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    Hmmmm... seems like Hypatia didn't die at the hands of Christians of FAITH,,, but at the hands of people with "religious" beliefs......... shortly before Rome formed a "state", (national), Christian "religion" in 380AD.

    Once again Wrm... you need to educate yourself before throwing accusations.

    FAITH,,, does not reduce God to an "if/then" formula... like religion does.

    FAITH... is not about how to master the "gods",,, and appease them.

    Whereas... that's exactly what religion does. It reduces the "gods" down to a formula to manipulate.

    A quick historical study of pagan "religions" will show the above to be true.
     
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    really like this biblical morality.
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    Well... I did chuckle at your last post,,, but in truth you are making the same mistake "Don-O" did, (and some Christians do), by "cherry picking" Bible verses out of context.

    I'll start with an easy one... to show your misconstructions.

    Matthew 18:6 (NLT)... in proper context, (red is JESUS speaking):

    1About that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Who is greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven?”

    2Jesus called a little child to him and put the child among them. 3Then he said, “I tell you the truth, unless you turn from your sins and become like little children, you will never get into the Kingdom of Heaven. 4So anyone who becomes as humble as this little child is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven.

    5“And anyone who welcomes a little child like this on my behalfa is welcoming me. 6But if you cause one of these little ones who trusts in me to fall into sin, it would be better for you to have a large millstone tied around your neck and be drowned in the depths of the sea.

    7“What sorrow awaits the world, because it tempts people to sin. Temptations are inevitable, but what sorrow awaits the person who does the tempting. 8So if your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It’s better to enter eternal life with only one hand or one foot than to be thrown into eternal fire with both of your hands and feet. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It’s better to enter eternal life with only one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.b

    10“Beware that you don’t look down on any of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels are always in the presence of my heavenly Father.c

    Sooo.... according to Jesus, (God in the flesh), if you or I lure or lead a child down a bad road, (by example or intention), we will have to answer for that. I should feel sorry for the sex traffickers and drug dealers at this point, (and molesting preists)... but I don't.

    Again... bad idea throwing a singular New Tesament verse,,, in with a bunch of Old Testament verses... just to try and prove an invalid point.
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    Ezekiel 5:10 (NLT)... again in proper context, (Ezekiel was a prophet to the Israelites from 592-570 BC).


    1 “Son of man, take a sharp sword and use it as a razor to shave your head and beard. Use a scale to weigh the hair into three equal parts. 2Place a third of it at the center of your map of Jerusalem. After acting out the siege, burn it there. Scatter another third across your map and chop it with a sword. Scatter the last third to the wind, for I will scatter my people with the sword. 3Keep just a bit of the hair and tie it up in your robe. 4Then take some of these hairs out and throw them into the fire, burning them up. A fire will then spread from this remnant and destroy all of Israel.

    5“This is what the Sovereign Lord says: This is an illustration of what will happen to Jerusalem. I placed her at the center of the nations, 6but she has rebelled against my regulations and decrees and has been even more wicked than the surrounding nations. She has refused to obey the regulations and decrees I gave her to follow.

    7“Therefore, this is what the Sovereign Lord says: You people have behaved worse than your neighbors and have refused to obey my decrees and regulations. You have not even lived up to the standards of the nations around you. 8Therefore, I myself, the Sovereign Lord, am now your enemy. I will punish you publicly while all the nations watch. 9Because of your detestable idols, I will punish you like I have never punished anyone before or ever will again. 10Parents will eat their own children, and children will eat their parents. I will punish you and scatter to the winds the few who survive.

    The book of Ezekiel... is part allegory,,, and part literal history. I did a brief study on Ezekiel a while back, (probably due to Don's heresy), so it's not too hard to validate the timeline of when this actually happened. Short story... the Israelites were in such desparate times to survive. The prophecy of Ezekiel came true during the history in the Book of 2nd Kings.

    2nd kings chapter 6 (NLT):


    Ben-Hadad Besieges Samaria

    24Some time later, however, King Ben-hadad of Aram mustered his entire army and besieged Samaria. 25As a result, there was a great famine in the city. The siege lasted so long that a donkey’s head sold for eighty pieces of silver, and a cup of dove’s dung sold for five piecesa of silver.

    26One day as the king of Israel was walking along the wall of the city, a woman called to him, “Please help me, my lord the king!”

    27He answered, “If the Lord doesn’t help you, what can I do? I have neither food from the threshing floor nor wine from the press to give you.” 28But then the king asked, “What is the matter?”

    She replied, “This woman said to me: ‘Come on, let’s eat your son today, then we will eat my son tomorrow.’ 29So we cooked my son and ate him. Then the next day I said to her, ‘Kill your son so we can eat him,’ but she has hidden her son.”

    As the saying goes Wrm... Scripture interprets Scripture, (the Bible proves itself).

    Choking on your own fallicies again Wrm??? Want me to keep going??? It will take some time, (alot),,, but I could most likely put all of the verses you listed... into proper historical and accurate context.

    Here's a timeling for the Book of Ezekiel, (which again... is a prophecy timeline for the Book of 2nd Kings):

    Timeline of Ezekiel | Precept Austin
     
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    Leviticus 27:6 shouldn't be to hard. I'll cover that one too. Again (NLT)

    Redemption of Gifts Offered to the Lord

    1The Lord said to Moses, 2“Give the following instructions to the people of Israel. If anyone makes a special vow to dedicate someone to the Lord by paying the value of that person, 3here is the scale of values to be used. A man between the ages of twenty and sixty is valued at fifty shekelsa of silver, as measured by the sanctuary shekel. 4A woman of that age is valued at thirty shekelsb of silver. 5A boy between the ages of five and twenty is valued at twenty shekels of silver; a girl of that age is valued at ten shekelsc of silver. 6A boy between the ages of one month and five years is valued at five shekels of silver; a girl of that age is valued at three shekelsd of silver. 7A man older than sixty is valued at fifteen shekels of silver; a woman of that age is valued at ten shekelse of silver. 8If you desire to make such a vow but cannot afford to pay the required amount, take the person to the priest. He will determine the amount for you to pay based on what you can afford.

    Sooooo WRM... in proper context,,,, no amont of money was NEEDED/required to dedicate an infant to God. It wasn't that infants have no value. Same thing with Numbers 3:15... it wasn't rerquired.
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    As far as the guy getting favor from God by sleeping with his 2 daughters.... I think you have that a little backwards.

    Genesis 19:30-38 (NLT)

    Lot and His Daughters

    30Afterward Lot left Zoar because he was afraid of the people there, and he went to live in a cave in the mountains with his two daughters. 31One day the older daughter said to her sister, “There are no men left anywhere in this entire area, so we can’t get married like everyone else. And our father will soon be too old to have children. 32Come, let’s get him drunk with wine, and then we will have sex with him. That way we will preserve our family line through our father.”

    33So that night they got him drunk with wine, and the older daughter went in and had intercourse with her father. He was unaware of her lying down or getting up again.

    34The next morning the older daughter said to her younger sister, “I had sex with our father last night. Let’s get him drunk with wine again tonight, and you go in and have sex with him. That way we will preserve our family line through our father.” 35So that night they got him drunk with wine again, and the younger daughter went in and had intercourse with him. As before, he was unaware of her lying down or getting up again.

    36As a result, both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their own father. 37When the older daughter gave birth to a son, she named him Moab.b He became the ancestor of the nation now known as the Moabites. 38When the younger daughter gave birth to a son, she named him Ben-ammi.c He became the ancestor of the nation now known as the Ammonites

    Biblical history shows that the Moabites and Ammonites were godless people that warred with the Israelites.

    So anyway it was Lot's daughters that slept with him... because they thought there were no other men around to have children with. IIRC... Lot is not mentioned any further in the Bible at this point,,, AND he didn't seem to earn god's favor by anyone sleeping with him.

    Keep trying. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.
     
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    noticed you didn't go after the first couple of memes. or the last.
    if only you proved it real and mattered i'd bother listening to you 04.
    when i get that dinner i'll give you that phone call and say your right. i won't hold my breath. :D
    i'd sell my soul to find out, but that would mean another figment of imagination is there for something i don't have. :eek:
    have a good life with your imaginary friend. o_O
     
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    There you go again with your rant regarding 'proof'. The essence of faith is that it doesn't require proof. If it could be proved, it wouldn't require faith. You're yelling at the wall, as usual.

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      Well, there is no proof hrmwrm would accept...especially logical proof, as he has blind faith in materialism.
       
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        i said what proof i'd accept shag. you should stop lying. shows you to be the narrow minded little twat you are. :rolleyes:
         
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        You're ignoring my offering of the fact that 'proof' and faith are polar opposites. Faith is only possible when there is nothing of proof to rely on. You're trying to make a major of a minor.

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          Really? I've been waiting for YEARS for you to justify your materialist assumptions and empiricist standard of judgment.
           
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          right after you prove god. then my judgement would be wrong. :)
          only if you prove god would i have to justify it. :rolleyes:
          run away with your delusion there shag.
           
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          Have you noticed that we sometimes don't see worm for several weeks? Then someone in his life pees in his cheerios and he has to expend his bile on someone where he can be safe, so he comes here and bashes someone else's belief---ignoring the massive inconsistencies in his rant.

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            more words of woe from the witless wonder. nothing inconsistent in my statement.
            but you should recheck that bible. it's a big huge inconsistency.
             
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            I chose not to respond to your other pics... because I decided I am no longer going down that circular "rabbit hole" with you any more. As far as proof... you know as well as I do,,, that something abstract, (such as a deity), is hard to prove. It took scientists long ago, centuries to understand, (prove), how and what we breathe, allows us to live... and what the building blocks of life on earth,,, are. Until then,,, air was abstract, (oxygen and nitrogen etc.). Same with DNA later.

            Thing is... I have proven, (to a large degree), the Bible is an accurate historical and scientific book. You choose to ignore those proofs... which allows you to ingnore the possible existence of a Supreme Creator,,, that set everything into motion before humankind existed.


            I have encouaged you to read the Bible with an open mind,,, and in proper context. But since you refuse to do that... the bible, (and God), remain an abstruse enigma to you. You continue to mock what others say... while closing your eyes,,, and plug your ears... to what others have said.

            I don't completely blame you. You are the product of a country and society that has made it easy to disbelieve in the existence of God. Canada is a socialist country that does NOT separate "church and state". In most socialist countries,,, main line religous denominations are funded by the government... so in a sense,,, what is preached by churches... falls victim to censorship.

            The Canadian supreme court did such a thing back in 2013,,, considering certain parts of the Bible... "hate speech". President Obama did something similar... by passing legislation,,, saying that if churches wouldn't marry LGBT couples... they would lose their tax exempt status.

            Yup. Socialism is soooo wonderful. :rolleyes: Perfect place for atheism and false religion to thrive.

            Since Nazism is a form of socialism... check this out, (a good read for anyone):

            Religion in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

            Your wonderful president Trudeau... has alingned himself with George Soros. You know... that billionaire backing the U.N. that has pushed for gun control in many countries??? Seems many countries that disarm citizens are now falling prey to terrorist attacks.

            Some interesting facts... compliments of a Google search:

            Polls have probed church attendance, tying declining religious participation to changing demographics. Weekly attendance at religious services in Canada is just 13 percent, according to a December 2013 poll by the Evangelical Fellowship of Canada (EFC) and the Angus Reid Forum, a national polling firm.

            No wonder you are atheistic wrm, (which atheism is a "belief"/"faith"/"religion" also).

            What is the fastest growing religion in Canada?
            Across the country, the Muslim population is growing at a rate exceeding other religions, according to Statistics Canada. It is even growing faster than the number of Canadians identifying as having no religion, though just barely, according to the National Household Survey released Wednesday.May 8, 2013

            Canada's rate of 22 percent of households owning firearms was in the middle range of the nine countries (Ibidem). In all nine countries, more households owned long guns than handguns. According to the survey, 95 percent of households in Canada owning firearms had a long gun and less than 12 percent owned handguns.Jan 7, 2015

            Keep it up Trudeau/Soros. :rolleyes: Socialism/liberalism does great wonders for a country. ;)
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            Which religion is fast growing in the world?
            Islam: The world's fastest growing religion. Islam is the world's second-largest religion, after Christianity. But this could change if the current demographic trends continue, according to research published by the US-based Pew Research Center.Mar 16, 2017

            Which religion has the highest population in the world?
            "As of 2010, Christianity was by far the world's largest religion, with an estimated 2.2 billion adherents, nearly a third (31 percent) of all 6.9 billion people on Earth," the Pew report says. "Islam was second, with 1.6 billion adherents, or 23 percent of the global population."Apr 2, 2015

            How many Christians are there in the world?
            2.2 billion Christians

            Christianity is the largest religion in the world and according to the Pew Research Center, is likely to remain so for the next four decades. As of 2010, the latest year for which figures are available, there are an estimated 2.2 billion Christians around the world.Dec 12, 2016

            Christianity is the largest religion in Canada, with the Catholic Church having the most adherents. Christians, representing 67.3% of the population, are followed by people having no religion with 23.9% of the total population. Islam is the second largest religion in Canada, practised by 3.2% of the population.

            Give it up wrm... you are wayyyy outnumbered. :D
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            Previously, starting from 2000, an average rate of weekly church attendance in Britain was dropping down 1% annually. In 2013, the Pew Research Center reported that 37% of all Americans attended church on a weekly basis. In its turn, Gallup estimated the once-a-week church attendance of the Americans in 2013 as 39%.

            The statistic shows the percentage of households in the United States which own firearms from 1972 to 2017. In 2017, about 42 percent of U.S. households had at least one gun in possession. Firearms command a higher degree of cultural significance in the United States than any other country in the world.

            What is the percentage of Christianity in the US?
            According to a 2014 study by the Pew Research Center, 70.6% of the adult population identified themselves as Christians, with 46.5% professing attendance at a variety of churches that could be considered Protestant, and 20.8% professing Roman Catholic beliefs.




            When an individual loses the right to speak their opinion,,, or worship however they choose,,, or defend themselves... they become subjects instead of citizens. Have fun being a subect Wrm.
             
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            To YOU maybe... due to lack of understanding and ignorance.
             
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            Back to the music thing.

            Rolling Stones- sympathy for the devil, (came to me while reading the link I offered on Nazi Germany).



            Lyrics:

            Sympathy for the Devil
            The Rolling Stones
            Please allow me to introduce myself
            I'm a man of wealth and taste
            I've been around for a long, long year
            Stole many a man's soul to waste
            And I was 'round when Jesus Christ
            Had his moment of doubt and pain
            Made damn sure that Pilate
            Washed his hands and sealed his fate
            Pleased to meet you
            Hope you guess my name
            But what's puzzling you
            Is the nature of my game
            I stuck around St. Petersburg
            When I saw it was a time for a change
            Killed the czar and his ministers
            Anastasia screamed in vain
            I rode a tank
            Held a general's rank
            When the blitzkrieg raged
            And the bodies stank
            Pleased to meet you
            Hope you guess my name, oh yeah
            Ah, what's puzzling you
            Is the nature of my game, oh yeah
            (Woo woo, woo woo)
            I watched with glee
            While your kings and queens
            Fought for ten decades
            For…
            I watched with glee
            While your kings and queens
            Fought for ten decades
            For the gods they made
            (Woo woo, woo woo)
            I shouted out,
            "Who killed the Kennedys?"
            When after all
            It was you and me
            (Who who, who who)
            Let me please introduce myself
            I'm a man of wealth and taste
            And I laid traps for troubadours
            Who get killed before they reached Bombay
            (Woo woo, who who)
            Pleased to meet you
            Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah
            (Who who)
            But what's puzzling you
            Is the nature of my game, oh yeah, get down, baby
            (Who who, who who)
            Pleased to meet you
            Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah
            But what's confusing you
            Is just the nature of my game
            (Woo woo, who who)
            Just as every cop is a criminal
            And all the sinners saints
            As heads is tails
            Just call me Lucifer
            'Cause I'm in need of some restraint
            (Who who, who who)
            So if you meet me
            Have some courtesy
            Have some sympathy, and some taste
            (Woo woo)
            Use all your well-learned politesse
            Or I'll lay your soul to waste, mm yeah
            (Woo woo, woo woo)
            Pleased to meet you
            Hope you guessed my name, mm yeah
            (Who who)
            But what's puzzling you
            Is the nature of my game, mm mean it, get down
            (Woo woo, woo woo)
            Woo, who
            Oh yeah, get on down
            Oh yeah
            Oh yeah!
            (Woo woo)
            Tell me baby, what's my name
            Tell me honey, can ya guess my name
            Tell me baby, what's my name
            I tell you one time, you're to blame
            Oh, who
            Woo, woo
            Woo, who
            Woo, woo
            Woo, who, who
            Woo, who, who
            Oh, yeah
            What's my name
            Tell me, baby, what's my name
            Tell me, sweetie, what's my name
            Woo, who, who
            Woo, who, who
            Woo, who, who
            Woo, who, who
            Woo, who, who
            Woo, who, who
            Oh, yeah
            Woo woo
            Woo woo
            Songwriters: Keith Richards / Mick Jagger
            Sympathy for the Devil lyrics © Abkco Music, Inc
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            Yup Wrm... my imaginary enemy is real too.... "roaming to and fro like a lion, seeking whom he may devour". You're being hunted bud... and don't even know it.
             
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            AND humanism:

            hu·man·ism
            ˈ(h)yo͞oməˌnizəm/
            noun
            noun: humanism
            1. an outlook or system of thought attaching prime importance to human rather than divine or supernatural matters. Humanist beliefs stress the potential value and goodness of human beings, emphasize common human needs, and seek solely rational ways of solving human problems.
              • a Renaissance cultural movement that turned away from medieval scholasticism and revived interest in ancient Greek and Roman thought.
                noun: Humanism
              • (among some contemporary writers) a system of thought criticized as being centered on the notion of the rational, autonomous self and ignoring the unintegrated and conditioned nature of the individual
             
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            Actually Wrm... the idea of empiricism, (and humanism), stand separately from any consideration of a deity. So your statement above is erroneous,,, AND inconsistent. You would have to state why you follow either thought process mentioned,,, whether you believe in God or not.

            Encarta Dictionary
            2. inconsistent thing: something that contradicts something else or that is not in keeping with it
             
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            LOL!!! That's a bit ironic. Definitely a "pot/kettle" moment there Wrm.
             
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            Empiricism - Wikipedia
            Empiricism - Wikipedia

            Empiricism is a theory that states that knowledge comes only or primarily from sensory experience.... Empiricism in the philosophy of science emphasizes evidence, especially as discovered in experiments

            My above quote of what you said,,, and the definition... PROVES your empirical standard of judgement. Unless you have a direct "experience" with God,,, you refuse to believe. So Shag is correct in his assertion.
             
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            unless you can prove god, then the empirical standard stands, doesn't it. unless you conjure another god, there is no other way.
            magic fascinates everybody, but is not possible.
            you are not born with a god view. else all you religious crazies would believe the same thing. :rolleyes:(instead of the 1000's that religious do, even in your own denomination.)
            god must BE to have a god experience. so when it comes and visits me, i'll come and say you're right.
            til then, enjoy your figment.
            problem with you and shag is you can't get out of the god arguement to look at it from the other side to see how unplausible it is.
            either that or you don't like to be a fool so you stand by your convictions, no matter the impossibility of it. (kinda like the emperors new clothes)

            you've been brainwashed into believing you have personal relationship with something that exists only in your mind and stories.
            if it helps you, keep it. but stop knocking on my door and bothering me with it.
            if you find somebody to buy into your lunatic fringe, good for you. :cool:
             
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            Let me clarify something for you. In an above post, I said that you would have to justify your empirical thought... regardless of belief in God.

            To prove that point... I know a few people that believe in God,,, but still entertain an empirical thought process. I also know a few people, (you being one), that don't believe in God... that also entertain an empirical thought proscess.

            So what I said in an above post,,, still stands.

            Just because you do not believe in God... does NOT relieve you from having to justify your empiricism.

            This just shows more of your ignorance. Not all religions have the same beliefs,,, nor do they believe in the same God. THIS is the problem with RELIGION. Religion is not FAITH. As I said before... Religion is a bunch of man made rules... that idyllically are supposed to appease "the gods". Religion doesn't work!!!!!!!!

            This is where FAITH comes into play. It bypasses man made religious rules. Faith, IIRC, is a word I have yet to see you use or discuss when related to any deity. Seems to me that you have no idea what faith is.... except maybe in yourself. That would explain all of the "isms" that you appear to practice and believe.

            In case you forget,,, many posts ago... I mentioned that I went to a non-denominational church for the better part of 16 years. So my Faith is not based on any denomination... but on proper understanding of the Bible,,, and (yes), actually having a few personal experiences with a GOD that DOES actually exist. Go ahead and mock me for saying that.... I don't care. I KNOW God is real. No brainwashing needed.

            No... actually I am able to look at the God argument from the other side. That's partly why I am still talking to you! My dilemma is that I haven't figured out a good way to explain something tangible,

            (2. actual: capable of being understood and evaluated, and therefore regarded as real )

            ... that appears intangible to some people. Especially when a person closes their eyes, and plugs their ears to any plausible explanation.

            You have your mind made up,,, so to YOU God doesn't exist. Your mind is completely closed to God... while remaining open to all other possibilities. You are the immovable rock balanced on a pin point. All you have to stand on... is "prove it" along with a few atheistic pics and poor twists on Bible scripture. Plus twists on Christianity. You are trying to "stone" the rest of us.... much the same as ISIS is doing to that woman in the video.

            I think most people on this thread can see how ignorant and close minded your position is... and the fact that you have no clue what Faith is actually about. You aren't even asking for help to believe or to understand why people do... just mocking those who do.

            It's obvious you don't understand or know how to read the Bible... otherwise you would pose better arguments. Come back when you have taken time to read the Bible... and attempted to understand what is says. The Book of Enoch doesn't count,,, because you can't understand that... until you have read the Bible.
             
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            proves nothing. some smart people are confused. and some try and carry the odds.
            tell you what. try a different tact.


            WTF difference would it make in my life if i believed? would i be smarter? richer? have more friends? be impervious to death? fraternize with ghosts?
            i'm already a righteous moral person. wtf do i need a bunch of nutters telling me how to go about my day and what mythological beings i should believe in? or what traditions i should hold. or what people i should like?
            never in my WHOLE 55+ years of life have i experienced anything that would make me believe in the supernatural.
            so, like i said, until you prove god. or, the supernatural i guess really.
            although there are a bunch of crazy buggers who are that gullible.
            told ya, i'll phone you after. don't need your number. your imaginary friend will have it. :rolleyes:
             
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            Most likely.


            Ya know... a quick Google search shows you on many other forums,,, and at quick glance I didn't see any of your prattle elsewhere,,, like here. Why here???

            By YOUR OWN standards. There's all of those "isms" you believe in,,, showing up again. A righteous moral person wouldn't mock others beliefs.... but a SELF RIGHTEOUS person would. A moral person wouldn't mock others beliefs.... but an IMMORAL person would.

            Can you say DOUBLE STANDARD????????????????????????????

            Wrm > poke.gif < People that believe in God

            At this point you aren't even measuring up to what you just said about yourself.

            Can you say INCONSISTENCY???????????????????????????????

            I'm sorry you haven't. Maybe if you had a more open mind... you would. I pray that you do get that experience.
             

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