I wanna shoot my dash!!! (radio)

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Okay well to start the car came with no radio. Apparently the guy had a alpine dvd player in it. So... Yesterday at the bone yard i picked up a stock radio, hooked it up and got full sound out of my rear pass side, screwed with the black plug and got full sound from rear and still nothing but bass from the front, so today i got a aftermarket radio (new) and wired up the new harness (flawless) and ive got full power but not one peep of sound from the speakers!!! Im still tinkerin with it but figured id post so maybe i can get some help before somethin bad happens :mad: And also on the stock radio i noticed there is a plug above the speaker plug that accepts nothing but if you take it out no sound.... and a lil 2 prong plug slot on the bottom corner
 
If it has a cd changer you may have plugged the changer into the radio harness by accident.(they will fit) And it causes no sound.
 
With the stock radio ive tried balancing and fading and id only get the rear pass unless i pulled the plug upward then id get bothe rear. The front ive only gotten bass no matter what i do.

The new radio i got NO sound what so ever and i searched high and low but only two plugs, the long grey and the 8 pin square black. Ive tried every possible way to make official contact with the pins but nothing, i was considering just breakin the clip open and removing all pins and connecting that way but rather try all options first.

I have switched back and forth just to make sure that nothin has gotten messed up puttin the aftermarket radio in, in other words ill still get sound from the stocker.
 
and for $hits and giggles i unplugged the amp..... no difference.. and also it seems as of now it only want to turn on with the acc on, not running or just the battery
 
Make sure that the amp turn on wire is conneceted on the aftermarket deck and as far as just bass out of the front speakers take the door panels off and make sure the tweeters r connected and take a dmm to them to see what they are reading out.
 
slick, get in the trunk, take out that entire rack that holds the amp. Throw all that :q:q:q:q in the trash and wire everything up yourself from the head unit through your own aftermarket amp to the aftermarket speakers. I took the compass, amp, cell phone crap and w/e else was on that rack and jerked it all out. I get no warning beeps from removing any of that stuff. That amp is most likely shot or it could be a number of things. You need room for the new box anyway.
 
Well one thing for sure, the front tweeters have been disconnected. I was plannin on usin the stock amp for a lil while to power the 6x8's and have a seperate amp to power the super tweeters. So the tweeters no bein hooked up could cause that?

And thanks for tellin me what all that junk is on that rack, i never knew, except the compass. Which wont work anyway unless i relocate it (sub mags thro it off)

Well i suppose ill tear the car apart again.... my buddys got a kenwood 4-channel for sale, guess that will have to work for now. And when i rewire all this would i just cut the connector of the wire harness (aftermarket) to splice wires together? OOOHH or i can just run the wires from the speakers to the amp and rca's from headunit to amp correct?

And what amp turn on wire?
 
yeah the 6x8's in the jbl system are just a mid bass and they are crossdover in the amp. So just do what u are talking about and get that 4ch. I would just run new wire from the amp to all the speakers it is super easy and that way u have new wiring that u no is good. The turn on wire in the factory harness is in the black plug its the blue/white stripe just hook that up to the same color wire coming out of the headunit. If that does not work try hooking it to the straight blue wire coming from the black plug.
 
Yes, down one side of the car, you will run 12+ power and blue remote wire. Run your own blue remote wire. It's too easy not to. On the other side of the car, you want to run the RCA cables from the head unit which I hope you have 3 sets of. One should be rear, one set for the front and one set for the subs. Anyway, the RCA's and power wires need to be on opposite sides. Find a good spot in the trunk to ground the amp (good solid metal) and when you have the amp ready, buy a roll of at least 16 to 14 gauge speaker wire. Run the wire from the amp to each speaker, one by one. Go ahead and get the fronts over with because they are the hardest to do if you run the wire through the rubber grommet along with all the other wires. Clothes hanger works fine if you tape the wire to it and pull it through or push it through. Running the wire through the grommet just makes things look a lot better and you'll never have to worry about seeing it. The amp itself needs to be fused within the first 10 to 15 inches of the positive battery terminal. I would have the negative terminal off while you get the amp hooked up. The last step you should be taking to get the amp on is putting the fuse in at the terminal and then turning on the CD player to see if you have power. The rear speaker wires are very simple to run and hide. Make sure not to cross any of your + or - from the amp to speakers or the sound will be way off.

As for that rack in the back, that whole entire thing can come down and you will want to do this anyway so that you can remove any insulation from the holes that are above it. All the stuff on it is cell phone, compass and amp related. Just unplug all of it and get it out of your way. Don't mount the amp upside down or on the back of the seat or it could over heat. It has heat sink fins and needs to breathe. Mount it flat if at all possible. You should have a total of 2 sets of RCA's running to the 4 channel amp. Don't be cheap when buying these cables. Quality means a lot when it comes to RCA's. Get the twisted style, nothing Wal*Mart sells unless they have Monster and they should be ok but I would still go for something better. If you're still running the 0 AWG wire, I would get a distribution block that accepts that size or 2 AWG and has 2 outputs for 4 to 8 AWG wire. Maybe you need one with 4 outputs. 2 AWG should be sufficient IMO and then 4 AWG to the amps.
 
Okay im an official doo doo brain, i hooked up the power wire which i DONT know why i thought it was for a aftermarket amp and i got some sound but it now just nasy inconsistant static from the passenger rear, sooooo ive got nothing else to assume BUT the factory amp is shot. Which doesnt rreally matter anyway due to it coming out but at least it solves an answer or two for me.

Unforunatly i did only run 2 pairs of rcas but i do have a 3rd set so thats good. Ill buy a spool of speaker wire this week and have at it. It kinda sucks tho... im goin to have to have the high pass filter on the front if im goin to run the tweeters from the same four channel UNLESS i run the 4 6x8's to the rear channel and the tweeters to the front. I dont care so much about fading the speakers cause dead center sounds fine to me. But i guess we will see what happens. Apparently my tweeters eat 200wrms too. so a better amp will be needed but for 20 bucks for this kenwood will to just to get every thing set up and tested.
 
slickemhoundd said:
Okay im an official doo doo brain, i hooked up the power wire which i DONT know why i thought it was for a aftermarket amp and i got some sound but it now just nasy inconsistant static from the passenger rear, sooooo ive got nothing else to assume BUT the factory amp is shot. Which doesnt rreally matter anyway due to it coming out but at least it solves an answer or two for me.

Unforunatly i did only run 2 pairs of rcas but i do have a 3rd set so thats good. Ill buy a spool of speaker wire this week and have at it. It kinda sucks tho... im goin to have to have the high pass filter on the front if im goin to run the tweeters from the same four channel UNLESS i run the 4 6x8's to the rear channel and the tweeters to the front. I dont care so much about fading the speakers cause dead center sounds fine to me. But i guess we will see what happens. Apparently my tweeters eat 200wrms too. so a better amp will be needed but for 20 bucks for this kenwood will to just to get every thing set up and tested.
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Try the 6X8's alone first and see what you think and yes, it's good that you have a set of sub outputs on the deck. I also don't have mine faded. Dead center is where it's set and sounds fine. You might be happy with just the 6X8's alone. Just don't put your door panels on until you test it first lol.
 
sounds like the amp is bad but it does not matter since u are replacing it all anyway. Thats some crazy tweeters i have about 400 rms to my components and they scream so i no what 200 rms will do to a set of tweeters. If i where u i would just get a dedicated amp for them if u plan to send that much power to them.
 
thats a nice deck plenty of features and a nice preout voltage. Cant go wrong with that one. This is the car u switched the whole interior out in rite didnt u already mount the tweeters in the factory pods.
 
Yes sir i did

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And the 6x8's

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That looks good. Love the deck. I have a question. What size are the door speakers , my mark is a 98.
 
slickemhoundd said:
The whole interior is already back together minus the passenger seat lol! I got the walmart special just to test everything out since i was un easy about the stocker from the yard but this is the bad mama jama thats goin in :D
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-PIONEER-DEH...r_Audio_In_Dash_Receivers?hash=item20adc4a8b1
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That's the deck I use. You won't be disappointed. I've had it since a couple weeks after it first came out (about 3 or 4 years now), and I love it. I think I paid $430 for mine back then, off of ebay.

Good pick ;)
 
slickemhoundd said:
The whole interior is already back together minus the passenger seat lol! I got the walmart special just to test everything out since i was un easy about the stocker from the yard but this is the bad mama jama thats goin in :D
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-PIONEER-DEH...r_Audio_In_Dash_Receivers?hash=item20adc4a8b1
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That is one of the greatest decks of all time!!! Superior sound quality and just an excellent processor section. You will be very happy with that. My shop used to sell them for $850 all day long.
 
LaserSVT said:
That is one of the greatest decks of all time!!! Superior sound quality and just an excellent processor section. You will be very happy with that. My shop used to sell them for $850 all day long.
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I believe it. It's worth it. I've had the last 3 9** series that Pioneer has put out and they were all awesome. Had the 940mp, the 960mp and the 980bt. All sounded great. After the 940, I bought a Clarion DVD deck with lower-voltage preouts and it didn't sound near as good. It eventually was stolen, and that's when I got the 960. Way better. I think the 980 is the best one so far (lots of great features, and at the time, it was one of the first to have bluetooth). I can't wait for the next one in line. Only negative point is that it doesn't scroll through the ipod menu very fast. Not a big deal, though.
 
yack yack yack about all these Pioneer's :D I'm still hooked to my Kenwood Excelon. I remember when they had Pioneer supertuner 1 with cassette. Then they bumped it up over time to the supertuner III and I saw an Alpine pick up more stations than the Pioneer. I have had a lot of different decks but since 92, I have only owned Kenwood. I had a Sony once and it sucked but this was when I was still in cassettes and then I bought a Kenwood cassette player and the only thing wrong with it was that it was time for a CD player. I will admit, the Kenwood model I bought did piss me off after a few years because it was the motorized face and the damn ribbon wire broke. One thing at a time started to go out on it as the wire broke. Cost me $80.00 to have the wire fixed and I used it for a while longer and then went to Excelon. It was the KDC-X959 and now have the X789.

I'm just bustin balls. Y'all like Pioneer's and I'll never come away from Excelon decks. I don't care for anything else Kenwood has. When I see the Kenwood brand hit a walmart, I'll stop! I'm sure I'm not the only Kenwood fan on here. Most are probably over in the LS section. :shifty:
 
Take a Kenwood Exelon and put it in a sound board side by side with a Pioneer. Set them both completly flat and drive a good pair of components. You will change your mind. Yes the Kenwood sounds good and has many features but side by side you hear how the Pioneer has more realistic lows and at 4K it isnt tinny like the Kenwood.
The higher end Excelons do have a great S/N felatio and a real low THD so they do well in certain streo competitions.
 
Well the guy sold the kenwood BUT i got the sherwood A100x4 for 20 bucks, i heard it hooked up so ii didnt get jipped but the only thing is ill have to fix one of the rca's, no biggy. Its 100wrmsx4 250x2. Itll work for now, havent found much online about it the lil i searched since i got home but for now it outta do the trick. 20 bucks cant argue
 
$20? You werre ripped off. You couldnt pay me $200 to install it in my car. Sherwood is one of the all time worst brands. I would sooner buy a Pyramid or Audiovox. Please dont install that thing.Your speaker combo is gonna be harsh enough, that amp will make it much worse.
 
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