Quick transmission question.

Upstairs Chris

Upstairs Chris

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Does your LS have a bit more resistance going in and out of reverse than any other gear. Backing up and going from park to reverse almost always seems to resist a bit more than any of the other gears. Occasionally, for instance when I am parked facing downhill it seems, it won't do it, but that is very seldom.

Just wanting to know if normal, okayish, or impending doom.
 
Before going to park and shutting off the engine:

D5/R --> N --> Parking brake --> P

No more resistance.
 
Is neutral necessary? I usually always put the parking brake on in gear.
 
Seems to unload the drivetrain. I haven't had an issue since adapting that whole procedure.
 
Procedure that has worked for me.

Apply and hold main brake.
Shift to park
Apply parking brake.
Release main brake only after parking brake is fully applied.

I think that is not quite as good as the one going to neutral, but it has be good enough for me.
 
As long as others on here have noticed the same thing, I feel better.


It you guys would have been like, nope no resistance at all, I'd be a bit worried.
 
When you shift the tranny into park you are actually sliding what looks like a square tooth on an arm into a gear. The resistance you are feeling is the force necessary to pull this tooth out of the parking gear with the rolling weight of the car against it. It will be worse when the car is on an incline. This is why you have a parking brake and should use it. In addition to making your car shift smoothly, it will also not ruin the image when everyone hears something that sounds like a gun going off when you shift out of park.

And here's a sketch of the parking break pawl and parking gear for reference:
http://www.agcoauto.com/content/images/transmission/how_does_park_work.jpg


The entire rolling weight of the vehicle is being supported by the one pin that holds the pawl in place. That's why you should always completely stop and try to avoid slamming the car into park. You can actually bend the pin or pawl or crack the case.

I usually come to a stop, shift to neutral, hit parking brake, then shift to park. Since I have a gen2 the parking brake lets up as soon as I shift out of park when leaving. It's nice that way.
 
Upstairs Chris said:
As long as others on here have noticed the same thing, I feel better.


It you guys would have been like, nope no resistance at all, I'd be a bit worried.
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Well, I've never had this in the LS, but I always use the parking brake. I have had the experience in other cars. It's something you can get with any automatic if you don't use the parking brake. I remember one relative that parked on a sloped driveway and couldn't shift back out of park. We have to push the car forward slightly while she shifted out of park.
 
joegr said:
Well, I've never had this in the LS, but I always use the parking brake. I have had the experience in other cars. It's something you can get with any automatic if you don't use the parking brake. I remember one relative that parked on a sloped driveway and couldn't shift back out of park. We have to push the car forward slightly while she shifted out of park.
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Well I use the parking brake religiously. Mostly because it is so damn easy, but who knows about the previous owner. I mean, not to be judgemental but if you aren't concerned with keeping up with payments then you most likely give no ****s about the parking brake.
 
Upstairs Chris said:
Well I use the parking brake religiously. Mostly because it is so damn easy, but who knows about the previous owner. I mean, not to be judgemental but if you aren't concerned with keeping up with payments then you most likely give no ****s about the parking brake.
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I've found that most people do not use the parking brake. I'd say that it is more likely that they didn't than they did.
All this said, you may want to check the linkage to see if there is binding anywhere external to the transmission.
 
I use the method m4rk posted above, it makes things way smoother.

Dat feel when you see someone park at an incline, then release the foot brake and the car slams against the parking pin... *cringe*
 
For what it's worth. My car shifted in and out of park really hard. MUCH harder out of Park. How I parked the car had little to no effect.

However, I replaced my shifter with a SST shifter recently and now it shifts completely smooth into and out of. So, maybe it was just my particular shifter that was acting funny. Something else to consider anyways.
 
Replaced it with an SST shifter. I don't quite understand. To my knowledge the manual mode of selecting the gears is called SST. I have that, so I should have "that" shifter.

You just confused the piss out of me.
 
Upstairs Chris said:
Replaced it with an SST shifter. I don't quite understand. To my knowledge the manual mode of selecting the gears is called SST. I have that, so I should have "that" shifter.

You just confused the piss out of me.
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Non-sports have a non-SST shifter. So does the '02 Premium.
 
Upstairs Chris said:
Replaced it with an SST shifter. I don't quite understand. To my knowledge the manual mode of selecting the gears is called SST. I have that, so I should have "that" shifter.

You just confused the piss out of me.
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What LS4me said.

I have an 02 premium. I replaced it with an SST shifter because I wanted to....and it just happened to also solve my problem of the hard shift into and out of reverse.

Whether or not it was the sport or sst shifter I put in was beside the point here....the point was I replaced my shifter and it fixed the problem.
 
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