MAT88GT
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I doubt you want to travel to Iowa just to race, but we have 3-4 track days for my site every year...they're geared toward fomoco stuff yet anyone is welcome to attend and race
MAT88GT said:I doubt you want to travel to Iowa just to race, but we have 3-4 track days for my site every year...they're geared toward fomoco stuff yet anyone is welcome to attend and race
If anyone was to read my original post. i never stated i raced these cars in a 1/4 mile. Im a commuter and most races hapen on the freeway. So TRY AGAIN. "BTW" hell would freeze over b4 you "schooled" me in your 4300 pound BOAT!Katshot said:Dude, you're comments are laughable (the ones I could understand anyway). I had to read your post a couple times to decifer them and I'm STILL not sure WHAT you wanted to break but be that as it may, I assure you that it would take quite a bit of luck for you to pull off anything remotely considered a victory against ANY of the cars you listed.
I too, like the LS but it is anything but a racecar. Enjoy your car for what it is, a nice looking, classy ride. If you ever really want to race, pick on something more your speed. There's plenty of 15 second cars out there to play with. Just don't expect me to swallow your daydreams.
Oh, and BTW, anytime you want a "Caddy driver" to show you "what's up", bring that LS to my area of the country and I'll take you to school. Hell, a STOCK STS or ETC would spank your LS.
Katshot said:1/4 mile or no, you're WAY out of your league. I think you're probably mistaken about those cars racing you. And as far as me schooling you with my "4300 pound boat", get it right, it's more like 4500 pounds! And I'll STILL have no problem dusting your LS from any speed.
mikepietras04 said::I Well, lets put it this way: I OWN an LS, and I won't even talk it up like that. A buddy of mine with an 03 Acura RSX- Type S stick with me from a dead stop all the way to about 70... Then that six speed trans of his helps him pull to about 2 car lengths on me by the time we are at 120ish. Yep, a 2 litre 4 banger. It took me a custom exhasut and intake to keep up with him, but he still pulls when we get closer to 100. There simply isn't enough low end power in the LS to get a good launch. On the E-way, as you said, it is a different story, the LS has a decent amount of power on tap when it is already moving, i've had my share of audi's, bimmers, and mercedes that think thier lux is better than mine, and i proved them wrong. However, THEY need to know that you wan't to prove this to them. When you fly past them and then they mash it, it doesn't quite count.
Katshot said:No doubt. But the fact is that "stock" for "stock", a 4.6 Northstar Cadillac will beat up on a 4.6 Lincoln. Once you start modding the cars, ANYTHING can happen. The guy's comments about the cars he beat with a basically stock LS were ludicrous, and when he started making what was basically a personal attack (Caddy drivers) he only helped to ruin whatever credibility he had as far as I'm concerned.
I realize MY car isn't any "racecar" but it's more than a match for any marginally modded (read: naturally aspirated, bolt-on mods, no engine mods, no juice) Lincoln. Hell, I have a fairly quick MKVII but I wouldn't dilude myself about it's performance.
I agree that a track day would be fun.
unstoppable said:Okay, you had me on your side for a minute.I agree with the BS flag.
But I HAVE raced stock MarkVIIIs with stock Caddies and while they are close races the Lincoln pulls a car or two once it hits third gear.EVERYTIME
And I know how much faster a stock Mark is compared to a stock LS, thats why I agree with the BS flag.
unstoppable said:Okay, you had me on your side for a minute.I agree with the BS flag.
But I HAVE raced stock MarkVIIIs with stock Caddies and while they are close races the Lincoln pulls a car or two once it hits third gear.EVERYTIME
And I know how much faster a stock Mark is compared to a stock LS, thats why I agree with the BS flag.
The Eldo probably had like 150k city miles on it. I would LOVE to rip a Northstart 4.6 out and throw it in front drive 90 Grand Prix... I would scare people.Katshot said:Okay, shoot me for 8/1000th of a second.
You may have beaten up on a Caddy as you say but I've seen STSs at the track running high 14's as well and I've even seen them in magazines running 14.6's and 14.7's so I guess you just happened to find a slow Eldorado. What are some published ET's of the MKVIII?
Katshot said:Okay, shoot me for 8/1000th of a second.![]()
Gears: Cuz it's a Luxury car at heart... 30 mpg at 65-75 is the key here.SC_Steve said:lol, hey... 14's are 14's
plus I'm sure with a better driver, it could have hit better numbers. I went when first bought the car and it was my first time at a track
still not sure why lincoln didn't put steeper gears in these things though
edit: not sure on published et's on the car. all depends on where ya look I guess. then again, you can never really trust those numbers IMHO. I've read alot of biased articles before.
hottweelz said:Are we still arguing over time slips...? I'll go do 14.x this weekend and scan my slip... this is, as Americans, what we shoot for? 14.x seconds in a Car? My daily driver Mark VIII better be a 14 second car otherwise you'll see it for sale... Anybody got some C(n)H(2n+1)OH laying around? 14 seconds... 149mph+ top speed woohoo, my stereo is louder than yours
Check Please.
Oh we all forgot something. Caddy 4.6 is Front Drive, Lincoln Cobra 4.6 is Rear Drive... who's got the ratio #s at hand? How about Torque? Can we rip the two 4.6s out of the cars, hang 'em on a mount and see who produces more?
the mercedes i raced 3X. all starting at about 90-105mph = about 4300 rpm (MAX torque) climbing all the way to 149 MPH =6500 MAx HP. He was pissed and REALLY wanted me to pull over. his attitude kinda reminds me of all of YOU. he thought i shot NOs on him, i didnt. he looked in my trunk under my hood and seats. And was distrout. Shook my hand and siad he was impressed. Its a true story, the ONLY one whoever gave me props on my car. This was an 05 Mercedes with the 5.0 V8!Katshot said:Exactly. :I
Venture_motorsports_LS said:the mercedes i raced 3X. all starting at about 90-105mph = about 4300 rpm (MAX torque) climbing all the way to 149 MPH =6500 MAx HP. He was pissed and REALLY wanted me to pull over. his attitude kinda reminds me of all of YOU. he thought i shot NOs on him, i didnt. he looked in my trunk under my hood and seats. And was distrout. Shook my hand and siad he was impressed. Its a true story, the ONLY one whoever gave me props on my car. This was an 05 Mercedes with the 5.0 V8!
I have 85K on my motor and its a champ. the exhaust i designed :dual 2.5" no resonator,dynomax ultraflow exhaust adds a grip of power. Can anyone else chirp 2nd in SST with 255/45 17's? PLEASE id like to know!
I dont really care if ANYONE believes me or not. Im not here to bull :q:q:q:q. Anyone that wants to try me, let me know. My Ls will love to send you home crying.! Ill just start carrying my video cam with me and make a DVD, If thats waht it takes...
mikepietras04 said:Wow, this thread needs to end.
1: If you are going to brag/boast in a forum like this, expect scepticism. Thats what it's all about, and all you need to do is back yourself up. No one here is out to make you look like an ass.
2: The LS isn't a rocket, and wont ever be with that drivtrain. You are limited on mods for the 3.9 (intake/exhasut...big deal), the trans is slow, and you have no options for the rear above 3.58. Change any of these drivetrain parts (I.E. different rear, man. trans, different engine) and it really isn't an LS anymore. 14.9-15 seconds just isn't impressive.
3: Had great results with my turbo LS, and am in the works of doing a more dependable (and intercooled) set up. (http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?t=1319)
This is how far I felt I had to go to make the LS worthy of any bragging rights.
Now can we end this thread?