latest/greatest intake

I just went and bought 1000 hose clamps and 500 pieces of rubber hose. I will be putting them on ebay for 49.99 for all the LS guys with the filter falling off. For an additional 400.00 I will add in a polished aluminum intake or a stainless steel intake tube. Sorry Ken, but when I see a way to make some money, IM DOING IT. Or if you are having this problem, you can get off your lazy asz and fix it for 5.00 bucks like someone else did, instead of giving constructive criticism on something that he did not design, did not patent, and by the way made it possible for us LS guys to even be able to get an intake tube. Maybe ILLS you should design, patent, and manufacture one. Im sure if you are a performance shop, then you should be able to do something like that, or better yet, how about you sell them and add in the extra required parts for free. Then they can ship them to you first, add in your extra parts it needs(you foot the bill), then you pay for shipping to its final destination, (you foot the bill). Its not like they cost enough already.
 
I just went and bought 1000 hose clamps and 500 pieces of rubber hose. I will be putting them on ebay for 49.99 for all the LS guys with the filter falling off. For an additional 400.00 I will add in a polished aluminum intake or a stainless steel intake tube. Sorry Ken, but when I see a way to make some money, IM DOING IT. Or if you are having this problem, you can get off your lazy asz and fix it for 5.00 bucks like someone else did, instead of giving constructive criticism on something that he did not design, did not patent, and by the way made it possible for us LS guys to even be able to get an intake tube. Maybe ILLS you should design, patent, and manufacture one. Im sure if you are a performance shop, then you should be able to do something like that, or better yet, how about you sell them and add in the extra required parts for free. Then they can ship them to you first, add in your extra parts it needs(you foot the bill), then you pay for shipping to its final destination, (you foot the bill). Its not like they cost enough already.

+1:lol:

That's the biggest lie of them all. "I don't lie"...
:shifty: :N

Now who's is bigger???..........

Is it me or did he already post most of this?:confused:
 
I love how it is just the children that are in here trying to cause problems. Like I said before, this is a technical discussion, if you want to take cheapshots then do it elswhere. If you want to be a big boy, how about you belly up to the bar here and have a reasonable discussion. Unless you would rather continue to present yourself like am adolescent?

I challenge anyone to actually have an adult conversation on this matter. No cheap-shots, no verbal attacks, no childish remarks. Just a reasonable mature discussion on this matter. You can do that can't you? There have been a few people who actually contributed to this thread but the personal attacks from people like elliot ness and decibels just wipe that away with their childish fits.

I know this is the internet and people tend to hold themselves to a lower standard of decency but there is bound to be some people in here that are actually able to have a mature discussion, whether in agreement or not. I am up to it, are you?
 
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Take a look around just like I said buddy, the proof is in the products pictures!

Like I said if you had owned some kind of real shop you wouldnt even need to be posting stuff like this at all.

Im not lying, I dont know much about mechanincs but I have some common sense and I am obviously better at problem solving than you.

PLUSS I DONT LIE.

I think of ways all day long to make thigs better but I am not a mechanic so some of these ideas I dont know if they will ever work, now you should be doing the same if your not your lying again and since you are a mechanic you should look at it and in like five seconds realize this is what it needs and thats what Im going to do, add a damn 5$ part.

Another thing is you should deal with so many customers with problems like that daily, thers lots of parts in this game made to fit cars that need some mods some way or another right out the box. You should realize that its not exactly some one like Kens fault right off the bat and understand that there may not be much he can do.

Im not debateing and Im not no kid but Im just giving my 2 cents on a topic that you are driving way far off its heading.

Im not even going into the other stuff said at all, I know and I have seen some kits come with just this and that and as far as the MAF thing goes yah you see I do a search on the internet and read cause I am trying to learn as much as I can cause I dont know much and would like to learn what you obviously have been born with. But anyway what makes it so hard for it to be made in the same specifics? You sound realy bad there I can show some shots for quite a few kits with that added in.

One thing I will admit that I have noticed is more and more kits are coming with the clamps but I still will dissagree that some just dont.





Sorry I missed this post due to my double post.


Elliot if you do not want to believe that I do what I do then that is your business. Call up the STS Turbo regional sales manager (Vernon Hills) and ask himm if STS has a powerdealer named KBX Performance based out of Lake Villa, IL... Simple enough. ;)

The problem is not that a customer cannot fix this. As I said, as you said and as Ken said it is probably anywhere around a $5-$10 fix in total which is nothing. The problem lies where the recommended installation of the MAFS onto the tube is totally wrong, has caused problems, and will continue to do so. A customer can fix the problem but not all customers know enough to realize that there may be a problem until it is too late. It is the dealers duty to ensure that they sell a product that is not faulty or configured improperly. If they are informed of something amiss then it is their responsibility to make sure it is taken care of through the company they deal with, or taken care of at the dealers level themself. Some companies do not want to hear any feedback, in which case some of us dealers have dropped our contracts with them. The latter of what I mentioned doesn't happen too often, but on occasion it does.

As for your question regarding why companies cannot get the tube sizes right so that no tuning has to take place? Well some do bother to ensure that they design a CAI that will not affect a MAFS calibration with a slot-in meter or bolted in old style meter electronics. However, it is usually beneficial to performance to make the tube just a little bit bigger for more power gains. Due to performance being the goal, the manufacturers do not really worry about the MAFS calibration being slightly thrown off as they include documentation stating so as a warning to the customer. Also, most customers that bother to get a CAI will be very likely to pick up a Predator, Xcal2, Livewire, or other tuner or chip for a tune anyways.

My shop primarily focuses on late model fuel injected forced induction vehicles. I own 3 Fomoco vehicles, including what looks to be the fastest 3.9 Lincoln LS in the country, and am a big Mustang enthusiast so I tend to concentrate on more Ford vehicles than anything else. I do work to other makes of cars too, but nowhere near as much as the Ford line. Of all the CAI's I have installed onto my customers, friends, and own vehicles not a single one didn't come with all components needed for install. Even the JLT CAI's that I have installed came with all the stuff. I also have business and personal ties with other owners of performance shops around the country that work with other makes of vehicles and notice the stuff they work with. The kits for the various GM vehicles that I have seen have come as complete units too.
 
I love how it is just the children that are in here trying to cause problems. Like I said before, this is a technical discussion, if you want to take cheapshots then do it elswhere. If you want to be a big boy, how about you belly up to the bar here and have a reasonable discussion. Unless you would rather continue to present yourself like am adolescent?

I challenge anyone to actually have an adult conversation on this matter. No cheap-shots, no verbal attacks, no childish remarks. Just a reasonable mature discussion on this matter. You can do that can't you? There have been a few people who actually contributed to this thread but the personal attacks from people like elliot ness and decibels just wipe that away with their childish fits.

I know this is the internet and people tend to hold themselves to a lower standard of decency but there is bound to be some people in here that are actually able to have a mature discussion, whether in agreement or not. I am up to it, are you?


Nuff said, the thing is you challenged a reputable dealer, in fact the only one we basicly have that we can trust for our cars.

Now, there is no way that the MAF cant be adapted to the intake tube, I will stick to that and everything else I say EXCEPT for the cheap shots towards you. I will be adult, appologize and take those back.


As far as the MAF beeing adapted onto the tube itself, I will be seeing the guy that made mine and I will ask if he can make me a new tube like this. I have seen many of them out there and I realy cant see it beeing that hard to make something like this. Think of the design and shape of the factory tubeing itself. It is way different than the aftermarket tubes shape and design so what would be so hard to make it the same size from the front of the MAF core to the rear of the tube where it fits to the TB. And as far as the bore goes, the one from LSK seems to be smaller in bore if you ask me anyway. It actually seems pretty damn close to the bore of the MAF core. The stock tube fits over the core while the one from LSK fits into the core.

Here is a kit for a STI
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Note: This is one of those kits that apears to have all the parts needed.
 
ASMI will start to put two couplers in with the polished aluminum intake tube kits. Here is their email to me this morning:

Ken, We started putting two blue couplers with orders starting last Monday. I will keep you informed about changing to the intake tube. We raised your price $1.00 which is our cost.
Regards,
Michael

So, the price will stay the same.
 
Sorry bro, Ill have to give my input on the topic since I got involved.

For that Gen LS I would suggest the LSK's ASMI setup with that coupler. The filters you can experiment with your self. I use a Blitz filter but its about expired and I am going to try another filter next. I might go with a HKS filter in that diameter next. The KKM filter and all is good, I used one at first, sold it with the adapter to a friend and as far as I know he's still using it.
For the tube itself I got lucky and live by a shop that can make them and exhausts so I had one made cheap and its fine. Like I said they are all so simple their is really no way of going wrong but the kit on LSK next to having one made is all you'll find for that year.
 
I love how it is just the children that are in here trying to cause problems. Like I said before, this is a technical discussion, if you want to take cheapshots then do it elswhere. If you want to be a big boy, how about you belly up to the bar here and have a reasonable discussion. Unless you would rather continue to present yourself like am adolescent?

I challenge anyone to actually have an adult conversation on this matter. No cheap-shots, no verbal attacks, no childish remarks. Just a reasonable mature discussion on this matter. You can do that can't you? There have been a few people who actually contributed to this thread but the personal attacks from people like elliot ness and decibels just wipe that away with their childish fits.

I know this is the internet and people tend to hold themselves to a lower standard of decency but there is bound to be some people in here that are actually able to have a mature discussion, whether in agreement or not. I am up to it, are you?


Little kids, any kind of real businessman, would have personally emailed or PMd another business man on how to improve his or her product. I would take it as a personal insult if someone came into my place of business and in front of my customers, told me how to make my products better. You say you own your own shop, thats great, but how would you like it if I came in there and publicly scrutinized a product that you sell, especially if you did not even make it. Whos the kid now. "I know this is the internet and people tend to hold themselves to a lower standard of decency"
 
Has anyone seen this so-called "fastest LS in the country"? I remember a thread from a couple weeks ago where Quik was asking for proof of this, to no avail.
 
My shop primarily focuses on late model fuel injected forced induction vehicles. I own 3 Fomoco vehicles, including what looks to be the fastest 3.9 Lincoln LS in the country, and am a big Mustang enthusiast so I tend to concentrate on more Ford vehicles than anything else. I do work to other makes of cars too, but nowhere near as much as the Ford line. Of all the CAI's I have installed onto my customers, friends, and own vehicles not a single one didn't come with all components needed for install. Even the JLT CAI's that I have installed came with all the stuff. I also have business and personal ties with other owners of performance shops around the country that work with other makes of vehicles and notice the stuff they work with. The kits for the various GM vehicles that I have seen have come as complete units too.

the FASTEST LS IN THE COUNTRY, but no1 has ever seen it nor has he ever enlightened us on his project.
 
Oh, I didn't even wanna take the time with that, but what about the other post a few weeks ago?

Id love to see this. I think its cool that someone here has a shop all of his own and can put so much into this site for the LS seeing how it has no support besides LSK. I mean if I had a shop I would be supporting the car I love so much all the way. This would be a great opportunity to post adds and links and such in my sig as well, may help my business, if I had one.

Hell, if I had a forced induction shop I know Quick wouldnt be the only SC'ed LS.
 
Yes point us in the direction of this thread.

I have posted several times as having the fastest Gen1 N/A LS on here and no ones argued. I also run with the fastest Gen2 N/A, and with power adder.
 
Now, there is no way that the MAF cant be adapted to the intake tube, I will stick to that and everything else I say EXCEPT for the cheap shots towards you. I will be adult, appologize and take those back.


As far as the MAF beeing adapted onto the tube itself, I will be seeing the guy that made mine and I will ask if he can make me a new tube like this. I have seen many of them out there and I realy cant see it beeing that hard to make something like this. Think of the design and shape of the factory tubeing itself. It is way different than the aftermarket tubes shape and design so what would be so hard to make it the same size from the front of the MAF core to the rear of the tube where it fits to the TB. And as far as the bore goes, the one from LSK seems to be smaller in bore if you ask me anyway. It actually seems pretty damn close to the bore of the MAF core. The stock tube fits over the core while the one from LSK fits into the core.


Elliot ness ls, I appreciate your effort in being more reaonable in here. I know we can all have a good discussion about this.

One thing I am curious on is that you said that "there is no way the MAF can't be adapted to the intake tube"... I am curious what I said to appear like I was contradicting that. Maybe I am just misunderstanding what you mean here. Please clarify. Are you talking about the LSK tube fitment itself or are you talking about the older (non slot-in) MAF electronics setup being placed into a new tube with a metal adapter welded to it?
 
Like the one in the shot I posted. The unit itself comes off of its core or housing, what ever the proper word for it is and sits in the tube like it does on its core or what have you.

You say it as if it cant be done at all, or even as if there is no way to make a new core but with out the need for the adapter for the filter on one end and a clamp made on the other to clamp on the tube like those crapy Spectere ones from autozone.
 
You new here?

Jason, they got it mixed up. They are talking about my LS. I don't know how they started saying Gen 1 LS. I told them I have the fastest 3.9 LS in the country.

The question they asked is does ILLS have the fastest 3.9 LS in the country??? Jason, since you know me and have seen my car run in person can you please answer that since some people do not believe what I say.

Also what project am I just about to start with the LS here very soon?

Sorry to put you on the spot like this but apparently my word isn't good enough. :)
 
Yes point us in the direction of this thread.

I have posted several times as having the fastest Gen1 N/A LS on here and no ones argued. I also run with the fastest Gen2 N/A, and with power adder.


But I thought your best friend ILLS just said his was the fastest. Make up your minds.
 
Oh, I didn't even wanna take the time with that, but what about the other post a few weeks ago?

Id love to see this. I think its cool that someone here has a shop all of his own and can put so much into this site for the LS seeing how it has no support besides LSK. I mean if I had a shop I would be supporting the car I love so much all the way. This would be a great opportunity to post adds and links and such in my sig as well, may help my business, if I had one.

Hell, if I had a forced induction shop I know Quick wouldnt be the only SC'ed LS.



I do not post any links in my sig because I am not an authorized vendor here and that would be considered indecent and just plain not allowable.

BTW, Quik WILL be the only supercharged LS... ;) .......because I am going turbo'd. :cool:
 

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