LsUnV2
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thoughts...
mark viii cool car but not collectible?????
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chicken
SHEOOOOOOOOT
but all those ebay ads say "rare"
kustomizingkid
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My car is in denial...
chicken
SHEOOOOOOOOT
but they wouldn't lie!
LsUnV2
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my brother always says "why would they lie"? lol hes been scammed so many times.. i brought this up because of the for sale thread thats become so popular the last few days.. def not a collectible IMO but if i love a particular car i still dont think id pay above KBB no matter how clean it is.. for me it comes down to being smart.. dont buy anything for more than its worth .. its just stupid
BAD97LSC
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it will never be a collectible, none will make it that long!!!!!!!!!!!!
catmech
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240sx cool car will never be a collectable. its not about what a car will be worth its about the passion.
96hotrodlincoln
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Not if you have your way with them they won't!
auto doug
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I'd like to think my (SWB) short wheel base Mark VIII might be collectable someday? It is one of a kinda, based off of my five SWB Thunderbird Super Coupes I built back in the early 90's, after Ford froze the project. The orgianal concept was a Ford Motor Company prototype that got the ax after one unit was built, but Motor Trend magazine loved it! so in a way it has some link to a Ford prototype and someone might find that collectible.
Hey look at what people said about the early Falcons back in the 70's (your basic Escort) of the day! Now I have a 63 Falcon in for a high dollar restoration! and there are all kindas of Falcon collectors.
But I really don't think the Escort has a chance.
My next SWB project might even be a bit more of a collectable far down the road, I plan on building a true Hot Rod Lincoln! 93 or 94 Mark VIII stripped of all creature comforts, maybe leave power windows, carpet ?, (going for sporty and light weight), built 351 or FE, fuel injected??, 5 speed 9 inch rear, 17 inch torque thrust wheels frt and 18 x 10 rear, big brakes, 6 point cage, recaro seats? autometer guages, and Grabber blue color, with low gloss blk on center of cowl induction hood !
Hey look at what people said about the early Falcons back in the 70's (your basic Escort) of the day! Now I have a 63 Falcon in for a high dollar restoration! and there are all kindas of Falcon collectors.
But I really don't think the Escort has a chance.
My next SWB project might even be a bit more of a collectable far down the road, I plan on building a true Hot Rod Lincoln! 93 or 94 Mark VIII stripped of all creature comforts, maybe leave power windows, carpet ?, (going for sporty and light weight), built 351 or FE, fuel injected??, 5 speed 9 inch rear, 17 inch torque thrust wheels frt and 18 x 10 rear, big brakes, 6 point cage, recaro seats? autometer guages, and Grabber blue color, with low gloss blk on center of cowl induction hood !
Chadly
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The duct tape brings down the value some
kustomizingkid
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Damn that things is a trip to look at!
MediumD
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If you're getting rid of a Teksid 4v... you better be putting a big block in it's place. IMO, of course.
tacklebox
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Prolly one of the most "collectible" cars of its time. The 90s dont really have a mach 1 or any of the cars from the 60-70s for that matter. Maybe someday, but I think the collectible car thing died with the mustang fox body in 79. Although I do have a 79 mustang cobra, I'd call collectible. I'd consider the mark as one of the last "muscle" cars.
auto doug
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Here are a few of the 63 Falcon gettting media blasted, I pulled this one out of a Colorado salvage yard, been setting in since 73 (left for dead) The car I'm restoring is from Iowa and so rusty it is folding in half, and all the metal on the bottom side is so compamized, and there are no atf part avalible. so the best thing to do is rebody it with this one that was about to get crushed! although the floor had a few thin spots, the qrts were cut open and windshield frame cut off. The structural rails and touqre boxes are very solid ! i was very happy to find this one to aid in the restoration, mounted up in my new Roller Hoop makes it a brezze to clean up and make like new, I'm training this young high school student the basics of restoration work SANDING!
kustomizingkid
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Looks like fun!
I'm working on a Datsun 240z right now with a friend... we are smoothing the block out completely.... We are estimating 10-15 hours to complete it.
I'm working on a Datsun 240z right now with a friend... we are smoothing the block out completely.... We are estimating 10-15 hours to complete it.
Woof47
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Who decides what cars are collectables?
What is the criteria that makes a car a collectable?
Why do some cars become collectable faster than others?
I my opinion, the Mark VIII is already a collectable. It is a very unique vehicle that has relatively low production numbers. The older it gets, the more collectable it will become.
Think of some of the cars that are now considered collectable that were not favorites during the years they were produced: The Edsel, bullet nose Studebakers, the mid + late thirties Chrysler Airflow.
The list goes on.
Our Marks got a bad rep because of difficulties with the unique systems built into them. Which is why they are presently relatively cheap to buy.
As time goes on and the average car nut (both hot rodders and resto dudes) become more familiar with computerized vehicles and retrofitting the unique systems in our cars, they will become more desirable.
I ,for one, am glad that Marks are affordable and that I have had the opportunity to own a couple of them.
What is the criteria that makes a car a collectable?
Why do some cars become collectable faster than others?
I my opinion, the Mark VIII is already a collectable. It is a very unique vehicle that has relatively low production numbers. The older it gets, the more collectable it will become.
Think of some of the cars that are now considered collectable that were not favorites during the years they were produced: The Edsel, bullet nose Studebakers, the mid + late thirties Chrysler Airflow.
The list goes on.
Our Marks got a bad rep because of difficulties with the unique systems built into them. Which is why they are presently relatively cheap to buy.
As time goes on and the average car nut (both hot rodders and resto dudes) become more familiar with computerized vehicles and retrofitting the unique systems in our cars, they will become more desirable.
I ,for one, am glad that Marks are affordable and that I have had the opportunity to own a couple of them.
Woof47
Active LVC Member
Auto Doug; please don't take offense to what I am about to say. In no way do I mean to degrade your car or your efforts in it's reconstruction.
Auto Doug's Falcon is a prime example of a car that has become a collectable even though there was nothing special about when it was new. There were a few V-8 Falcons that were unique in there time, but most Falcons were built to be a small inexspensive family car. When these cars became 15-20 years old, no one thought about rebuilding or restoring these cars. Cars like these (also Valiants, Corvairs and all the other compacts) didn't even bring good money as scrap for the crusher.
Today, Falcons are collectables, along with so many other common cars of the past. Maybe not popular with the masses, but collectable none the less.
Our Marks will become more collectable as time goes on.
Good luck with your Falcon, Auto Doug. I'd like to see more pictures as it progresses and is finished.
Auto Doug's Falcon is a prime example of a car that has become a collectable even though there was nothing special about when it was new. There were a few V-8 Falcons that were unique in there time, but most Falcons were built to be a small inexspensive family car. When these cars became 15-20 years old, no one thought about rebuilding or restoring these cars. Cars like these (also Valiants, Corvairs and all the other compacts) didn't even bring good money as scrap for the crusher.
Today, Falcons are collectables, along with so many other common cars of the past. Maybe not popular with the masses, but collectable none the less.
Our Marks will become more collectable as time goes on.
Good luck with your Falcon, Auto Doug. I'd like to see more pictures as it progresses and is finished.
auto doug
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no offense at all it is a customers dream to have the Falcon restored to like new, and (I don't argue with sentimentail atachment ) just do the best job you can. your statment says it best about collectability. I'll try to put some other pictures up but they are to big right now we are updating our web site and will put some up there in a few weeks www.autokraftnebraska.com or rollerhoop .com
Chadly
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Look at the AMC Gremlin, not too popular back then, or now, but they are collectables to the people that like them, like me. I will one day have a tricked out gremlin.
kustomizingkid
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I give no concern to how collectible other people think a car is... hell I'd love it if everyone hate every car I liked, they are cheaper that way....
They become collectible after they become rare.
Old baseball cars are collectible because they are rare.
Baseball cards now, despite being called "collectible" are worthless because they were made in such high volumes and everyone saved them.
Comic books too.
But the Mark VIII has as good a chance as any car from the 90s. Low production numbers, nice styling, interesting engineering. The Marks from the 70s were worthless a few years back, now they are shooting up in value.
Old baseball cars are collectible because they are rare.
Baseball cards now, despite being called "collectible" are worthless because they were made in such high volumes and everyone saved them.
Comic books too.
But the Mark VIII has as good a chance as any car from the 90s. Low production numbers, nice styling, interesting engineering. The Marks from the 70s were worthless a few years back, now they are shooting up in value.