and thoroughly enjoy it tho.
 
the whole pan is all rotten, the entire bottom of the pan is seaping but there is a massive leak coming from somewhere else when i had it running filling it with freon i looked down under the battery area all over the shop floor was a huge puddle of oil, the whole bottom of the front end is soaked in it, and there was nothing on the dip stick, you guys dont get it though, i'm not changing the pan on it, the car has too many things wrong with it, its a total basket case i am ashamed i offered it for sale on here, i dont drive it so i never look at it but its a total terd dont suggest fixing it, if i feel this way about a mark VIII that the car is BAD PERIOD. if i can say this about my own car then i think i know what is best. i am not fixing the car, we both dont want it. and terry nothing happend at work to piss me off, i am just sick of life in general, like i said, everytime i turn around something goes wrong, i'm trying to save money for a trip to mass for a week with my wife and kids and now this, now we need another car. and as far as asking to use petes car no, she can ask if she wants but i'm not getting into asking to use his car. i am gonna look at the oil pressure sending unit tomorrow after work, i think thats what is pissing oil, if it is, i will slap one on it, and she can drive it till we somehow crap out the money to get another car. i am not in a good mood because i am tired of breaking my balls and getting nowhere, i cant take it anymore.
 
Well, like I said, I didn't want to get all up in the family thing but maybe after you fix the oil leak, you might feel a little better about doing a few other things to it here and there. I know it runs good because I heard it and it sounds damn good. Has nice rims and from what I remember, it had good tires. I know you have replaced most of the front end parts on it and now I'm assuming the air is working again?

Sheri might not want it but with the little fixes done to it, it will at least get her and the kids where they need to go, until you come across something better. Try to make it last till income tax time if possible and trade it in on something other than a Mark. I know you like yours but I do seriously think you're getting burned out on the whole Mark thing. I figured something happened at work, I didn't know. You know you go through these thoughts, "like you are now" about every 6 months or so. Things will get better, just like they always have in the past. Just give it some time, things will fall into place.
 
hopefully the only thing that falls into place is a bolt of lightning! i'm not fixing it terry, you dont know me if you think i am only upset, that car is a pile of dog :q:q:q:q, i will never fix it, i have already done so much to it i wont sink another dime into that car unless its to pay to have the shell hauled off. i will check the oil leak, if its a pressure sensor i will change it, just to make the car driveable but it has seen its day, i am done with it, everything i put on that car will come off. i'm not getting any other kind of car for her, she loves marks, and i dont have to pay for 3/4 of the stuff it takes to fix one, so it would be stupid to buy a different type of car. the only thing she will have this time is a second gen, something newer, less miles, from the south, and in much better shape this 93 is a new jersey car, i didnt know it till now, its not worth me fixing and i have zero interest in doing anything to it. so, thats that, i'm not fixing it. if everyone thinks is worth fixing, be my guest, come buy it and fix it, cuz i wont.
 
Can you use the 93 to get a loan and fix the engine in the silver Gen 2 and satisfy her at the same time? Really a loan shouldn't be needed if Pete would take payments. Everything on the silver one is just about new. Tell him he can have all the part money off the 93 or something. Hell, there has to be a way to fix all this unless you run across another one for a good deal, which you're good at doing. The 97 just needs some engine work and she should be happy as hell with that car. It looks good from what I saw of it.
 
the 97 is a parts car, i'm not fixing that car either, if i fix the 97, i can move out at the end of the month when the rent is due, i dont fix our parts cars, we buy parts car to part them to pay bills. the 97 needs more work than the 93.
 
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Jamie,

you are not the only one that feels life sucks with both lips! I have a 93 that needs a ton of work. The air ride is a total pita. I see these guys that find super deals on marks for nearly nothing. Never happens to me. Actually, you and several others on here gave me the desire to fix mine up and begin accruing a harem of marks for my driveway! I got laid off from my A&P job at American Airlines in 2004, went to captain flying corporate and have been let go or laid off 4 times since. The economy sucks, I am doing anything I can to make a buck. Did a fuel pump on a silverado, brakes and ball joints on a sable and detailed a 2007 silverado for resale last week. I don't know if I have any work from day to day. If you have a job you are lucky. So, keep the chin up, keep after it and someday you and I will still die pennyless. LOL!
 
I feel your pain bro! I have the 94 mark which needs valve (or cam) cover gaskets to be done soon and I bought a 1997 exploder with the awd and the 5.0 for cheap with 132,000 on the clock and just damn near built the whole truck over and now the a/c just crapped out, started a light valve tap, amoung other issues! THEY ARE ALL F*CKING MONEY PITS!!!! sometimes I just want to pull my f*cking hair out!!
 
Jamie, to bad you don't live closer to me. You would be more than welcome to drive my 96 lsc as long as you needed. Let me know if I can help you out.
 
dont feel bad i have $4000 tied up in a car that i can not get off a lift. right now i havent slept or properly bathed in 4 days. i have had my subframe out 3 times and can not figure out this whole addco sway bar binding bs. i am feeling the mark viii blues to. you are a very good person so i have faith things will fall into place 4 u.
 
I know the feeling too. Hell, I had around 4K invested into the 94 and all because of stupidity, I blew the damn thing up. I wasn't given an option to have full coverage because of it's age so all I had was liability. 4K gone and OUT OF A CAR! Then I have to find another, which Jamie had and there went another 2K out of pocket, plus the flight getting there and gas getting back. Then there was around 5 to 8K worth of stuff out in the garage that was burned and lost. Insurance wouldn't pay for any of the stuff, just the garage repairs which btw they are just now getting around to doing after nearly 8 months.

I'm not loaded with money but I do have a little but it's because I save money. I raise an 8 year old son on my own. I have priorities that make me save money, when there is money to save. My father just died last month, right here in this house on the 8th of July and I found him in his bed. Sh!t happens sometimes. Luckily my son has 20K coming to him when he turns 19 (my dads life insurance policy) but when my dad died, I had to pay $1600 for cremation out of my pocket. When I start getting something saved, something happens. That's just life and yes, sometimes it sucks.

Slapping money at my Mark VIII is not one of my priorities and never will be. Yeah, I could mod the hell out of it, if I wanted to but it's fast enough as it is. The body is near excellent, the paint is near excellent. It has an oil leak too. When the garage is done, I'll fix it and keep going. It gets me where I need to go. I put black interior in it because it was free and out of the 94.

Yes, I paid $700 for a new grille and headlight housings but I wanted the front end to look as close to new as possible but I will not drop another dollar into that car unless it's for maintenance or gas. Now school started today and they will bum me for money all damn year. My 8 year old went into the 2nd grade today and I bet he comes home with papers asking for donations to this and that. Had to buy school supplies, school clothes, ect... I rent my home, it's not mine. Bottom line, life isn't always good. It's as good as you want to make it.
 
Blah blah blah. Come on Jaime, enough with the self pity. You have a shop and a means to change your situation easier than you think. If I had your skill and shop I would change a few things. I would expand from the dying Mark VIII platform to all Lincoln parts and make some real money. With the economy in the crapper people are holding on to their cars. Take advantage of it. When business gets too much hire help. You have the tools and skill, fu@king use them. Raise your prices. Still be competitive but make it worth your while. You have the parts to fix this 93, so just do it. If you get big enough make it your full time gig and quit the sh!try job you have. There are others on this board who would kill for the opportunities you have so take advantage of it for God's sake.
 
I never have extra money to buy anything I "want"! I don't live week to week, worse I live "day to day"! Literally Day to day! I am broke every night after I get what we need for the day and put the money for my bills aside. I take my bills and add them all up and then divide them bye 30! That is how much I have to put in the box that day for my bills! Then whatever is left over usually buys diapers, cigs, laundry detergent etc... Then the next day I am out trying to find another way to make some money. I will do whatever someone needs done to make a buck. I never turn anything down. What keeps me going is knowing someday when my wife finishes college she will make decent money and we will be able to have a steady income! But I am only telling my situation because I have it bad too. Nothing guaranteed and not alot of oppurtunities to make money! But I know I have to do something so my kids will have what they need. Also I don't talk about it because I feel it is a waste of time that I could be using to think about other ways to make a living! My mind never rests bro! So just keep your head up and keep on keeping on bro. The economy is :q:q:q:q and unless youre a scientific engineer or something professional than there is'nt much jobs out there. But you do have a good oppurtunity and nice shop to make some things happen. So just keep your head up and keep on keeping on and remember alot of folks are bad off!!!
 
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Blah blah blah. Come on Jaime, enough with the self pity. You have a shop and a means to change your situation easier than you think. If I had your skill and shop I would change a few things. I would expand from the dying Mark VIII platform to all Lincoln parts and make some real money. With the economy in the crapper people are holding on to their cars. Take advantage of it. When business gets too much hire help. You have the tools and skill, fu@king use them. Raise your prices. Still be competitive but make it worth your while. You have the parts to fix this 93, so just do it. If you get big enough make it your full time gig and quit the sh!try job you have. There are others on this board who would kill for the opportunities you have so take advantage of it for God's sake.
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how can you tell me to charge more money? some of you guys make it sound like i am an auto repair shop. i dont have customers who come in daily for work, my shop is a place we rent so we have a place to take mark's apart, i dont think i could strip cars in my rented house. i am not an auto repair shop, i might fix someones car once a month if i am lucky. i dont have the time in my life to spend more time in my shop, i work fulltime, i am married and have 2 young kids, its not like i can go to my shop and fix stuff for people whenever i want. i worked in my shop for 4 1/2 years, thats all i did, i didnt work for anyone at a real job, i went back to work because i wasnt making any money anymore. i want to go back to massachusetts, but since we take care of my my wifes sick father, we are stuck here, he wont go back to mass, and my wife wont leave him until he dies, because the rest of his family could care less about him, so thats why i am misserable, no one here knows anything about my personal life because i dont care to discuss it, but now you all know, for 13 years of my life i have had to live my life through other people because thats the cards we were dealt so there isnt a whole lot to be happy about right now not being able to have my own family like most normal people have, the situation here sucks, but thats life.


and the other thing that you guys arent listening too is, fix the 93, fix the 93, you have the stuff to do it, I DONT CARE IF I HAVE THE STUFF TO DO IT, THE CAR IS A RUSTED OUT PILE OF :q:q:q:q, I DONT WANT TO FIX IT, PERIOD, its not a matter of doing it, getting the parts, i dont want the car fixed its not worth it, i part out marks in twice the cindition this thing is in, we dont want to fix it, its nothing but a rusty wiring problem nightmare. stop telling me to fix it cuz i have the parts or skills, the car is a piece of :q:q:q:q its not worth fixing it, no one is hearing what i am saying its beyond being worth fixing.
 
BAD97LSC said:
how can you tell me to charge more money? some of you guys make it sound like i am an auto repair shop. i dont have customers who come in daily for work, my shop is a place we rent so we have a place to take mark's apart, i dont think i could strip cars in my rented house. i am not an auto repair shop, i might fix someones car once a month if i am lucky. i dont have the time in my life to spend more time in my shop, i work fulltime, i am married and have 2 young kids, its not like i can go to my shop and fix stuff for people whenever i want. i worked in my shop for 4 1/2 years, thats all i did, i didnt work for anyone at a real job, i went back to work because i wasnt making any money anymore. i want to go back to massachusetts, but since we take care of my my wifes sick father, we are stuck here, he wont go back to mass, and my wife wont leave him until he dies, because the rest of his family could care less about him, so thats why i am misserable, no one here knows anything about my personal life because i dont care to discuss it, but now you all know, for 13 years of my life i have had to live my life through other people because thats the cards we were dealt so there isnt a whole lot to be happy about right now not being able to have my own family like most normal people have, the situation here sucks, but thats life.


and the other thing that you guys arent listening too is, fix the 93, fix the 93, you have the stuff to do it, I DONT CARE IF I HAVE THE STUFF TO DO IT, THE CAR IS A RUSTED OUT PILE OF :q:q:q:q, I DONT WANT TO FIX IT, PERIOD, its not a matter of doing it, getting the parts, i dont want the car fixed its not worth it, i part out marks in twice the cindition this thing is in, we dont want to fix it, its nothing but a rusty wiring problem nightmare. stop telling me to fix it cuz i have the parts or skills, the car is a piece of :q:q:q:q its not worth fixing it, no one is hearing what i am saying its beyond being worth fixing.
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Yet you still do work on others cars including paint, and as you say you do part cars. All I am saying is that if someone asks for work to be done, make it worth your while and charge a price that will make it worth the effort. You aren't Jesus or mother Theresa, you don't have to carry everyone else's burden around.
I and others have been through many hard times. My wife nearly died 3 times over a period of 9 months and we nearly lost every thing we had because of it. She wound up being out of work for 14 months and she has a Master's degree. We bounced back, sooner or later you will too. I don't know how much you tell your wife, but I sure as hell would have a talk with her if you haven't already. My wife is from Massachusetts, she tells me all the time about the things she misses up there.
As for the '93, part it, crush it, do whatever you want to with it so that it doesn't add to the stress.
 
Jamie if you do in fact part it I've got dibs on the 93 shaft. Sucks it is sucking the life out of you...I feel your pain. You know my phone is on any time you need to call bud. Seriously if you ever need to call and just vent feel free to call me. I'm all ears.

We need to get out to that spring hill car show so you can enjoy your working Mark VIII that everyone drools over. It's on Thursdays.

Here's a link to it...
http://springhilldrifters.com/
 
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