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94m5 said:
You also have the correct offset wheels for the markviii.

We are running 24mm offset mustang wheels.
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ok then explain to me why my old speedstars, which are exatly the same to my black ones in every way, are rubbing on my great 8's 98 mark, with stock air ride and its an inch and a half higher than my car in the rear?
 
BAD97LSC said:
ok then explain to me why my old speedstars, which are exatly the same to my black ones in every way, are rubbing on my great 8's 98 mark, with stock air ride and its an inch and a half higher than my car in the rear?
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Are they rubbing on both side or just one?

If its just one then I would say his car is just a little off center... I've heard of cars being off by an inch or so...
 
i dont know i think he said only the driverside rear rubs, it doesnt make sense unless the air ride isnt fixed and still leaking which would explain why it rubs, rich why are you still shutting the air ride switch off if you fixed the leak? those tires should never even come close to going up in the wheel well.
 
I have the same wheels as Jamie and they rub on both sides. Car at normal ride height and they sometimes rub on dips. When over 60mph they rub much more often. Soft sping rate and super soft shocks allow for much more suspension travel then high rate coils and stiffer shocks offer.


That being said, Jamies car is low enough in the pics that it should rub if his suspension traveled more then 1.5" in the rear. So you (Jamie) drive slow or have very smooth roads OR there is a slight roll and you just never noticed it.
Is the plastic ear still on the upper part of the rear bumper where it screws to the fender? Thats the worst spot for rubbing and I have had to cut it off before.
 
See this is how low mine goes before it starts to rub bad. The area circled in red is where the plastic ear used to come off the bumper. I think Nolan cut them off before I got the car.

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so um whats that thing do. is that a professional version of the baseball bat on the tire gimmick ? in other words to kinda flare out the wheel well a little bit? or am i just super high right now
 
Trippen Out said:
so um whats that thing do. is that a professional version of the baseball bat on the tire gimmick ? in other words to kinda flare out the wheel well a little bit? or am i just super high right now
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Yes. No. Yes.
 
I shaved the fenderwells with an angle grinder nice & slowly until nothing was touching anymore, sanded to smooth out the roughness & applied Rustoleum to the bare metal. It worked well for a 40 minute job, not show quality well but you can't tell unless you're 3 inches away from it.
 
bill you can ask diesel dan today at my shop my fenders are not rolled, and driving slow in florida will get you killed. we have our share of dips and bumps i think you guys have other issues cuz i dont ever rub ever.
 
Jamie,

I had 36mm cobraR wheels on my old 95. NEVER had an issue with rubbing. My 98 with the same wheels would rub on a hard dip in the road.

You need to realize there is more than wheel offset to take into account.

Manufacturing tolerances for one, (if the spot welder on the 1/4 panels was on his a-game or not.)

Positioning of the subframe assembly under the car

Tire size differences between manufacturers.

Suspension type (air/coils),

Wear of the rear shock absorbers.

If you do the math properly and there are literally thousands of potential combos to work through.

Mike
 
I saw with my own eyes last night, Jamie's rear quarters are not rolled on either side. We had this same conversation about rubbing and I looked with my own eyes. If Jamie's car is a manufactured bastard and for some reason can allow for him to run the wider wheel/tire combo then good for him, tough :q:q:q:q for the rest of you.
 
I'm not really sure what the attitude is for but ok?


I'm not saying he is lying, My old 94 was running 275-40/18's on 24MM offset wheels. I had the rear suspension setup to keep the tires from rubbing. Nothing hard to do, just homework.

That being said, *I* feel that the SN95/New Edge offset looks 100X better than the wheels being sucked in past the body line. As such I have to roll 1/4panel lips.


Mike
 
94m5 said:
Jamie,

I had 36mm cobraR wheels on my old 95. NEVER had an issue with rubbing. My 98 with the same wheels would rub on a hard dip in the road.

You need to realize there is more than wheel offset to take into account.

Manufacturing tolerances for one, (if the spot welder on the 1/4 panels was on his a-game or not.)

Positioning of the subframe assembly under the car

Tire size differences between manufacturers.

Suspension type (air/coils),

Wear of the rear shock absorbers.

If you do the math properly and there are literally thousands of potential combos to work through.

Mike
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Exactly, I wouldn't be surprised one bit if one car would rub and one would not with the same tire, rim combo.
I myself wouldn't roll , just cut it like cadillackman.

I don't understand the whole fear of just trimming the lip.
Or trim and give it a slight roll to please the eye up close.
 
but what i am saying about rich's car, my great 8, he has my old wheels, he has air ride still, what kind of driving could he be doing to get the tires to rub, this is his car...
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i dont see how those could rub unless this thing was driven on a motorcross track i dont, its a useless argument! i dont care who's tires rub roll your fenders or cut them, i am not saying no one can do that, if you have to, you have to but i dont get how one set of wheels can come off one mark VIII and go onto another one, and all the sudden they get shredded up on the 2nd mark but not the first one!
 
BAD97LSC said:
i dont see how those could rub unless this thing was driven on a motorcross track i dont, its a useless argument! i dont care who's tires rub roll your fenders or cut them, i am not saying no one can do that, if you have to, you have to but i dont get how one set of wheels can come off one mark VIII and go onto another one, and all the sudden they get shredded up on the 2nd mark but not the first one!
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I don't see how they would rub, its sitting too high.
But if he lowers it, maybe?

Easy to tell, blow all the air out of the system and see if they touch.

Remember, you have nice tight springs, if he has air ride and maybe some weak shocks, his is going to float more then your car with the badass springs.
It could make a difference.

I would blow the air out, see if and were it was touching, cut it.
But that's me.

Come on Chris...the tease is over post them dam pics!!!

OBTW I saw them already

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Jamie, the roads by you are worse than the ones by my house. I still have the original shocks. The passengers side has oil leaking out of it. Elliot ordered me new shocks that are backordered. I think if I install the new shocks the problem would be eliminated. However, since my Son borrowed the car and brought it back with a scuff in the rear bumper, I don't want to look at it. I washed it, turned on the dehumidifier, and put it in the garage. Until I fix the bumper and the shocks, I will proudly drive the '93 or my wifes Mustang GT vert. Hey Dan I love the Jamie taking a Derrick comment. LMAO!!
 
94m5 said:
I'm not really sure what the attitude is for but ok?
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I apoligize for the attitude. Just one of those topics that seem like everyone is saying the same thing, but obviously Jamie didn't have any problems with the same wheels.
 
Everybody needs to pull their panties out of their cracks.

Jamie, I was merly making a suggestion. Not calling you a liar or anything like that. My first suggestion was that you have higher rate springs. That appears to be the reason yours does not rub. Your Mark must ride quite firm. On the other hand it prolly feels really nice in the corners. :)


Anywho, after looking at where mine is rubbing I think I may just try to cut back a portion of the fender lip to the edge of the pinch welds.
 
It's the hitch..... <G>

I had to roll mine to keep from hitting the tire..

275's on a 9" wheel, SN offset.
 
oh i wont disagree my car rides real firm, i love that about my car, but at the same time my rear is alot lower all the time then most marks, rich's car isnt lowered in the rear, just sensor lowered in the front. oh well! i am sure new rear shocks will help rich specially if they are leaky.
 
kustomizingkid said:
Chris post a pic of the wheels... I want something better than a damn cell pic.
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+2

BAD97LSC said:
ok then explain to me why my old speedstars, which are exatly the same to my black ones in every way, are rubbing on my great 8's 98 mark, with stock air ride and its an inch and a half higher than my car in the rear?
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kustomizingkid said:
Are they rubbing on both side or just one?

If its just one then I would say his car is just a little off center... I've heard of cars being off by an inch or so...
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94m5 said:
Jamie,

Positioning of the subframe assembly under the car
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id say the subframes weren't centered, my driver rear 245/45r18 rubs the lip when dropped and my pass side has plenty of room. before i had a body guy i worked with try to roll my quarter panel :rolleyes: it would rub over bumps. ive seen nowhere as many markviii as jamie and how have i noticed this, it seems like most are shifted to the driverside a half inch or so. i would try to shift it over but no longer having an alignment rack to my disposal sucks
 
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