What is the cheapest way to add HP to an 03+ LS8?

one thing tho... i have an 04... i looked under my hood and attached to the current air filter is one small and one a little bigger .. i dont know how to explain it.... its two 'hoses' but not... like plastic pieces connected to what looks like the top of the radiator.. its a long peice of plastic that sits on top of the radiator.. i dont see this in your pic.. is it just the diff of year? it must be of some importance seeing that its attached by plastic to the "thing".. ill attach a pic. does this come off or does the typhoon connect to this?

Those plastic peices are intake resonators. The quiet down the sound for all the old people who buy LS'. The typhoon replaces all of it. Dont even worry about them. If it were ME, I would get the K&N that is plastic (ABS)(whatever it is). IT wont absorb as much heat as the metal one. Just my opinion.
 
Those plastic peices are intake resonators. The quiet down the sound for all the old people who buy LS'. The typhoon replaces all of it. Dont even worry about them. If it were ME, I would get the K&N that is plastic (ABS)(whatever it is). IT wont absorb as much heat as the metal one. Just my opinion.
Plus too, the K&N 57 series is CARB exempt which is a plus if you are living in an emissions communist country like California! That's all in good fun now!
 
Ken, I have already made items better than that and for cheaper as well. Take a look at KKM's Gen1 LS kit. You get a billet aluminum MAFS adapter, a filter, some bolts, and a hose clamp for close to $100. You can order the billet MAFS adapter off the net (not from ebay either) for $30. You can get a filter for $25-$30 and the rest for a few bucks at the local hardware store. Not worth the price for what you get.

I know I can make something better and I have; matter of fact. The reason why I will not offer anything in this case is because K&N actually is doing it right. Their kits may cost more but they are built from quality pieces and you get what you pay for in a CAI system not just a MAFS adapter and filter.

Ken I do not expect you to understand any of this as you just sell this stuff and are not required to have any real understanding of how to build it or piece something together from scratch. I do suggest that you do a little research on the cost to benefit ratio before carrying a product. It will do your customers some good. KKM's systems are minimal and halfways done; that is the truth anyway you slice it.

I understand what ILLS is saying. For someone who can build their own stuff (you and I :)) its quite expensive However, for the average person isnt going to be able to build one. So for not TOOOO much money they can modify their car and not spend much. I see both sides.:runaway:
 
"is there anywhere i can get the K&N 57 Series Aircharger Intake Kit cheaper than $269.99?" :dancefool
 
I expected a response like this. As for a cost/benefit ratio, I don't hear anyone complaining about the kits other than you.

Ken, that is your opinion and I have mine. I do not believe you get much for what you pay for with the KKM system. The K&N is different.



When you make a statement that the KKM kits are junk then you don't back anything up other than YOUR opinion. Give some concrete data, dyno's and the like. When you come on here and give your opinion that it is junk then you should at least say why. Have you compared the KKM units to the "cheap" systems you are talking about? If so, let's see it.

In this case I was not approaching this from a performance standpoint otherwise I would have mentioned power differences. I am not even going there, though I probably could. I am approaching this from a get what you pay for standpoint.


Also, when someone buys the KKM kit they get the whole item to install it. What you are saying is that someone has to buy an adapter kit, then a filter then a clamp and so on. I'm sure that someone has a cheaper widget A than Bob's widget B down the street. However, calling it a piece of junk doesn't make it better or worse. It is only your opinion stating as such.

If a person chooses to do so, they could piece together their own CAI system like the one KKM makes for the Gen1 LS for much cheaper than what KKM expects them to pay. Looks and quality will be identical as well so your widget A and B talk does not really apply here.

If you want to start selling your "performance" items on here...pony up the cash to be a Vendor member and be done with it. If not, then you have no right to tell an LvC member that an item a FULL, PAID and RESPECTED vendor member sells is junk. It seems you are the only one ever complaining about it. I'm sick of reading about it on here.

Well Ken apparently I struck a chord with you here. That is too bad that you take personal offense to my assessment of KKM products. I directed my comments towards KKM not you. I do not know why you are dragging yourself into this. It is obvious that I do not have some sort of agenda with you (as the impression I get from you) otherwise I would have said K&N products (the other CAI you sell) were crap too. That is not the case though. K&N makes a quality product for the LS and I back it up. And another thing. What does me becoming a vendor on here have anything to do with my ability to give my assessment as to the worth of that KKM CAI? I don't know exactly where you are going with that one.

Have I posted in your Turbo thread stating that is junk? I have the maturity to know when to keep my mouth shut about someone's car or the like. You NEVER see me bash someones car regardless of how ridiculous it may be. That is not very respectable to that member.

There is a difference between me giving my assessment of a product, which is well within any member's rights on this board last I checked, and bashing someone's car. Like I said, I gave my assessment of the KKM product and I stand by it and that is well within my rights as a member here.

My recommendation as an LvC Staff Member and Moderator is that if you can not be mature on this forum maybe you need to go somewhere else. I will not have this discussion with you again.


Ken, if member's here cannot give their firsthand advice to others in here then what good is a forum? It is apparent that you take personal issue with what I said. That is fine as disagreements are common on boards like this but when you talk about "you need to go somewhere else" all I see is a vendor trying to censor someone from giving their assessment of a product. How does this help some of these members with less knowledge if the are only allowed to be exposed to one side of the story. I do not see why you seem to take this so personally Ken. I didn't bring you into the picture at all. I was talking about KKM products. The way I see it I am doing some of these member's a favor by providing them with all the information on this stuff. If they still want to pick a KKM item up afterwards then that is their decision and I am fine with that.
 
I understand what ILLS is saying. For someone who can build their own stuff (you and I :)) its quite expensive However, for the average person isnt going to be able to build one. So for not TOOOO much money they can modify their car and not spend much. I see both sides.:runaway:



I do see where you are going there and I believe you do have a valid point mostly. The one thing is that with the Gen1 LS CAI that KKM makes there is no construction or fabrication that needs to be done to put your own together. The hardest part for anyone in here would be to find the billet aluminum MAFS adapter that has the bolt pattern fitting the LS MAFS. Even that is not terribly hard for most when they do a little looking around.

Now when you get into more complex CAI's then that is where I 100% agree with you that for some people it is feasible to build their own, while others may not be able.
 
Im going to back up ILLS on this one. You cant take anything personal. He is just explaining what he has witnessed. I would do the same if it were me. Being a tuner, Im sure he has seen his share of crappy products vs. quality ones.
by the way.... I meant ENexpensive not expensive in my last post. Hope you understood ILLS.
 
Ken, that is your opinion and I have mine. I do not believe you get much for what you pay for with the KKM system. The K&N is different.





In this case I was not approaching this from a performance standpoint otherwise I would have mentioned power differences. I am not even going there, though I probably could. I am approaching this from a get what you pay for standpoint.




If a person chooses to do so, they could piece together their own CAI system like the one KKM makes for the Gen1 LS for much cheaper than what KKM expects them to pay. Looks and quality will be identical as well so your widget A and B talk does not really apply here.



Well Ken apparently I struck a chord with you here. That is too bad that you take personal offense to my assessment of KKM products. I directed my comments towards KKM not you. I do not know why you are dragging yourself into this. It is obvious that I do not have some sort of agenda with you (as the impression I get from you) otherwise I would have said K&N products (the other CAI you sell) were crap too. That is not the case though. K&N makes a quality product for the LS and I back it up. And another thing. What does me becoming a vendor on here have anything to do with my ability to give my assessment as to the worth of that KKM CAI? I don't know exactly where you are going with that one.



There is a difference between me giving my assessment of a product, which is well within any member's rights on this board last I checked, and bashing someone's car. Like I said, I gave my assessment of the KKM product and I stand by it and that is well within my rights as a member here.




Ken, if member's here cannot give their firsthand advice to others in here then what good is a forum? It is apparent that you take personal issue with what I said. That is fine as disagreements are common on boards like this but when you talk about "you need to go somewhere else" all I see is a vendor trying to censor someone from giving their assessment of a product. How does this help some of these members with less knowledge if the are only allowed to be exposed to one side of the story. I do not see why you seem to take this so personally Ken. I didn't bring you into the picture at all. I was talking about KKM products. The way I see it I am doing some of these member's a favor by providing them with all the information on this stuff. If they still want to pick a KKM item up afterwards then that is their decision and I am fine with that.
You brought me into this because you were trashing an item I sell as a vendor for KKM. I have every right to defend it because if I thought it was junk I wouldn't sell it. Ever notice the items I DON'T sell on my website? This is because I feel some items are not quality enough to be on a luxury sedan. This goes for the $159 HID kits that you've seen on here. I don't sell those kits just because I feel that you "normally" get what you pay for when it comes to something like that. Are those bad kits? I don't know but after seeing some members have problems with them that's all I needed to know.

I'll say it again, you are the ONLY person stating that the KKM kits are "halfazzed piece of junk". That is unacceptable on every level regardless if you think it is a "censored" item or not. If you are an expert in your field as you state you are where is all of the credibility for calling something junk. I still haven't seen or read anything you have written on here to contradict it otherwise. That's like me calling the turbo you are putting together junk as compared to the supercharger without any proof of either system. Show me something that says the KKM induction kits are junk and that will be the end of it.
 
"Show me something that says the KKM induction kits are junk and that will be the end of it."

im interested in this as well.
 
If you want to go cheap but good a CAI can be done for $30-35.00.
I just cut down my stock airbox carefully which leaves just enough lip at the narrowest point to fit a large universal cone filter from Autozone or Pep Boys.
I cut off the baffles(2nd pic) cut some plugs out of the plastic and capped the holes using adhesive and some short screws to keep the plugs from seperating over time from heat.
Used a couple of long electrical ties to secure the filter so it doesn't move around and slip off the snout.
You have to be pretty handy to do all this but it looks ok and sounds real sweet with a definite power gain. Make sure you remove the MAF sensor before cutting up the stock airbox so as to not damage it.

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Im going to back up ILLS on this one. You cant take anything personal. He is just explaining what he has witnessed. I would do the same if it were me. Being a tuner, Im sure he has seen his share of crappy products vs. quality ones.
by the way.... I meant ENexpensive not expensive in my last post. Hope you understood ILLS.


I gotcha there with the inexpensive thing. No problem. ;)
 
You brought me into this because you were trashing an item I sell as a vendor for KKM. I have every right to defend it because if I thought it was junk I wouldn't sell it.

Defending a product you sell is one thing but when you tell me that I can just leave the site (aka threatening me to essentially shut up or leave) then I see that as going far beyond simply defending a product.

I'll say it again, you are the ONLY person stating that the KKM kits are "halfazzed piece of junk". That is unacceptable on every level regardless if you think it is a "censored" item or not. If you are an expert in your field as you state you are where is all of the credibility for calling something junk. I still haven't seen or read anything you have written on here to contradict it otherwise. That's like me calling the turbo you are putting together junk as compared to the supercharger without any proof of either system. Show me something that says the KKM induction kits are junk and that will be the end of it.


Ken did you ever stop to think that the reason I am the only one on this site saying that about the KKM products is because I am one of the few on this site that actually knows this stuff inside out and backwards enough to make that educated of a comment? I make custom parts, turbochargers, superchargers, nitrous oxide systems, exhaust systems, CAI's and tune vehicle as well as many other things for a living so I know what is a good system that is worth the money and what is not. Whether you see it as me blowing my own horn or not, I happen to be one of the few here that actually has the experience and ability to make such a statement about KKM's CAI kits and back it up with reason.

You have made a repeated claim that I didn't substantiate my claims of "KKM being junk". Did you read my last post? I actually posted the substantiating information there. To keep things easy for everyone I will post it here again. I consider KKM to be junk from a get what you pay for standpoint. I will give a parallel example so hopefully you will get a better idea of what I mean:

I am into metal milling and am about to get into small foundry custom metal casting here soon. There is a metal mill named the Micromill out there that only cost about $400 from Harbor Freight. There are also other brand of mills out there from Bridgeport and whatnot that are much higher quality and cost thousands of dollars too. If you look at the Micro mill it is an ok unit. Nothing super special but for $400 it is not bad because you at least get a mill even though it does have a small motor and plastic gears. But if HF decided to charge $800 for that same mill and people had the same problems as they did before they would call it a piece of junk. Usually the term "junk" and a products price go hand in hand. If you get a microwave for $1 and it actually kind of works then it is a STEAL. If you get the same microwave and are charged $200 and it still only works half decent you will call it a piece of junk. The same principle applies to the KKM CAI too. If KKM sold it for less then it would be a good deal and I would not comment on it at all. But when you only get a few common pieces and are being charged $100 then that is when the "get what you pay for" factor comes in. Comparatively speaking that is when it is "junk" because for the price it is.


That's like me calling the turbo you are putting together junk as compared to the supercharger without any proof of either system.

The turbo I have already put together and tuned for the boost it is running as well. It is wintertime here and I do prefer not to tune on the dyno with a turbo vehicle. I actually want to load the engine and turbo with real world conditions so that the fueling and spark is spot on. Driving a 400+ horsepower car at wide open throttle on cold somewhat icy surfaces is just not smart. That is the only reason why I have not dropped the other wastegate spring in and retuned it and put it on the rollers to provide power numbers to you all. I can assure you that it is far past the "putting together" stage. Also, I want to address the part of your comment about the whole turbo vs s/c talk. Anyone that tunes for a living and knows a little bit about how boost works on high compression cars will tell you the same thing I did regarding why there are many many benefits that a turbo system has over a roots supercharger system in the LS. Remember that I did not say that as in turbo's are better than roots s/c in ALL cars as that would be a blatantly wrong statement. The turbo will make more peak power, but lets face it, power is not the only factor that comes into play to determine whether a person should go with a turbo or roots s/c in their other cars. However, when you have a daily driven car that is in the particular situation that the LS is in and need reliability included as well is when a turbo system will outshine a roots s/c system in almost every way. If you would prefer I can substantiate this with fact as well.

Ken, you are probably an ok guy and it is obvious that you have a small following here. I do think that you need to recognize true knowledge when you see it though. I am not one of those internet loudmouths that makes a claim or statement and cannot back it up with personal experience and knowledge. I am considered an expert in a vast range of items pertaining to my field by many people. I bet if you listened to what I said and gave it half a chance and kept cool while discussing these matters rather then taking the defensive then eventually you would see it too. Have a good day.

I am here to help you people while also enjoying a car enthusiast site. While what I say may occasionally ruffle some feathers I only say it because it is 100% true from my professional assessment.
 
Defending a product you sell is one thing but when you tell me that I can just leave the site (aka threatening me to essentially shut up or leave) then I see that as going far beyond simply defending a product.




Ken did you ever stop to think that the reason I am the only one on this site saying that about the KKM products is because I am one of the few on this site that actually knows this stuff inside out and backwards enough to make that educated of a comment? I make custom parts, turbochargers, superchargers, nitrous oxide systems, exhaust systems, CAI's and tune vehicle as well as many other things for a living so I know what is a good system that is worth the money and what is not. Whether you see it as me blowing my own horn or not, I happen to be one of the few here that actually has the experience and ability to make such a statement about KKM's CAI kits and back it up with reason.

You have made a repeated claim that I didn't substantiate my claims of "KKM being junk". Did you read my last post? I actually posted the substantiating information there. To keep things easy for everyone I will post it here again. I consider KKM to be junk from a get what you pay for standpoint. I will give a parallel example so hopefully you will get a better idea of what I mean:

I am into metal milling and am about to get into small foundry custom metal casting here soon. There is a metal mill named the Micromill out there that only cost about $400 from Harbor Freight. There are also other brand of mills out there from Bridgeport and whatnot that are much higher quality and cost thousands of dollars too. If you look at the Micro mill it is an ok unit. Nothing super special but for $400 it is not bad because you at least get a mill even though it does have a small motor and plastic gears. But if HF decided to charge $800 for that same mill and people had the same problems as they did before they would call it a piece of junk. Usually the term "junk" and a products price go hand in hand. If you get a microwave for $1 and it actually kind of works then it is a STEAL. If you get the same microwave and are charged $200 and it still only works half decent you will call it a piece of junk. The same principle applies to the KKM CAI too. If KKM sold it for less then it would be a good deal and I would not comment on it at all. But when you only get a few common pieces and are being charged $100 then that is when the "get what you pay for" factor comes in. Comparatively speaking that is when it is "junk" because for the price it is.




The turbo I have already put together and tuned for the boost it is running as well. It is wintertime here and I do prefer not to tune on the dyno with a turbo vehicle. I actually want to load the engine and turbo with real world conditions so that the fueling and spark is spot on. Driving a 400+ horsepower car at wide open throttle on cold somewhat icy surfaces is just not smart. That is the only reason why I have not dropped the other wastegate spring in and retuned it and put it on the rollers to provide power numbers to you all. I can assure you that it is far past the "putting together" stage. Also, I want to address the part of your comment about the whole turbo vs s/c talk. Anyone that tunes for a living and knows a little bit about how boost works on high compression cars will tell you the same thing I did regarding why there are many many benefits that a turbo system has over a roots supercharger system in the LS. Remember that I did not say that as in turbo's are better than roots s/c in ALL cars as that would be a blatantly wrong statement. The turbo will make more peak power, but lets face it, power is not the only factor that comes into play to determine whether a person should go with a turbo or roots s/c in their other cars. However, when you have a daily driven car that is in the particular situation that the LS is in and need reliability included as well is when a turbo system will outshine a roots s/c system in almost every way. If you would prefer I can substantiate this with fact as well.

Ken, you are probably an ok guy and it is obvious that you have a small following here. I do think that you need to recognize true knowledge when you see it though. I am not one of those internet loudmouths that makes a claim or statement and cannot back it up with personal experience and knowledge. I am considered an expert in a vast range of items pertaining to my field by many people. I bet if you listened to what I said and gave it half a chance and kept cool while discussing these matters rather then taking the defensive then eventually you would see it too. Have a good day.

I am here to help you people while also enjoying a car enthusiast site. While what I say may occasionally ruffle some feathers I only say it because it is 100% true from my professional assessment.
Well, where to start? So, you are stating that you are a jack of all trades and a master of none? That's kind of what I got out of that but it's all left up to interpretation. I did not threaten you but did state for you to act like a mature person on here if you are going to give your "expert" opinion.

I never said you were not knowledgable but did challenge your statment about the KKM product. KKM and I have sold a lot of these kits and have NEVER had them come back because the customer was not happy with it or it was defective. Like I said before, there is always someone selling something cheaper than the other guy. Whether it's comparable or not is the question. It is widely known in Economics 101 that you are only as smart as your dumbest competitor. This holds true. You see a lot of that junk on eBay and I wouldn't give you two cents for it.

As for KKM's perspective, I had a long discussion with Warren today about some upcoming projects. We discussed this thread and his philosophy is "who cares what he thinks". I kind of reverb that comment. Also, KKM starting making the Gen 1 units at the request of the former President of the Lincoln LS Owners Club. He by the way paved the way for this Lincoln LS craze but I digress. Warren said they made the units for the "luxury sedan" so that it did not make the customer feel that they were getting some "ricer" crap. So, with that in mind the price point of the KKM unit has not changed in almost 7 years.

As for your comment on the "small" following I don't understand that comment. I can state for a fact that I have been part of the LS community for about as long as the car has been around. So, with that respect I have had my fair share of time with the LS and owned one for a long time. That kind of makes me an "expert" in this genre as well but I don't see it like that. I'm sure I have the respect of a lot of members here on LvC and in the LS community but probably a hand full that don't like me. That's neither here nor there but you can see respect is earned and not given.

I don't expect you to like me or for what I stand for. As a matter of fact, I don't care. However, what does bother me is that most "new" LS owners come on this site wanting information and if we don't at least attempt to educate them instead of telling them "hey that is junk" without some hard facts then why be here. If occassionally "ruffling" feathers is ok with you then that is the wrong attitude. Maybe it is your way of having some other agenda to focus it on you. But, I'll conclude with this. Warren did state that he loves that we are talking about his products. The reason, Google searches will eat this up!
 
Well, where to start? So, you are stating that you are a jack of all trades and a master of none? That's kind of what I got out of that but it's all left up to interpretation. I did not threaten you but did state for you to act like a mature person on here if you are going to give your "expert" opinion.

I do not exactly get how you came to this interpretation regarding the jack of all trades. If a person looked closely at your comment that could appear to be a coy attempt at a low blow towards me by yourself. Of course I know this would not be true. Regardless, I am not a jack of all trades but the ones that I do participate in I attempt to master. Most people who have sought my advice over the years would probably concur that I am a master of the trades that I practice. However, ask me about installing a car stereo and you will meet with a blank stare and shrugging shoulders.

So let me get this straight... I give my assessment on a product offered for the LS which you happen to disagree with and somehow that makes my actions not mature? That seems pretty prejudicial to me Ken.


I never said you were not knowledgable but did challenge your statment about the KKM product. KKM and I have sold a lot of these kits and have NEVER had them come back because the customer was not happy with it or it was defective. Like I said before, there is always someone selling something cheaper than the other guy. Whether it's comparable or not is the question. It is widely known in Economics 101 that you are only as smart as your dumbest competitor. This holds true. You see a lot of that junk on eBay and I wouldn't give you two cents for it.

I would not have mentioned the other parts if they weren't of equal or better quality than the KKM stuff. In this case the parts I am referring to happen to be of equal quality, fit and appearance but for much cheaper.

As for KKM's perspective, I had a long discussion with Warren today about some upcoming projects. We discussed this thread and his philosophy is "who cares what he thinks". I kind of reverb that comment. Also, KKM starting making the Gen 1 units at the request of the former President of the Lincoln LS Owners Club. He by the way paved the way for this Lincoln LS craze but I digress. Warren said they made the units for the "luxury sedan" so that it did not make the customer feel that they were getting some "ricer" crap. So, with that in mind the price point of the KKM unit has not changed in almost 7 years.

That is Warren's right to think that. It does not hurt my feelings if someone disregards the information I put out here. As I said before, they can buy whatever they want. My reason for posting what I did was to give people a view of the flipside of the coin. People often see one perspective but are rarely given the chance to see the other perspective. People make uninformed decisions like that. Do you want your fellow forums member's to see only one side of things or would you rather them see the whole picture and make a more educated decision in the long run? I can only assume that your being a moderator would keep your vision clear enough where you could see the benefit to the member's in that.

As for your comment on the "small" following I don't understand that comment. I can state for a fact that I have been part of the LS community for about as long as the car has been around. So, with that respect I have had my fair share of time with the LS and owned one for a long time. That kind of makes me an "expert" in this genre as well but I don't see it like that. I'm sure I have the respect of a lot of members here on LvC and in the LS community but probably a hand full that don't like me. That's neither here nor there but you can see respect is earned and not given.

Ken "small following" is a common expression used in daily conversation so don't read into the wording too much. I understand that you are an expert with the LS but that is a broad spectrum is it not? I specialize in power & performance. Furthermore I have concentrated efforts in specializing in the LS performance area as well. Whom do you think knows this car better from a performance standpoint? Whom do you think knows what makes up a cost affective CAI or any other system made for adding power or better performance for this car? I believe the prototyping I have done in just the last few months speaks for itself here and clearly answers which one of us is more credentialed in the area of performance for this vehicle; as well as power and performance in general. I am sure you would probably be able to give me an education on HID lights and LSE body kits but that is not engine performance is it?

I don't expect you to like me or for what I stand for. As a matter of fact, I don't care. However, what does bother me is that most "new" LS owners come on this site wanting information and if we don't at least attempt to educate them instead of telling them "hey that is junk" without some hard facts then why be here. If occassionally "ruffling" feathers is ok with you then that is the wrong attitude. Maybe it is your way of having some other agenda to focus it on you. But, I'll conclude with this. Warren did state that he loves that we are talking about his products. The reason, Google searches will eat this up!


Ken, like or dislike is not the issue here. The issue is that I stated my assessment and backed it up with sound reason. I believe my previous posts regarding KKM to be very informative and educational to new members in allowing them to see all sides of the story. It is their decision from there whether they want to follow that or not. Neither myself, nor you, nor anyone else in here has the right to make that decision for them. Just like it is not my right to attack you for supporting KKM you do not have the right to stifle what I have to say when I criticize one of their products.

Ken the "ruffling of feathers" happens in business sometimes. Some people only prefer to hear what they want to hear. You cannot make everyone happy regardless of how hard you try; though you obviously should still try to. Remember that there is a difference between intentional ruffling of feathers to get a rise out of people and saying things that the occasional person may disagree with. For as long as you have been in this business I would have thought you would have realized this by now.

You and Warren are right about the Google thing. Maybe allot of people outside of this site will find this. When they do, at least they will have the advantage of all sides to the story to make the best informed decision possible. I cannot say anything else besides that this is a good thing.
 
I believe that this conflict could have been avoided if the term "junk" had not been used. No one wants either something they are selling or using to be referred to as such. By the way, I have KKM on mine and produced 337.9 HP & 405.4 TORQUE with a 100 shot of dry nitrous with a stock fuel pump, and stock injectors, NGK IRIDIUM IX plugs producing acceptable air fuel ratios. As far as I know, no one else has posted better.
 
I believe that this conflict could have been avoided if the term "junk" had not been used. No one wants either something they are selling or using to be referred to as such. By the way, I have KKM on mine and produced 337.9 HP & 405.4 TORQUE with a 100 shot of dry nitrous with a stock fuel pump, and stock injectors, NGK IRIDIUM IX plugs producing acceptable air fuel ratios. As far as I know, no one else has posted better.
Ok, that's enough evidence for me! Great numbers by the way!
 
By the way, I have KKM on mine and produced 337.9 HP & 405.4 TORQUE with a 100 shot of dry nitrous with a stock fuel pump, and stock injectors, NGK IRIDIUM IX plugs producing acceptable air fuel ratios. As far as I know, no one else has posted better.

For technical clarification a CAI, whether it is KKM K&N homemade or not has no bearing on the additional power you made with the nitrous. While those are nice numbers the extra power you produced on nitrous is totally unrelated to what CAI is run.




You guys apparently missed the point. Good luck with things.
 
For technical clarification a CAI, whether it is KKM K&N homemade or not has no bearing on the additional power you made with the nitrous. While those are nice numbers the extra power you produced on nitrous is totally unrelated to what CAI is run.




You guys apparently missed the point. Good luck with things.
So, your comment above now contradicts what you have been saying in this thread. So, the KKM units are not junk now or is the K&N and homemade kits at the same level now? I'm a little confused with your comment.
 

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