nice find

[95mark8newyork]

looks to be in nice shape, but i think he is confused because i don't see anything that makes it an LSC.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Linc...5357839?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3a6f4c0b8f

 

[keVIIIn]

Nice, but I don't see anything that makes it $6 grand either.

 

[k9t8m]

I offered $4k for it and he said he would take $4300. Useful info if someone is interested.

 

[NetKeym]

It's not an LSC, all LSC vehicles have vin M92, that car is an M91 which is the standard Mark VIII, NOT an LSC.

Wait, I'm wrong.

I know that's incorrect information because my 1995 Mark VIII LSC that is sitting in the driveway is an M91.

So, sorry to post incorrect info that I got off the web :rollseyes:

Also, the only difference between the VIN on that car and the VIN on my LSC (besides the last 6 digits) is the 9th digit is a 2 on my car and a 7 on the one for sale. I have no idea what that means.

 

[chris2523]

i think all 1st gens have a vin that says LSC. or something. its weird.

 

[UltimateSVT]

Nice car, nice mileage, price way to steep. Got my 97 w/63,800m on it for $3,300.00. I wouldn't pay more than that price for the car.

 

[NoLimit95]

All of them are referred to as LSC's because they are all (Luxury Sport Coupe) but some are base and some are LSC without chrome trim. State Farm has mine down as an LSC but it's really not what we call an LSC. All of us on here know that...

 

[NetKeym]

All of them are referred to as LSC's because they are all (Luxury Sport Coupe) but some are base and some are LSC without chrome trim. State Farm has mine down as an LSC but it's really not what we call an LSC. All of us on here know that...

I don't believe that is accurate at all. The LSC's that began as an option in 1995 had perforated leather seats, LSC badges, true dual exhaust, and slightly lower gear ratio in the rear end (3.27 vs. 3.07). They also had different shocks from the factory and body-colored moldings that didn't exist on non-LSC models.

All "standard" Mark VIII's have none of those options described above. Look on the rear right of the bumper. If it's an LSC, it says (you guessed it) LSC, if it isn't it just says Lincoln.

Standard Mark VIII:

LSC Mark VIII:

Also, I found out the different 9th digit I listed above is just a "check digit".

 

[NoLimit95]

I don't believe that is accurate at all. The LSC's that began as an option in 1995 had perforated leather seats, LSC badges, true dual exhaust, and slightly lower gear ratio in the rear end (3.27 vs. 3.07). They also had different shocks from the factory and body-colored moldings that didn't exist on non-LSC models.

All "standard" Mark VIII's have none of those options described above. Look on the rear right of the bumper. If it's an LSC, it says (you guessed it) LSC, if it isn't it just says Lincoln.

Standard Mark VIII:

LSC Mark VIII:

Also, I found out the different 9th digit I listed above is just a "check digit".

I don't have to look for an LSC badge. The car itself is still a Luxury Sport Coupe (LSC) I also know about gearing ratios being different but as far as most insurance companies are concerned, it's still an LSC. The real true LSC is just a package deal. What's different from my seats than the LSC seats from a 95 and btw, the seats shown in my sig pic are from a 94. No, they don't have little pin holes but I would prefer they didn't. Most of us on here know what I'm saying.

 

[keVIIIn]

I don't believe that is accurate at all. The LSC's that began as an option in 1995 had perforated leather seats, LSC badges, true dual exhaust, and slightly lower gear ratio in the rear end (3.27 vs. 3.07). They also had different shocks from the factory and body-colored moldings that didn't exist on non-LSC models.

All "standard" Mark VIII's have none of those options described above. Look on the rear right of the bumper. If it's an LSC, it says (you guessed it) LSC, if it isn't it just says Lincoln.

Standard Mark VIII:

LSC Mark VIII:

Also, I found out the different 9th digit I listed above is just a "check digit".

No limit is right, 93-95s were all listed as LSCs, the title on my 95 lists it as an "LSC" as well as the original window sticker that I have, eventhough it clearly is not. It is just what they classified the car as; a luxury sport coupe, not necessarily the LSC model. Wasn't until 96 that they stopped calling all marks LSCs.

 

[BAD97LSC]

No limit is right, 93-95s were all listed as LSCs, the title on my 95 lists it as an "LSC" as well as the original window sticker that I have, eventhough it clearly is not. It is just what they classified the car as; a luxury sport coupe, not necessarily the LSC model. Wasn't until 96 that they stopped calling all marks LSCs.

correct, the 93-95 were mark VIII luxury sport coupes, every one of them was marked this way on the title, but then lincoln decided to make an " LSC package " and the LSC was born, but all first gens were titled as lsc's

 

[KStromberg]

Nice, but I don't see anything that makes it $6 grand either.

Posts like this repeatedly bring me to the realization that I paid waaaay too much for mine. I bought my 98 in 2007 with 72K miles and paid $7000+ TTL.

 

[fastmark1993]

I don't believe that is accurate at all. The LSC's that began as an option in 1995 had perforated leather seats, LSC badges, true dual exhaust, and slightly lower gear ratio in the rear end (3.27 vs. 3.07). They also had different shocks from the factory and body-colored moldings that didn't exist on non-LSC models.

All "standard" Mark VIII's have none of those options described above. Look on the rear right of the bumper. If it's an LSC, it says (you guessed it) LSC, if it isn't it just says Lincoln.

Standard Mark VIII:

LSC Mark VIII:

Also, I found out the different 9th digit I listed above is just a "check digit".

haha no limit is a vet here I wouldn't try to school him.

 

[NetKeym]

So what y'all are saying is the insurance companies get to put the screws to ANYBODY driving a 93-95 Mark VIII? Which, btw, makes total sense.....

And I'm definitely not trying to school anybody, believe whatever y'all want. I didn't realize he just meant what the insurance companies define them as. The ones I've seen are different and Lincoln marketed them as such. We were just talking about two different things. Or Lincoln marketed all 93-94 as LSC's - whatever. The one we're talking about is a 95.

I just know my 95 is different then a friend of mine's 95 which isn't an LSC.

EDIT: I think I understand what ya'll are saying. Lincoln split off a different Mark VIII "model" in order to charge more - that would make sense too!

 

[keVIIIn]

So what y'all are saying is the insurance companies get to put the screws to ANYBODY driving a 93-95 Mark VIII? Which, btw, makes total sense.....

And I'm definitely not trying to school anybody, believe whatever y'all want. I didn't realize he just meant what the insurance companies define them as. The ones I've seen are different and Lincoln marketed them as such. We were just talking about two different things. Or Lincoln marketed all 93-94 as LSC's - whatever. The one we're talking about is a 95.

I just know my 95 is different then a friend of mine's 95 which isn't an LSC.

EDIT: I think I understand what ya'll are saying. Lincoln split off a different Mark VIII "model" in order to charge more - that would make sense too!

Well I don't believe the insurance rates changed at all from the LSC to the base..just strictly a classification for the car, at least my rates were the same when i priced out a few marks eight years ago before i bought my thunderbird, I got insurance quotes for 2 bases and 2 LSCs and they were the same price.

 

[NetKeym]

Well I don't believe the insurance rates changed at all from the LSC to the base..just strictly a classification for the car, at least my rates were the same when i priced out a few marks eight years ago before i bought my thunderbird, I got insurance quotes for 2 bases and 2 LSCs and they were the same price.

Ok. I'm just a terrible skeptic when it comes to insurance companies. I'm 45 years old and have had my share of bad experiences with them. My father, mother, grandmother, grandfather, and wife have all died with life insurance policies of which NOT ONE PAID for one reason or another. And all these policies were like 5k - 10k which isn't enough money for any lawyer to really go after them. Anyways, that's why I'm so bitter about those companies. The insurance companies that were the insurers were Globe Life, Garden State Life, and Combined Life. All liars and thieves.

As far as these cars go, logically you would think they all would just charge the same like you said, so maybe most do. I think when it comes to their definitions, maybe if it just has a v8, it's a higher risk - they don't go into much detail. I will have to say this - I have always had good luck with auto insurance from Progressive and Hartford while family & friends have had good luck with State Farm.

 

[keVIIIn]

Ok. I'm just a terrible skeptic when it comes to insurance companies. I'm 45 years old and have had my share of bad experiences with them. My father, mother, grandmother, grandfather, and wife have all died with life insurance policies of which NOT ONE PAID for one reason or another. And all these policies were like 5k - 10k which isn't enough money for any lawyer to really go after them. Anyways, that's why I'm so bitter about those companies. The insurance companies that were the insurers were Globe Life, Garden State Life, and Combined Life. All liars and thieves.

As far as these cars go, logically you would think they all would just charge the same like you said, so maybe most do. I think when it comes to their definitions, maybe if it just has a v8, it's a higher risk - they don't go into much detail. I will have to say this - I have always had good luck with auto insurance from Progressive and Hartford while family & friends have had good luck with State Farm.

I've actually had good luck with my insurance company..knock on wood, I had an 04 impala ls before my mark that had 70k miles on it..I ended up totaling it in a minor accident. The car had been in 2 prior accidents and had electrical issues out the a$$ with the abs sensors and pass lock problems..I was hoping it was totaled so I wouldn't have to have it repaired for a 3rd time and have to deal with all the elecrical gremlins..and thank god it was because state farm gave me $11k for it. I would have NEVER gotten that much for it had i sold it outright or traded it in at a dealer..got lucky for sure.

 

[NoLimit95]

Also, not all states will title a 93-95 as an LSC. That is a state preference and as far as insurance companies go, such as mine which is State Farm, they still listed the car as an LSC, simply because it is just that. It's a Luxury Sport Coupe. I have three titles right now and all are Alabama titles for a 93, 94, and my current 95 and neither of them have the abbreviations that list either of the three as an LSC.

Now, the only thing I learned from this thread so far is that the LSC package came with different rear shocks... I have never studied up on the shock department but I honestly don't think there were any differences. Not enough to really say they were any better. If anything, the 93's came with the better shock with the anti dive capability and those of you that hear the clicking sound in your 93 and early manufactured 94's, that's what you're hearing but apparently, they weren't so good either or they would have continued the installation of them up until 98 but instead, they pulled this particular shock during the 94 production year. I know this because my black on black 94 had them and the black on black 93 had them. I changed the shocks in my 94 and disconnected the connectors for the anti dive and noticed zero difference with the front end wanting to dive down when braking hard.

Anyway, I wasn't trying to start an argument about what is an LSC and isn't because I know the differences between the two but I was simply saying that all first gens were considered to be an LSC with some institutions and this still goes on till this very day with some local dealers that are selling base Mark VIII's. Some of them will still call it an LSC when really, it doesn't have the LSC package. It's not something they are doing on purpose to make money. It's like I said earlier, they go by the way it's titled and again, that is a state preference as to how they title the car. All the dealer knows is that they have a Mark VIII and if titled as an LSC, they'll call it that. "We" as in all of us on here know the difference. I would still like to know what made the LSC's shocks any better than what came on the base models.