Oh yeah! Nitrous for the win!! :D

[The Hotness]

So today I installed my zex kit, starting out with a 75 shot. I pulled into the bay at work and start going to town. Lines to run, wires to find, etc etc etc.

I tested it and plumes of nitrous shot out of the lines like plumes of glorious bluish furry!

Wet shot, but it didn't emit any fuel. Hmmm all points aside.. First things first..

Now that I have you enticed...


I didn't even spray because of the fuel not being apparent put everything back together started the car and it ran like absolute dog crap.

Drove to a buddies house with no power in SUPER limp mode. Rattling like a diesel truck, I pull the codes and we have...

1) IAT temp to high
2) O2 sensor bank 1 sensor 2
3) Cylinder 4 misfire
4) and the whopper Manufacturer Air/Fuel metering blah wtf? I don't even know what the last one means! MAF? I suppose?

I cleared codes went for the drive, and the only one that hasn't returned yet is the IAT.. Still ran like poop.

Any ideas anyone? Car ran like gravy previously and when checking for fuel leaks I ran for about 30secs with no intake but I find that hardly harmful. Of course I supposed no intake no MAF, no IAT run super rich take out cylinder 4 plug or coil and then foul the o2 sensor but really? Is this a possiblity, maybe in horrible luck land? but really?

Next stop pulling the battery cable and making sure things are cleared from the cars memory for GOOD. Then see where that puts me.

I love the looks of the lincoln only disliked it's lack of performance, but sorry to say to the FORD lovers out there... it's a pos. I told myself no more ford products after the Sable but atlas here I am.. 4 coil packs later.. Well this would be 5..



I am afraid to drive in high heat, cause all them plastic body clips would melt and then I would just have a pile of pieces with about 10 screws.

Ha ha! I love my Lincoln!
:dancefool


Oh yeah, and about that Zex not emitting fuel....

 

[gcwimmer]

Performance in in the eye of the beholder.

 

[glanga]

Performance in in the eye of the beholder.

Spoken like a true LS owner.

 

[XxbmxlsxX]

your not spraying through the maf are you? its a wet kit so you tapped onto your fuel pressure port on the fuel rail by removing the schrader valve and replacing it with an -an fitting right? what all did you remove while installing? running with no intake will cause a huge lean condition so could dump fuel into the cylinders. not a fan of zex kits the solenoid boxes seem to have a lot of problems(at least the ones ive seen people put in)ive never installed one. check your wires, then try hitting the zex box with a hammer to get the fuel solenoid to open. thats how a buddy of mine gets his to work on his 03 cobra. lol. i stick to good old nos solenoids with a micro switch , just more simplicity less problems.

 

[02LincLS]

im surprised it even ran without the intake, and it should have returned to normal as soon as the intake went back on. make sure you plugged all the hoses and wires back in tightly. as the others said, we need more details on what you did.
i'm not sure why you didn't get fuel. where did you tap into? did you wire the solenoid properly?
did you use colder plugs? did you get a progressive controller?

 

[JWerner2]

Without even the MAF the car would stall and not run.

 

[ILLS]

subscribing... where's the popcorn smilie?

 

[pektel]

Here you go, Rob. right click, save picture as, then add it anywhere

 

[The Hotness]

Spoken like a true LS owner.

Hahahaha!! Yes, some people come from a world that if it has 400hp then thats just "ok." Anything else just falls a little short. lol

your not spraying through the maf are you? its a wet kit so you tapped onto your fuel pressure port on the fuel rail by removing the schrader valve and replacing it with an -an fitting right? what all did you remove while installing? running with no intake will cause a huge lean condition so could dump fuel into the cylinders. not a fan of zex kits the solenoid boxes seem to have a lot of problems(at least the ones ive seen people put in)ive never installed one. check your wires, then try hitting the zex box with a hammer to get the fuel solenoid to open. thats how a buddy of mine gets his to work on his 03 cobra. lol. i stick to good old nos solenoids with a micro switch , just more simplicity less problems.

No spray has been close to my intake at this time, and no I have the nozzle way down river from there.

I tapped my fuel source by "hacking" into my crossover hose that connects the two rails and using a t. Been suggested on here before, so I rolled with it.

But I will definatly take a hammer to it and see if that will jump start it's heart, why not right? If that doesn't work, I was thinking of just buying a solenoid and rolling with that lol.

Pretty hard to hook up wrong; power, ground, and TPS sensor input.

im surprised it even ran without the intake, and it should have returned to normal as soon as the intake went back on. make sure you plugged all the hoses and wires back in tightly. as the others said, we need more details on what you did.
i'm not sure why you didn't get fuel. where did you tap into? did you wire the solenoid properly?
did you use colder plugs? did you get a progressive controller?

Yeah, I am surprised it runs at all sometimes. Yes the first thing I did was recheck my connections on the intake, repeatedly. over and over again, maybe get the "lucky wiggle".

But yes, no plugs yet because well I just installed it and haven't sprayed into my motor or intake. Just the atmosphere.

 

[JWerner2]

Should have sprayed it into a balloon.:shifty:

 

[The Hotness]

Without even the MAF the car would stall and not run.

Are you saying this educationally? Because the car is running "supposedly" with a bad MAF, bad o2 AND a cylinder 4 misfire.. But that's what the car says and it really I ain't that smart :shifty: (don't tell her I said that)

 

[The Hotness]

Should have sprayed it into a balloon.:shifty:

Er. sprayed what into a balloon?

never mind.. to save it from the atmosphere?

 

[JWerner2]

If the MAF is removed the car wont run. It will buck and stall and toss a code.

Sometimes just toss a code and stall.

Er. sprayed what into a balloon?

haha never mind.

 

[glanga]

If unmetered air is entering the car, the car will shut itself off and not run. If you start the car back up, it will immediately shut itself off again.

 

[The Hotness]

Then I have a pretty special car that just won't die. whoot!

Cause I can plug it in, or unplug it and it runs. (not very good though) lol Thats for sure, but none the less things reciprocate. Air/Fuel in, noxious emissions out.

But to me, this would be a telltale sign that the MAF has hit the end of it's life expectancy. You guys know your Lincolns, and I just know that 99% of cars will "run" without their sensor plugged in.

So if this is true then I better fix that run issue. Damn.

 

[Quik LS]

no quite. I have (on occasion) knocked a intercooler pipe off and out of it's coupling. Certainly it's noticable and could barely idle - but I was able to limp it/

 

[JWerner2]

I know when I got my KKM kit it came off a couple of times and the first round it "limped" or bucked and then shut off. After that if I gave it gas with it off, it shut down. Once it was reconnected and I made sure to disconnect the battery for safe sake it would run with it off, buck or limp as you say and then the cycle went all over again. Thats just my experience. I know Quick has more than me but.....

 

[The Hotness]

Run or don't run, it don't really matter. :|

I am trying to figure out what to do with my sick car. Really did all this go out, in just a few hours? Am I just gonna have to throw parts at this thing?!

 

[JWerner2]

My point is that if the car wont run like that its hard to believe that would have done damage.


I have a feeling a few people are holding out.


I never messed with Nitrous and if you think everything is installed properly I would just make sure for one last time its all connected properly and leave the battery disconnected over night.

 

[Quik LS]

I know when I got my KKM kit it came off a couple of times and the first round it "limped" or bucked and then shut off. After that if I gave it gas with it off, it shut down. Once it was reconnected and I made sure to disconnect the battery for safe sake it would run with it off, buck or limp as you say and then the cycle went all over again. Thats just my experience. I know Quick has more than me but.....

right - most of the time my tubing get knocked off post supercharger - so there is still some draw of air through the MAF - enough to lie to the PCM and keep me running. If you seperate completely between MAF and TB - and all the air going into the TB is not through the MAF - then your stuck - no air through MAF - no run.

 

[02LincLS]

throw a test light on your fuel solenoid, it may be on all the time? flooding the motor? It may also be mechanically stuck open, which a light won't show.
i tapped the crossover line for fuel as well but i replaced the whole hose with fuel injection hose. not sure how you did that without replacing the hose- its plastic inside.

 

[The Hotness]

UPDATE: I drove the car to work and the only code I got was for the cyclinder 4 misfire, later she threw the Manufactuer Air/Fuel metering code (of which I can only assume means maf) but no o2 code this time, and no IAT.. I will be taking the day off tomorrow to change plugs and throw in a new cylinder 4 coil Hopefully, that will solve most of my issues.

throw a test light on your fuel solenoid, it may be on all the time? flooding the motor? It may also be mechanically stuck open, which a light won't show.
i tapped the crossover line for fuel as well but i replaced the whole hose with fuel injection hose. not sure how you did that without replacing the hose- its plastic inside.

Pretty simple, I sniped it and flared it out a bit with a flat head screwdriver and then placed the T.

Oh yes, can't be flooding the motor because I never connected my nitrous connections to my intake, they are just to the atmosphere. I hit the WOT switch and no release of fuel occurs. I hear solenoid(s) click, and only nitrous came out when there was some in the lines, now there is nothing.

I thought about checking the pressure (as in hose in a bucket cause common' who has a pressure tester?), because maybe there is a bubble in the system from depressurization. When I depressured the system I hit the schrader with a screw driver and to my surprise very minimal released..

Also, I seem to be having some pinging at this time.. :|

 

[Quik LS]

There is very little pressure in the fuel lines shortly after the car is turned off. I pull the fuel line disconnect, or swap the fuel filter without depressurizing all the time - the pressure drops quickly.

I always though the you should tap the fuel line before the pressure regulator - so that the regulator's attempt to keep 40psi at the injector nozzle is not interferred with by another fuel flow.

 

[JWerner2]

There is very little pressure in the fuel lines shortly after the car is turned off. I pull the fuel line disconnect, or swap the fuel filter without depressurizing all the time - the pressure drops quickly.

Man your good. Myself and I know others have got to admit that if we do that we get a face full of gas!

 

[The Hotness]

I always though the you should tap the fuel line before the pressure regulator - so that the regulator's attempt to keep 40psi at the injector nozzle is not interferred with by another fuel flow.

I too was thinking the same thing good sir, but I figured since others have done it without issue I should be fine too..

On one thought though, I am one unlucky bastard.