my 2005 ls sport vs 2008 335i....and more

Since I am a gentleman..... When you explain yourself how you you raced a automatic STi, then i will exert my experinces.
 
Lincoln Zero, the LS is known for having transmission issues and the brakes aren't too great.

Yeah you could make it pretty fast with forced induction but how reliable will it really be and for how long? Id rather get an STR. Better brakes, transmission and suspension for the same price as an 06 LS.

A stock STR can run with a 5.0 mustang for half the price.
 
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I may be a newb here but I don't BS. Not gonna find an automatic STi anywhere but AUS apparently. To offer the automatic there didn't take anything special on Subaru's part; the same transmission was always available behind the 2.5 turbo in the Legacy GT.

FWIW, my Superchipped 01 Grand Marquis (ran 9.9 @ 73 in the 1/8th) outran a stock 02 WRX 5spd from a 40 roll. Without his AWD advantage the ol' Marquis pulled steadily. From 60-90 it was a veritable beat down.


When I slowed down I looked over for a glimpse at the driver (with a smirk on my face) and got a 3 second glimpse as he flew by (we were up at 160kms when I called it off)
I looked through the passenger window (I was on the right) and saw the driver with both his hands on the wheel (I assumed its an auto with pedals) and I wasn't aware in North america, the sti is stick only.
The driver was asian, spiked hair, and had a pissed look on his face, his friend was staring at him laughing..

After I was behind him, I got a look at the model. STI in bright red, on the right.

Thats all I remember from that.....
 
well even when you're driving a stick you're supposed to keep both hands on the steering wheel and only let go to change gears.

And i'd imagine at those speeds most people would want to hang on to their steering wheels with both hands.
 
------ and the brakes aren't too great.

I don't know...... Stoptech could only manage about an 18' shorter stopping distance from 60 than the stock brakes (109' vs 127'). That's just over a car length. While 109' is impressive, so is 127' stock. Granted 18' could be the difference between an accident or not, but the brakes certainly are much better than "not too great".

Kind of like Magnaflow could only manage 5hp over the stock '03 exhaust.
 
I don't know...... Stoptech could only manage about an 18' shorter stopping distance from 60 than the stock brakes (109' vs 127'). That's just over a car length. While 109' is impressive, so is 127' stock. Granted 18' could be the difference between an accident or not, but the brakes certainly are much better than "not too great".

Kind of like Magnaflow could only manage 5hp over the stock '03 exhaust.

The stoptechs aren't for stopping distance they're mainly for tracking the vehicle. Repeated hits of the stock brakes and they suck compared to other vehicles I've driven. Brembos can take a lot more abuse or even the 355mm jag brakes are much better.
 
Those guys that told you all those things you think are possible, are the same type of guys who made promises to Alax. You know how long he was without it? (Alax, if you are reading this, i apologize for bringing it up)

No worries, I learned my lesson :(.....A year and some change without her by the way, for those who were wondering.



the white LS is ugly :D

Haha, I hope its not mine you're talking about :p
 
well even when you're driving a stick you're supposed to keep both hands on the steering wheel and only let go to change gears.

And i'd imagine at those speeds most people would want to hang on to their steering wheels with both hands.

I dont know... I've seen this guy drive alot and have never seen him use two hands...

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The stoptechs aren't for stopping distance they're mainly for tracking the vehicle. Repeated hits of the stock brakes and they suck compared to other vehicles I've driven. Brembos can take a lot more abuse or even the 355mm jag brakes are much better.


What do you mean by "they suck"? I have autocrossed my LS (as well as the guy that designed the suspension, Jonathon Crocker) with factory brakes and never had a braking issue. They didn't fade at all nor glazed over. There is a reason the calipers are aluminum and the fronts are dual-piston.
 
What do you mean by "they suck"? I have autocrossed my LS (as well as the guy that designed the suspension, Jonathon Crocker) with factory brakes and never had a braking issue. They didn't fade at all nor glazed over. There is a reason the calipers are aluminum and the fronts are dual-piston.

They leave a lot to be desired. Im sure im not the only one who feels this way.

I find that theres too much pedal travel and they just dont have that initial bite like they should. For this reason im upgrading the fronts to 355mm's and ceramic pads all around along with ss lines.

We just did a brake job on my ladys chrysler 300 and those brakes stop on a dime. The rear rotors on it aren't even vented. The front pads are much larger than the LS pads. As soon as the pedal is pressed the car slows down and pushes you back in the seat.
 
I am with BlackLS06 on this. Mine had good amount of fade, even with brand new OEM rotors and pads.
They would start fading after 8 to 12 hard braking/spirited driving. They would heat up fast just driving through moving, but heavy traffic
 
I think i will eventually buy an XF. Seems like it fixes all thats wrong with the LS. Now to work on getting a promotion.
 
to all the people posting the specs from car and driver, that doesnt relate to real life at all. we didnt race from a dead start, we raced from 50km his had paddle shifters and a cai. I have a tune, cold air, exhaust, and was running in sst.

Anyways what kind of motor could I fit? I seen the lincoln lsx, I would LOVE to just go that route and dump a powerful engine to it with a new tranny? any options. turbo or supercharging it doesnt really seem worth it.
 
to all the people posting the specs from car and driver, that doesnt relate to real life at all. we didnt race from a dead start, we raced from 50km his had paddle shifters and a cai. I have a tune, cold air, exhaust, and was running in sst.

Anyways what kind of motor could I fit? I seen the lincoln lsx, I would LOVE to just go that route and dump a powerful engine to it with a new tranny? any options. turbo or supercharging it doesnt really seem worth it.

Do you want the electronics to work?
 
Irrelevant relevant post:

Left the bowling alley today and my buddy lined up next to me at a stop light. It was on. Light turns green and I hear his tires chirp, so then I decided to mash it, a slight head start. Gave her hell till I was a car length ahead, didn't look but I think I was doing about 55 or so in a 35 and eased off. He then proceeded to beat me to the next light in a Cobalt. Let it be known, the LS does not stand a chance against a bare bones 4 door Chevy Cobalt.
 
Do you want the electronics to work?


I could careless about electronics. Probably gonna gut it and roll cage it. like i said this is not my daily driver, I want to do something like quick or lsx did, but take it a step further. like mixed with the guy who gutted his and roll caged it but never did anything else. I want to go all out. i want something fast and unique. I have the money to dump into it so dont lecture me plz lol.
 
Why anyone would waste $15k on modding an LS is beyond me. That sum easily exceeds what 95% of all LSes are worth. Parts are also getting hard to find, some are even discontinued, not to mention how expensive they all are.
 
It was a highly relevant question LS4 asked. And who in the heck lectured you? I am missing something.

But seriously Grimm, there have been a lot of new members come in and "say" they are about to do something unique. And guess what most regular members know? It never comes to life for whatever combination of reasons. It would be really nice to see someone step all the way up as member Dwiggy(now there is a thread you should be reading like road map) did so go for it and report back with a build thread if you decide to follow through with it.
 
to all the people posting the specs from car and driver, that doesnt relate to real life at all.

No, but it does show a comarison between the two cars using a standardized comparison method. I mean, I shouldn't be able to stomp on a Corvette with a pickup truck on a winding mountain road either, but that doesn't mean I haven't done it. I'm sure if the Vette driver had known how to drive his car I'd not have been able to do it, but that's not real life. Few sports car owners actually know how to handle their cars, and that's real life.
 
I could careless about electronics. Probably gonna gut it and roll cage it. like i said this is not my daily driver, I want to do something like quick or lsx did, but take it a step further. like mixed with the guy who gutted his and roll caged it but never did anything else. I want to go all out. i want something fast and unique. I have the money to dump into it so dont lecture me plz lol.

So what you want is an LS bodied drag racer, right. Quick's was his daily driver which is how it meet it's demise.

I'm not lecturing, I just know a little about how intertwined EVERYTHING is in modern cars. This isn't the 50's or 60's anymore where you just remove the old engine, install the new, hook up the linkage and away you go.
 
I could careless about electronics. Probably gonna gut it and roll cage it. like i said this is not my daily driver, I want to do something like quick or lsx did, but take it a step further. like mixed with the guy who gutted his and roll caged it but never did anything else. I want to go all out. i want something fast and unique. I have the money to dump into it so dont lecture me plz lol.



If you want I can solve all your problems,(maybe add a few new ones...) The LSX is currently living in my town and for sale AGAIN,, If you want I can get him your phone number.
 

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