lincoln_lurker
that dude from the thing
holy chriziest! glad you are alright, sucks about the mark but they can be replaced
Laser, you don't know misery!
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rayner601
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That's why this whole thread needs to be edited and or deleted.....I am just glad you and your son are ok though. If you need anything, let me know
ford nut
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Fire investigators will know how it happened, hell I bet they have filed a full report by now.
This thread will mean nothing.
I would guess gas vapors got trapped then ignited somehow.
Crazy.
Nolimit, did you smell any fumes on your last drive?
richduty455
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wow, that is absolutely terrible!!!!! My stomach dropped when I saw the pics.....sorry to hear that happened.
My guess.. he had the garage door open that was allowing fumes to rise and harmlessy exit the garage.
he said this happened AS he was lowering the garage door...
Which leads to my speculation that he HAD a leak, but the fumes were getting evacuated...once he started lowering the door the fumes were trapped..
As the door lowered the fumes got low enough to be ignited from that space heater seen in the picture.
/speculation
You watch a lot of CSI?
no I hate TV...lolz
Haha it was just a joke but that was good, just like I see on TV.
Its funny you say that because my speculation was near identical except I figured it was a spark from the garage door motor ignighting the fumes.
Stangman
Project car a.d.d.
OMG!!!I just got home and looked at the pictures... I think I'm gonna have nightmares now...
First thing I did when i got my car back home was unplug the harness that Ford puts the recal harness on.. I dont want spontaneous combustion like that... Makes me wanna go whisper nice things to my fuel rails...
Sorry about the tough luck dude.. looks like we've had our fair share of it lately
Oh and you both forgot to mention how the flames got inside the car... He must have had the heater on, sucking in the fumes.
Can you tell where the blast started by looking at it?
First thing I did when i got my car back home was unplug the harness that Ford puts the recal harness on.. I dont want spontaneous combustion like that... Makes me wanna go whisper nice things to my fuel rails...
Sorry about the tough luck dude.. looks like we've had our fair share of it lately
Oh and you both forgot to mention how the flames got inside the car... He must have had the heater on, sucking in the fumes.
Can you tell where the blast started by looking at it?
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Dude, one thing I was thinking about while I was on the road today. Try to do what you need to do to that car ASAP & get it out of your house!
#1. You don't want them investigating your car.
#2. Psychologically it sucks to see that car parked at your house like that. That was your baby!!!
Part it out ASAP, throw the parts in your garage (what's left of it) & junk it! WOW that sounded horrible, well, there's no other way to say it, call them to have them pick it up & take it. Kinda sucks just having to look at it.
#1. You don't want them investigating your car.
#2. Psychologically it sucks to see that car parked at your house like that. That was your baby!!!
Part it out ASAP, throw the parts in your garage (what's left of it) & junk it! WOW that sounded horrible, well, there's no other way to say it, call them to have them pick it up & take it. Kinda sucks just having to look at it.
Staffamerica74
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Wow dude... thats horrible but atleast you are ok.
k9t8m
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Holy crap that really sucks. Im glad you are okay.
Icarus
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Dayym, I'm glad you and your family are good and hope your leg heals up fast.
NoLimit95
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I appreciate all of you and the comments and I'm fine, just sore from all of it, that's all.
As for the statement made to the investigator, I didn't lie about what happened. I told him what I done and he said (after looking at the fuel rail) that it appeared to be on like it should have been.He said accidents happen and he could tell that I never asked for this to happen and since the house isn't mine, he knew I wasn't trying to get anything out of the deal.
Ok, now, as for the door and fuel theory. The kerosene heater had nothing to do with anything. I had just put the 4 injectors in and got the rail pressed back down and bolted like it should have been or so I thought. All 4 injectors were plugged in like they should have been.
The door was shut and the car was not running. I pressed my button on my visor and opened it. My hood was already shut and I was going for a test drive. I had my car doors shut and my windows were up all the way and I was not smoking. Ok, I tried to start the car for the first time after fuel rail had been put back in place and bolted down. It would not start. I tried again and it didn't start. I tried again and then it started for a second and died out again. Now my thought at this time was that the fuel rail needed to build it's pressure back and was almost there enough to keep it running.
I cranked it again and it did start this time but had a very rough idle that I was not used to, at all. I pressed the gas down enough to around 2000 rpm or a little less in hopes that the idle would smooth out. It would not smooth out. I let off the gas and it idled down low again but it was still shaking and not right. I wasn't going to continue for it to run like this so I decided to shut the door and turn the car off.
I pressed the door button and it started coming down. The door got down far enough for the windows to show themselves to the outside but the bottom of it was still right at trunk level and then I reached to turn the car off. Before I could get it off, the explosion happened. It was big and it was loud. People on my street that I had never seen before came running to my house with flashlights and asking if I was OK. Some people were nearly 8 to 10 houses away and still heard it.
I'm not going to part the car because I have found another black on black Gen 1 but waiting on a call back on it. It's 5 hours away from me and is a 95 model. Out of three black on blacks, I can make the 95 very nice with all the black parts I have. Yes, it does bother me setting right there in the driveway looking like it's been hit by a train but the insurance adjuster is coming to check things out tomorrow. He told me they would take care of it.
If this guy calls me tonight or tomorrow that has the 95, I'll most likely go ond down and pick it up. I will keep you all informed.
As for the statement made to the investigator, I didn't lie about what happened. I told him what I done and he said (after looking at the fuel rail) that it appeared to be on like it should have been.He said accidents happen and he could tell that I never asked for this to happen and since the house isn't mine, he knew I wasn't trying to get anything out of the deal.
Ok, now, as for the door and fuel theory. The kerosene heater had nothing to do with anything. I had just put the 4 injectors in and got the rail pressed back down and bolted like it should have been or so I thought. All 4 injectors were plugged in like they should have been.
The door was shut and the car was not running. I pressed my button on my visor and opened it. My hood was already shut and I was going for a test drive. I had my car doors shut and my windows were up all the way and I was not smoking. Ok, I tried to start the car for the first time after fuel rail had been put back in place and bolted down. It would not start. I tried again and it didn't start. I tried again and then it started for a second and died out again. Now my thought at this time was that the fuel rail needed to build it's pressure back and was almost there enough to keep it running.
I cranked it again and it did start this time but had a very rough idle that I was not used to, at all. I pressed the gas down enough to around 2000 rpm or a little less in hopes that the idle would smooth out. It would not smooth out. I let off the gas and it idled down low again but it was still shaking and not right. I wasn't going to continue for it to run like this so I decided to shut the door and turn the car off.
I pressed the door button and it started coming down. The door got down far enough for the windows to show themselves to the outside but the bottom of it was still right at trunk level and then I reached to turn the car off. Before I could get it off, the explosion happened. It was big and it was loud. People on my street that I had never seen before came running to my house with flashlights and asking if I was OK. Some people were nearly 8 to 10 houses away and still heard it.
I'm not going to part the car because I have found another black on black Gen 1 but waiting on a call back on it. It's 5 hours away from me and is a 95 model. Out of three black on blacks, I can make the 95 very nice with all the black parts I have. Yes, it does bother me setting right there in the driveway looking like it's been hit by a train but the insurance adjuster is coming to check things out tomorrow. He told me they would take care of it.
If this guy calls me tonight or tomorrow that has the 95, I'll most likely go ond down and pick it up. I will keep you all informed.
driller
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Wow! 
chicken
SHEOOOOOOOOT
damn man that sux, looked good even though it was a gen 1 lol j/k, good luck on the 95 your lookin at
wtf is going on here good marks are dropping like flys, runs outside to check, pheww mines still ok
wtf is going on here good marks are dropping like flys, runs outside to check, pheww mines still ok
The investigator is not who you have to worry about. The insurance company for the landlord (who has an investigator of their own) is going to get the report if you admitted fault and is going to come after you for the damages after they pay to repair the property. Do you think they are going to not come after you when they can sue you for negligence? You never ever ever admit that something was your fault in an accident of any kind including ones like this.
billcu
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That's way too sad. Accidents are bad enough, but this..
Glad to hear everyone's OK.
Glad to hear everyone's OK.
mespock
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I'm just going to say Glad you are OK ... there have been enough Damn ... Holy $hits and everything else ...
UltimateSVT
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Good luck man, if it's the car you like, I hope you get it, should feel great that it's black/black too!
insurance pays out because accidents happen , you didnt do it on purpose there is no law that says you cant work on your own car or fuel system and an accident is an accident if we didnt have accidents we wouldnt need insurance.
p.s. stupidity is the highest cause of an accident. insurance covers stupid. im not saying your stupid by the way. my brother in law neighbors heater went out in his house so he decided to burn cardboard in his living room to stay warm, insurance paid out for his stupidity because there was no intent, just lack of smarts
p.s. stupidity is the highest cause of an accident. insurance covers stupid. im not saying your stupid by the way. my brother in law neighbors heater went out in his house so he decided to burn cardboard in his living room to stay warm, insurance paid out for his stupidity because there was no intent, just lack of smarts
NoLimit95
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All I can say is that as long as I'm alive after that, they can sue all they want. They aren't going to get much, I can betchya that one. A garage is a garage and in my lease it never stated that we were not allowed to work on a cars in the garage. Putting in 4 injectors and bolting them down, plugging them in and starting the car and waiting for it to explode with me in it isn't negligence. It was an accident and they do happen.
If I had full coverage on the car and renters insurance, then yes, I could see where they would take this investigation further but I lost my car and everything I own in the garage which was a lot more than some sheet rock that burned and some cleanup that needs to be done. I didn't have nothing more than liability on that car which is all I'm allowed to have. I just don't really see what they can do to me for working on my car and having an accident. If I had it all to do over again, I would rather have my car still setting in the garage with a stalling issue.
If they sue me, they sue me. All they can get out of me is jail time. I highly doubt it's going to go that far.
The owner of the house came to look at what happened and he wasn't mad and all he could really say is that he was glad that I was able to be there to talk to him. He saw the car and he couldn't believe that I got out with a couple of minor burns and a cut.
Yeah, if you still have that harness connected after being notified of the recall, you should really let them disconnect it because it will be on file that you did comply. I took mine in and let them disconnect it but that's it. The shop manager told me I was no longer in any fire hazard.
Me and fuel rails will never be friendly with each other again.
I learned my lesson about messing with injectors. You can check your work 3 times like I did but you still don't know that it's right. I can say that if it stumbles after being cranked. STOP! and shut it off.How a flame came bursting into the car is beyond me. This was a very forceful explosion. Windows in the garage door were blown all the way out to the street and the door was 1/2 way down. There aren't big chunks of glass near the door, it's all small pieces. It was like something you would see in a movie. Now I know the first thoughts of a person involved with a car bombing. Those first thoughts aren't good and they last for a second or two. The thoughts during an escape aren't good either.
The blast and what actually started it, I don't know. The hood was down and latched. While the car was running rough, my intake was filling on the top side with gas. I suppose it only holds so much and then it floods over somewhere. Car was setting level, air ride was on but something sparked the gas. What it was, I'll never know.
They can investigate my car if they want. I know I had that fuel rail bolted back down tight. I know all 4 injectors were seated down into the intake all the way. I can't move the car anywhere and I was told that by the fire investigator. He said to leave it as is but... the car was in the garage and before the fire dept left, they moved it outside. I'm gonna part it but it's going to be parted into another Mark. The dash is really the only bad interior part.
That's way too sad. Accidents are bad enough, but this..
Glad to hear everyone's OK.
Thanks Bill. The sadness is just now starting to set in. Thoughts run through my mind of everything that I done to it. All the hours I spent on that car, doing things myself. Everything that was ever done to that car, was done by me, except for the cruise deactivation.
lol, I promise I was the first one to say HOLY $HIT when it blew. Luckily, yes, I'm fine and everyone else in the house were not hurt in any way. We were even lucky enough to be able to go back in the house within 45 min and go to sleep if we wanted to.
Good luck man, if it's the car you like, I hope you get it, should feel great that it's black/black too!
Pic below is the one I found. I'm still waiting for the owner to call me back on it.
Should have been done 2 years ago, even though that's not what caused my fire, I would never chance one over a simple disconnection of a harness.
My thoughts exactly. I'll say I'm stupid lol. Me and injectors will never mess with each other again. I just feel good to be alive and I feel good that I told the truth about what happened. If I am sued, then so be it. Right now, I could care less. All I have for them to take in my name is that POS in the driveway. They can have it if it makes them feel better. Not saying that I don't have anything, it's just that the car is the only thing in my name.
I have my son and luckily he didn't come near the door that leads into the house. They can't take him away from me.
My main thought right now is that I'm glad that I didn't have anyone setting in the garage. I had 2 chairs out there and a heater in front of them. My son would sometimes come out and set in the chairs but not very often. If I was setting on one and he looked out the door, he would come out and set in the other and of course, ask questions. There have been times when I have started the car and he would come to the door that goes into the house from the garage and try to find out where I was going. I'm glad that he didn't. He was all the way at the other end of the house in my room watching tv and he told me he heard the BOOM. He said the whole house shook.
So much could have happened as far as peoples lives, including my own but all it comes down to is some sheetrock, some carpet that (we were promised a year ago anyway) and a good kitchen floor cleaning or new one would make me happy. Other than that, everything in the garage and my car is my loss and all of can be replaced. I have a girlfriend of 25 that comes over a lot and she sometimes sets in one of the chairs. She's not the type to go on a test drive with me lol. I mean, that explosion could have killed and injured up to 4 or 5 people but it didn't. That's all I think about.
Anyone setting in a chair would have died most likely. If my son had come to the door, he would have suffered badly or even died. If I had been outside the car when that happened, I most likely would have raised the hood with it running like that and put my face down near the intake looking for leaks and that would have been instant death. So much more could have happened.
I thought the same thing and then the next night, mine exploded. Maybe mine was pissed off at me about something, idk. I gave it a good life in the garage that I kept warm most of the time. I didn't abuse it, hell I didn't even get to put 20K on it in nearly 5 years. That's just how much I garaged it.
Thanks and everyone is fine and the leg is sore. people say that it needs 3 or 4 stitches but I'm trying to just let it dry out now and heal on it's own. I'm keeping it cleaned out or well, someone is doing for me
The other leg that was burned a little is fine.
All good Chris and thanks!!