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Been visiting this site for some time and have picked up a ton of good information, Thanks!! Thought I could make a causal observation and possibly help out a few of the members.
I work for Ford and have driven some great cars over my lifetime, I am probably older than most of the members and would love to give a little advice on LS ownership.

The LS is not a sports car, just a pretty good attempt at a performance sedan by Lincoln.
If you beat it, it will break. If you take care of the car, your chances of expensive repairs will drop.
Doing donuts and burnouts are always bad for a car, dont care how much money you spent to upgrade components.
If you wanted a car with good gas mileage, dont buy an LS.
if you wanted an inexpensive car to operate, dont buy an LS.
If you wanted a sports car, dont buy an LS.

The more expensive a car is when it was new will determine how expensive it is to repair and keep in good shape.

If you are looking for a fun car that looks great, you bought the right car!! The common theme for most of the posts revolve around how hard your LS is driven and then complain about the time and money involved to fix it.

Keep up the great posts, thanks!!
 
Well said! :iconcur:

I just hope it's not falling on deaf ears.
 
#1fordfan said:
Been visiting this site for some time and have picked up a ton of good information, Thanks!! Thought I could make a causal observation and possibly help out a few of the members.
I work for Ford and have driven some great cars over my lifetime, I am probably older than most of the members and would love to give a little advice on LS ownership.

The LS is not a sports car, just a pretty good attempt at a performance sedan by Lincoln.
If you beat it, it will break. If you take care of the car, your chances of expensive repairs will drop.
Doing donuts and burnouts are always bad for a car, dont care how much money you spent to upgrade components.
If you wanted a car with good gas mileage, dont buy an LS.
if you wanted an inexpensive car to operate, dont buy an LS.
If you wanted a sports car, dont buy an LS.

The more expensive a car is when it was new will determine how expensive it is to repair and keep in good shape.

If you are looking for a fun car that looks great, you bought the right car!! The common theme for most of the posts revolve around how hard your LS is driven and then complain about the time and money involved to fix it.

Keep up the great posts, thanks!!
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I agree with everything except the gas mileage, The LS gets good gas mileage if driven as intended(not tromping the pedal at every green light).. I'm one of the rare LS owners, my 00LS V-8 is now 10 years old and the only repairs to date are 1 headlight(fogged up), 1 trunk taillamp (loose mounting stud), and PCM reprogramming update for the delayed reverse shifting. All were covered under warranty. I've never had any problems with the COP's,VCG's,window regulators and my LS still has the original battery. I've never had a battery that lasted this long, I think moving it to the trunk away from the heat of the engine compartment has alot to do with it's longevity.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3322744
 
Welcome to the form and great observation...your preaching to the choir. The Lincoln LS does most thing well with style.
 
The gas milage comment is in response to the " can I run 89 octane because 93 costs 25 cents more per gallon". The millions of dollars spent to design a new vehicle includes tons of engineering. When a higher compression engine requires 91+ octane it is meant for optimal performance and reliability for the engine.
 
The 89vs93 gas ?, hard to understand some people, they want the higher priced luxury sport vehicle but it kills them to pay $2-$3 extra to fill-up the tank, but have no problem shelling out thousands for 22" wheels and other bling mods. I also use premium gas in my 1978 Lincoln Continental Mark V even though it only requires 87, most mechanics say it is a waste to run the higher octane, I strongly disagree. When I use the 87 I get about 225 mph from a tank and when I use the 93 I get about 350. No, this isn't a 1 time fluke, I have owned my Mark V for over 26 years and premium gas gives me the best mileage and performance from the 460 under the hood.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3324003
 
hear, hear! ......as in "hear, all ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to say!"



............I still like beating on my chariot occasionally though
 
If I truly wanted a fast car with a large aftermarket a mustang/Mark 8 would of been ideal. I wanted something that not many others had around here for my age (at 20) so my first car was the LS (without knowing the bad points to it) but I'm still happy with mine...
 
I didn't think pete was allowed to post in a thread named "common sense".:confused: :D
 
why buy a car and not beat on it? guess im only 30 so i havent grown out of that yet.
the ls is one of the easiest cars ive worked on, had lots of stangs and those rust out real bad the ls comes apart real easy and is cheap on parts, i think

ive swapped 3 motors, i did the last one with no help in 6 hours
 
why buy a car and not beat on it? guess im only 30 so i havent grown out of that yet.
the ls is one of the easiest cars ive worked on, had lots of stangs and those rust out real bad the ls comes apart real easy and is cheap on parts, i think



By all means, beat on the car if you like, it's your ride!!! Just saying expect to spend more money on repairs than if you don't beat it.

Been working on cars 30+ years, the LS is one of the worst cars to work on and the parts are not cheap.
 
#1fordfan said:
Been visiting this site for some time and have picked up a ton of good information, Thanks!! Thought I could make a causal observation and possibly help out a few of the members.
I work for Ford and have driven some great cars over my lifetime, I am probably older than most of the members and would love to give a little advice on LS ownership.

The LS is not a sports car, just a pretty good attempt at a performance sedan by Lincoln.
If you beat it, it will break. If you take care of the car, your chances of expensive repairs will drop.
Doing donuts and burnouts are always bad for a car, dont care how much money you spent to upgrade components.
If you wanted a car with good gas mileage, dont buy an LS.
if you wanted an inexpensive car to operate, dont buy an LS.
If you wanted a sports car, dont buy an LS.

The more expensive a car is when it was new will determine how expensive it is to repair and keep in good shape.

If you are looking for a fun car that looks great, you bought the right car!! The common theme for most of the posts revolve around how hard your LS is driven and then complain about the time and money involved to fix it.

Keep up the great posts, thanks!!
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I don't dispute any of the above. However, I can tell you that even if you don't "beat on it" you will have coil failures and DCCV failures. You may also have transmission solenoid failures. I've had all of those, and I don't do foolish things with my LSes.
 
#1fordfan said:
Been visiting this site for some time and have picked up a ton of good information, Thanks!! Thought I could make a causal observation and possibly help out a few of the members.
I work for Ford and have driven some great cars over my lifetime, I am probably older than most of the members and would love to give a little advice on LS ownership.

The LS is not a sports car, just a pretty good attempt at a performance sedan by Lincoln.
If you beat it, it will break. If you take care of the car, your chances of expensive repairs will drop.
Doing donuts and burnouts are always bad for a car, dont care how much money you spent to upgrade components.
If you wanted a car with good gas mileage, dont buy an LS.
if you wanted an inexpensive car to operate, dont buy an LS.
If you wanted a sports car, dont buy an LS.

The more expensive a car is when it was new will determine how expensive it is to repair and keep in good shape.

If you are looking for a fun car that looks great, you bought the right car!! The common theme for most of the posts revolve around how hard your LS is driven and then complain about the time and money involved to fix it.

Keep up the great posts, thanks!!
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please - "Thought I could make a causal observation and possibly help out a few of the members"

was it really necessary to tell us

"The LS is not a sports car, just a pretty good attempt at a performance sedan by Lincoln.
If you beat it, it will break. If you take care of the car, your chances of expensive repairs will drop.
Doing donuts and burnouts are always bad for a car, dont care how much money you spent to upgrade components.
If you wanted a car with good gas mileage, dont buy an LS.
if you wanted an inexpensive car to operate, dont buy an LS.
If you wanted a sports car, dont buy an LS."


this is all useless information, this is all opinion, which you are entitled to, but this wont help anyone out
 
I've seen and heard of LS's getting 24mpg...is it that much of a gas hog? tell it to your mom's fullsize SUV....
 
From what I was told, the LS was created to directly compete with the Chrysler 300M. Both cars are very similar and have almost the exact same features; my ride prior to my LS was a 300M. The 300M's came standard with the 3.5L V6 pumping out ~260HP, had dual heated seats, dual power seats, in-dash 6 disk cd changer, slide-to-glide drivers seat for exiting the car, leather seats, shifter, and steering wheel, auto-stick....
 
lostsoul77 said:
From what I was told, the LS was created to directly compete with the Chrysler 300M. Both cars are very similar and have almost the exact same features; my ride prior to my LS was a 300M. The 300M's came standard with the 3.5L V6 pumping out ~260HP, had dual heated seats, dual power seats, in-dash 6 disk cd changer, slide-to-glide drivers seat for exiting the car, leather seats, shifter, and steering wheel, auto-stick....
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I thought the LS was developed as a domestic alternative to the 5-series BMW at a more attractive price point....and to target the younger boomer crowd who typically buys those (versus the Lincoln TC market) hence the "european style" engineering and handling. I recall the print and TV ads 10 years ago showed the LS on euro style twisty roads and they talked about euro-influence engineering, etc.
 
lsintoronto said:
I thought the LS was developed as a domestic alternative to the 5-series BMW at a more attractive price point....and to target the younger boomer crowd who typically buys those (versus the Lincoln TC market) hence the "european style" engineering and handling. I recall the print and TV ads 10 years ago showed the LS on euro style twisty roads and they talked about euro-influence engineering, etc.
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Yes, I too am pretty sure that they were aiming for BMW, and not Chrysler.
 
Some quotes for you:
"The stated purpose of the LS is to get 40-somethings to become Lincoln buyers. Lincoln wants to lure them away from the siren song of those sporty, status-building imports like Lexus, Mercedes, Audi and BMW. The strategy is apparently to offer a car with external dimensions and interior seating comparable to BMW 5-series and Mercedes E-class cars at prices similar to BMW 3-series and Mercedes C-class prices."

"The Lincoln LS enters production around the end of next year's first quarter at Ford's heavily revamped Wixom, Mich., assembly plant. Within a year, Ford hopes to sell it in at least 35 countries. Markets targeted range from Germany and Japan to Saudi Arabia and Argentina. It will introduce the Lincoln name in many of those countries and hopes to compete with cars ranging from the BMW 540i to the Lexus ES300. Ford quietly hopes to lure a few Mercedes owners with this upscale upstart"
 
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