Wicked_LS
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the LS dominates the mark but i love both. both are luxury sport cars but i think lincoln should have been smart and continued the mark VIII's engine choice "COBRA" into the LS
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The Reason For More Ls Threads Is Many More Problems. Personally The Ls Sucks. I Had 3 In A 14 Month Period And Each Time Before I Could Get 5500 Miles, Nasa Was Calling Me About The Explosion The Motor Made. They Are Junk, Smaller V8, Less Power, The Powerband Is Too High, To Narrow. They Look Ok But Are Much Smaller, Less Luxery And Performance And Options. The Mark Is A Legend, All Marks. Mark Vii Were Awesome And The Cop Car From Florida Is A 1991 Police Edition Mark 7, Not An Ls????
Bottom Line The Ls Is A Nice Car, But It Cant Compete In The Mark 8 League, More Like V6 Crotch Rockets Like Mitsubishi, Honda, Pontiac, Other Small Tiny Cars. Bottom Line I Reverted Back To " Lincolns Last Real Car" The Mark 8, I Have 3 Now 2 95's And A 97 Which I Dont Like.. Gen I Is The Real Deal, Too Much Emmissions And Obd Ii Crap For Me On Gen Ii.
Come On Lincoln Did It Again With The Zephyr. Junk Like The Ls, Least They Put A V6 And Not The 3.9 V8 In The Ls That Seemed To Be Made Of C-4 The Way It Would Explode. The First Ls I Had The Friken Cam Shot Through The Valve Cover, A 2 Inch Piece Anyway, Put A Dent In Hood....the Other 2 Could Be Easily Collected By Removing The Oilpan, There Would Be The Guts Of The Engine After Detination, Roughly 5000 Miles Or So....i Have Heard Thousands Telling Me At The Lincoln Dealer I Work At About There Ls Exploding, Thats Why They Quit Making It....
Please Lincoln, Make A Real Car Again In This Sport Utility Era !!!
Bottom Line The Ls Is A Nice Car, But It Cant Compete In The Mark 8 League, More Like V6 Crotch Rockets Like Mitsubishi, Honda, Pontiac, Other Small Tiny Cars. Bottom Line I Reverted Back To " Lincolns Last Real Car" The Mark 8, I Have 3 Now 2 95's And A 97 Which I Dont Like.. Gen I Is The Real Deal, Too Much Emmissions And Obd Ii Crap For Me On Gen Ii.
Come On Lincoln Did It Again With The Zephyr. Junk Like The Ls, Least They Put A V6 And Not The 3.9 V8 In The Ls That Seemed To Be Made Of C-4 The Way It Would Explode. The First Ls I Had The Friken Cam Shot Through The Valve Cover, A 2 Inch Piece Anyway, Put A Dent In Hood....the Other 2 Could Be Easily Collected By Removing The Oilpan, There Would Be The Guts Of The Engine After Detination, Roughly 5000 Miles Or So....i Have Heard Thousands Telling Me At The Lincoln Dealer I Work At About There Ls Exploding, Thats Why They Quit Making It....
Please Lincoln, Make A Real Car Again In This Sport Utility Era !!!
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Wicked Ls, The Reason They Didnt Put The 4.6 Litre Mark 8 Motor Which Saw A Ford Motor Company Vehicle For The First Time In Sept 1992 In A 93 Mark 8, Is Because It Wouldnt Fit In That Tiny Car... When They Saw The Power, And When Mustangs Kept Falling Like Burned Skin, They Finally In 1997 Put It In A Cobra Mustang..
Also The Cobra Has The Same Rear End And Aluminum Control Arms As The Mark, Which Has A Air Ride Suspension, Sweet !!.
The Mark 8 Is A Luxery Mustang Cobra, The Ls Is A Honda Accord With A Tiny Tiny Tiny V8 Engine With Rear Drive..
Having Owned Mark 7, Mark 8, And 3ls's And Never Driven Anything But A Lincoln Basically For 23 Years, I Can Say I Would Rather Have A Mark 7 Lsc Than Any Lincoln Ls.. If A Mosquito Took A Terd On The Highway, When I Ran Over It In My Ls I Could Feel It, Thats Not A Real Lincoln..
You Know Why The Mob Uses Lincolns? Cause They Can Run Over A Body And Not Even Tell, So Smooth And Lots Of Roooooom !! To Put Guns And Bodys For Transport. I Doubt You Could Put 3 Purses In An Ls Trunk, Its A Tiny Car. Sure Wouldnt Want To Get Hit In An Ls, The Jaws Of Life Will Be Your Shoehorn To Get Out....
Be Safe Ls Drivers, Watch Out For Flying Engine Parts When Driving Your Ls...
Also The Cobra Has The Same Rear End And Aluminum Control Arms As The Mark, Which Has A Air Ride Suspension, Sweet !!.
The Mark 8 Is A Luxery Mustang Cobra, The Ls Is A Honda Accord With A Tiny Tiny Tiny V8 Engine With Rear Drive..
Having Owned Mark 7, Mark 8, And 3ls's And Never Driven Anything But A Lincoln Basically For 23 Years, I Can Say I Would Rather Have A Mark 7 Lsc Than Any Lincoln Ls.. If A Mosquito Took A Terd On The Highway, When I Ran Over It In My Ls I Could Feel It, Thats Not A Real Lincoln..
You Know Why The Mob Uses Lincolns? Cause They Can Run Over A Body And Not Even Tell, So Smooth And Lots Of Roooooom !! To Put Guns And Bodys For Transport. I Doubt You Could Put 3 Purses In An Ls Trunk, Its A Tiny Car. Sure Wouldnt Want To Get Hit In An Ls, The Jaws Of Life Will Be Your Shoehorn To Get Out....
Be Safe Ls Drivers, Watch Out For Flying Engine Parts When Driving Your Ls...
Are you joking about the engines blowing in the ls???? seriously, I've seen one post about that and IIRC the guy was an idiot. I've never heard that as a problem w/the LS...not with a dealer, owner, shop, etc.
The LS has a ton of problems, but I don't think blown motors was one of them.
Maybe on your next one you could put some oil in it.
The LS has a ton of problems, but I don't think blown motors was one of them.
Maybe on your next one you could put some oil in it.
Quik LS
Dedicated LVC Member
Well they weren't "his" - more like his "daddy's"
"My Pops Had 3 In 8 Months, Never Got More Than 5700 Miles Before Nasa Called About The Explosions. It Also Is A Smaller 32 Valve, I Beleive A 4 Litre Or 4.2?? Not Exactly Sure But Smaller Than Marks."
http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showpost.php?p=241256&postcount=10
After reading your 24 posts - lots of attitude - not sure how much substance....
"My Pops Had 3 In 8 Months, Never Got More Than 5700 Miles Before Nasa Called About The Explosions. It Also Is A Smaller 32 Valve, I Beleive A 4 Litre Or 4.2?? Not Exactly Sure But Smaller Than Marks."
http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showpost.php?p=241256&postcount=10
After reading your 24 posts - lots of attitude - not sure how much substance....
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A Stock Ls Can Handle Better Than A Stock Mark 8, But With Larger "aftermarket" Swaybars, Bushings And Tire-rim Swap, The Mark Being 7.4 Inches Wider And The Speed Assist Steering And Oh Yeah The Suspension Lowering At 60mph, The Ls Would Never Stand A Chance.
Too Small Of A Car. The Lincoln Has Pretty Much All Alluminum Everywhere Like Block, Suspension, You Name It, Plus Has Fiberglass Hood And Other Body Parts That Reduce Weight, Still Is A Good 550 Pounds Heavier Than A Ls. Ls Is In A Higher Class, The Ls Is A Subcompact With A V8, And Still Cant Run Down A Mark.
Black Sunshine Is Coming Along Running A 13.88 @109.3 At The Strip In Vegas, The Strip Is The Dragstrip Here Where For $10 You Can Run All Night At Midnight Meyhem, I Have Dusted The Few Ls's I Have Faced, And Most Of The Tuned Hondas Beat The Ls ??
Good Luck, I Feel For Ya Ls Owners, Step Into A Mark 8 One Day, Then Reply To The Threads, Because Allot Of You Have No Clue About Mark 8's.
Mark 8 Has Better Styling, Came Out In The 1992, When All Cars Looked Like Terds Mostly, The Ls Is 10 Years Newer Yet The Styling Looks Like Every Other Car Out There, The Mark Is Still Unique, People Always Askin What Kinda Car, They Always Say 2002 2004 Year, And I Say 1995 And I Feel A Nice Breeze While There Jaw Hits The Floor.
Mark 8 Unique In 1992, Unique In 2006, And Still Unique In 2025 When They Will Still Be Running...
It Will Take Over The 54 Tbird And 57 Corvette As An Example Of Styling That Never Ages....
Peace, Like Vonage Get Smart, Sell Your Ls And Buy A Mark While You Still Can......
Too Small Of A Car. The Lincoln Has Pretty Much All Alluminum Everywhere Like Block, Suspension, You Name It, Plus Has Fiberglass Hood And Other Body Parts That Reduce Weight, Still Is A Good 550 Pounds Heavier Than A Ls. Ls Is In A Higher Class, The Ls Is A Subcompact With A V8, And Still Cant Run Down A Mark.
Black Sunshine Is Coming Along Running A 13.88 @109.3 At The Strip In Vegas, The Strip Is The Dragstrip Here Where For $10 You Can Run All Night At Midnight Meyhem, I Have Dusted The Few Ls's I Have Faced, And Most Of The Tuned Hondas Beat The Ls ??
Good Luck, I Feel For Ya Ls Owners, Step Into A Mark 8 One Day, Then Reply To The Threads, Because Allot Of You Have No Clue About Mark 8's.
Mark 8 Has Better Styling, Came Out In The 1992, When All Cars Looked Like Terds Mostly, The Ls Is 10 Years Newer Yet The Styling Looks Like Every Other Car Out There, The Mark Is Still Unique, People Always Askin What Kinda Car, They Always Say 2002 2004 Year, And I Say 1995 And I Feel A Nice Breeze While There Jaw Hits The Floor.
Mark 8 Unique In 1992, Unique In 2006, And Still Unique In 2025 When They Will Still Be Running...
It Will Take Over The 54 Tbird And 57 Corvette As An Example Of Styling That Never Ages....
Peace, Like Vonage Get Smart, Sell Your Ls And Buy A Mark While You Still Can......
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Yep, My Old Ass Daddy Blew That Piece Of Garbage Up 3 Times, Used Mobil 1. The Ls Is Junk, Just Admitt It.
Crash Tests For Ls Are Different Class Than Mark 8, Mark 8 Bigger Car..and 10 Years Older.... Problem With Ls Is When The Paint Rubs Off, You Can See The Budweiser Labels Showing...
The Car Is Tin, Never Can Compete With Mark 8, If Your In Vegas, Any Ls Owner Can Meet Me At The Track, Its Every Single Saturday Night, I Will Even Pay Your $10 Entry Fee So I Can Video The Masacre And Show It On Lvc That The Ls Is A Follower, Not A Leader..
Put An Ls In A Crowd Of Cars And I Couldnt Find It, They Look Like Everything Else....
A Mark Has Style, Uniqueness, Personality, And A Real V8....
Crash Tests For Ls Are Different Class Than Mark 8, Mark 8 Bigger Car..and 10 Years Older.... Problem With Ls Is When The Paint Rubs Off, You Can See The Budweiser Labels Showing...
The Car Is Tin, Never Can Compete With Mark 8, If Your In Vegas, Any Ls Owner Can Meet Me At The Track, Its Every Single Saturday Night, I Will Even Pay Your $10 Entry Fee So I Can Video The Masacre And Show It On Lvc That The Ls Is A Follower, Not A Leader..
Put An Ls In A Crowd Of Cars And I Couldnt Find It, They Look Like Everything Else....
A Mark Has Style, Uniqueness, Personality, And A Real V8....
Quik LS
Dedicated LVC Member
Well - if you old man couldn't handle an LS - then good chance you can't either - same genes (assuming he is your 'real' father).
stick with your 11year old boat. You staying slow keeps the rest of us safe from your mouth....
stick with your 11year old boat. You staying slow keeps the rest of us safe from your mouth....
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Slow Ls, I Mean Wanna Be Quick Ls We Can Legally Race Anytime....second I Spend My Time Racing And Modding, Not Chatting..
Got Bored And Love The Site When Have Down Time And Mostly Read, But When Morons Like You Who Were Dumb Enough To Buy A Ls Or A Caddy Front Wheeel Drive Golfcart, You Get Defensive And I Actually Think You Idiots Think The Ls Is Better, It Is Just Denial, It Will Pass, You Guys Will Eventually Have Your Own Website As The Ls Has So Many Problems. See The Average Mark 8 Has Been On The Road 9 Years Longer Than The Ls, And Our Cars Have 5 Times The Mileage Sometimes And We Dont Have Near The Problems You Guys Do.. Our Problem Is Which Mod To Use...good Luck You Will Need It
Mr Director Of A Loser Site...
Lvc Is The Only Website Necessary, The Rest Are Just Wanna Be's
Got Bored And Love The Site When Have Down Time And Mostly Read, But When Morons Like You Who Were Dumb Enough To Buy A Ls Or A Caddy Front Wheeel Drive Golfcart, You Get Defensive And I Actually Think You Idiots Think The Ls Is Better, It Is Just Denial, It Will Pass, You Guys Will Eventually Have Your Own Website As The Ls Has So Many Problems. See The Average Mark 8 Has Been On The Road 9 Years Longer Than The Ls, And Our Cars Have 5 Times The Mileage Sometimes And We Dont Have Near The Problems You Guys Do.. Our Problem Is Which Mod To Use...good Luck You Will Need It
Mr Director Of A Loser Site...
Lvc Is The Only Website Necessary, The Rest Are Just Wanna Be's
02V8Sport
Dedicated LVC Member
Show some pics of this wonderful Mark VIII you have.
I also had a Mark years ago before the LS, they are completely different cars. Cant compare a 4 door to a 2 door. The Mark VII has the potential to be faster but out of the box stock for stock they are pretty close.
Only reason I dont have a Mark VIII now is that I dont want to drive an American car over 8 years old. I dont trust any of them w/o a warranty.
I also had a Mark years ago before the LS, they are completely different cars. Cant compare a 4 door to a 2 door. The Mark VII has the potential to be faster but out of the box stock for stock they are pretty close.
Only reason I dont have a Mark VIII now is that I dont want to drive an American car over 8 years old. I dont trust any of them w/o a warranty.
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Awww, Slow Ls Is Mad His Junk Runs 15.5's At Best And Not What A Bone Stock Mark 8 Will Run And Thats 14.99 @97
It Is Impossible For An Ls To Do A 13.88, It Would Fall Apart..
I Know Your Mad And Pretty Sad A 73 Year Old Man Can Blow Up A V8.. The Biggest Shame On Fors Is That 3.9 And The Ls..
As Far As Mouths, Least Mine Dont Have A Love Gun Stuck In It..
By The Way, You Pee Out Of The Love Gun Too, So Figure It Out Loser !!
Now That I Have Brought Reality To Ls Owners, Except Of Imbreed Dude From Texas, So I Am Out, Dont Expect Reply Might Be Another 6 Months Before Logging On. Our Semi- Annual Rain Event Is Almost Over, Time To Go Racing..
Ls Owners Cant Do That, They Run On The Street Against Hyundas And Hondas And Kias And Win 50% Of The Time, When In Vegas, Email Me So We Can Race Saturday At The Speedway, $10 On Me...i Will Accept Any Wager, This Is Nevada...
It Is Impossible For An Ls To Do A 13.88, It Would Fall Apart..
I Know Your Mad And Pretty Sad A 73 Year Old Man Can Blow Up A V8.. The Biggest Shame On Fors Is That 3.9 And The Ls..
As Far As Mouths, Least Mine Dont Have A Love Gun Stuck In It..
By The Way, You Pee Out Of The Love Gun Too, So Figure It Out Loser !!
Now That I Have Brought Reality To Ls Owners, Except Of Imbreed Dude From Texas, So I Am Out, Dont Expect Reply Might Be Another 6 Months Before Logging On. Our Semi- Annual Rain Event Is Almost Over, Time To Go Racing..
Ls Owners Cant Do That, They Run On The Street Against Hyundas And Hondas And Kias And Win 50% Of The Time, When In Vegas, Email Me So We Can Race Saturday At The Speedway, $10 On Me...i Will Accept Any Wager, This Is Nevada...
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Never Seen A Ls Made For Nascar.. I Saw The Mark 8 That Was. Never Saw That 3.9 Go Into A Cobra Before....4 Door Car Is Just Like Birth Control,
After The Mark 8, I Wouldnt Own Any American Car After 1998.. I Prefer Oldercars But The Mark Is A Legend..
Come On Guys Face It, The Ls Is A Smaller, Less Hp And Styling Version Of A Mark 8, The Suv Craze Put Performance Cars In The Museums Until 2004 Or So When The Gto And Hemis Came Out..
It Isnt Worth My Time To Keep Talking About It, If You Dont Get It By Now Then Your Just A Stupid Imbread Hick Who Will Think Like They Want, Facts Are Irrelevant...
The Only Time You Will See Me Again Is When Your Staring At My Rear Licence Plate.... Bye Bye 2 Fast 4 U
After The Mark 8, I Wouldnt Own Any American Car After 1998.. I Prefer Oldercars But The Mark Is A Legend..
Come On Guys Face It, The Ls Is A Smaller, Less Hp And Styling Version Of A Mark 8, The Suv Craze Put Performance Cars In The Museums Until 2004 Or So When The Gto And Hemis Came Out..
It Isnt Worth My Time To Keep Talking About It, If You Dont Get It By Now Then Your Just A Stupid Imbread Hick Who Will Think Like They Want, Facts Are Irrelevant...
The Only Time You Will See Me Again Is When Your Staring At My Rear Licence Plate.... Bye Bye 2 Fast 4 U
Wicked_LS
Well-Known LVC Member
funny thing is i have chased down plenty of marks and stomped on them also stating that the ls is like a honda is funny especially considering if you take the mclaren ls' motor and put it up against the cobra 03' 04' the power is around the same not to bad for a smaller motor. also you are kind of dumb if you want to talk learn your mustangs dumb ass. "sorry fopr the language" the 4.6 liter came out in 96' for mustangs not 97' so before you act like you know anything id suggest actually knowing it.
yeah 2fast 4you you are a cool cool guy can i be your friend i mean seriously you are probably 13 years old and your parents didnt blow up the motors of "their LS' " they told you that because they were too embarrased to tell you they couldnt afford them and they are losing there house because mommy is a crack whore and daddy turned out gay and ran away from home. But seriously can i be your friend.
yeah 2fast 4you you are a cool cool guy can i be your friend i mean seriously you are probably 13 years old and your parents didnt blow up the motors of "their LS' " they told you that because they were too embarrased to tell you they couldnt afford them and they are losing there house because mommy is a crack whore and daddy turned out gay and ran away from home. But seriously can i be your friend.
95LSC 2FAST4U said:
You're a funny guy and your handle should be "Laugh 4 U"!
Come on down the 15 and I will personally show you what real driving is about. I'll meet you at one end of Angels Crest or Ortega Highway and show you how it's done.
First one to the other end wins!
Then we will know.
Boomhower
Well-Known LVC Member
I would just hate to think that I had to state my "OPINION", however biased it may be, over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over. Opinions are like a$$hole's, everybody's got one, most of them stink, and there all biased to some degree. I love my 4 door, grocery gettin, family tote'n LS the way it is, even if there isn't a very big aftermarket for them. I bought my LS based on my style and taste a good week before I found LVC on the internet. Probably wouldn't have even looked for it, if I didn't just happen to run across it while doing a search about Lincoln.
Oh, and before I forget......Quik, don't let this joker get to you. You handle your original, one of a kind, made from scratch, supercharged business, and let others bolt on what they need to make them feel better. You are one of the most highly trained "HICKS" that I have ever meet. Obviously, not everyone knows how to handle such a piece of engineering as you can....At least, that's my opinion.
Oh, and before I forget......Quik, don't let this joker get to you. You handle your original, one of a kind, made from scratch, supercharged business, and let others bolt on what they need to make them feel better. You are one of the most highly trained "HICKS" that I have ever meet. Obviously, not everyone knows how to handle such a piece of engineering as you can....At least, that's my opinion.
Quik LS
Dedicated LVC Member
nah - a boy with a big mouth can't get me - 29 posts and they are all the same - big mouth, small brain - funny how it usually works the way.....
I've learn to never argue with an idiot over the internet - like this guy, they seem to have trouble knowing they look foolish, and even though you are trying to help them understand that - it's too late for them.
Just feel sorry for him - he can't help himself. He'll probably post more and more on this thread - it's actually funny, he can't help himself....
I've learn to never argue with an idiot over the internet - like this guy, they seem to have trouble knowing they look foolish, and even though you are trying to help them understand that - it's too late for them.
Just feel sorry for him - he can't help himself. He'll probably post more and more on this thread - it's actually funny, he can't help himself....
segxr7
Active LVC Member
I've owned two Marks, I like them far more than the LS, and I think they're better cars in many (but certainly not all) aspects.
But the..ahem..other Mark VIII enthusiast in this thread is downright embarrassing. I think something like an 80s Camaro would be better suited to him.
But the..ahem..other Mark VIII enthusiast in this thread is downright embarrassing. I think something like an 80s Camaro would be better suited to him.
As for his comments about styling, that's purely a subjective matter and one should refrain from commenting as such. However, I'm one that thinks differently. In fact, I don't think there is a comparison. I first saw the LS in 2001 and fell in love with it. Finally, after two kids, building a house, and some five years later, I scrapped up the change and purchased a 2006 not two days ago. The car has beautiful lines and as far as I'm concerned FLM really messed up by abandoning it. I love the car and will most likely have it for a very long time.
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95LSC 2FAST4U please don't make Mark VIII owners look like idiots...
Most of your facts are way off, and your insults are uncalled for. You claim that LvC is the best Lincoln site, well don't make us look like other Lincoln sites or the Ricer sited who just flame each other.
Some of the members who you are flaming are very experienced mechanics who know their cars. I'd be afraid to take on Quick's LS with any of my Mark VIIIs even my 94 which has a history of being a very fast and quick stock Mark VIII.
This thread was a very respectful thread until you started to flame the members. You are allowed your opinion and are allowed to express your opinion on what you feel about the LS or the Mark VIII.
In this thread I've seen only respect from the LS owners, not because they have cars that are substandard to the Mark VIII, but because they are honorable members with respect for each other. My hat is off to them.
But please don't make Mark VIII owners out to look like @ssholes.
Most of your facts are way off, and your insults are uncalled for. You claim that LvC is the best Lincoln site, well don't make us look like other Lincoln sites or the Ricer sited who just flame each other.
Some of the members who you are flaming are very experienced mechanics who know their cars. I'd be afraid to take on Quick's LS with any of my Mark VIIIs even my 94 which has a history of being a very fast and quick stock Mark VIII.
This thread was a very respectful thread until you started to flame the members. You are allowed your opinion and are allowed to express your opinion on what you feel about the LS or the Mark VIII.
In this thread I've seen only respect from the LS owners, not because they have cars that are substandard to the Mark VIII, but because they are honorable members with respect for each other. My hat is off to them.
But please don't make Mark VIII owners out to look like @ssholes.
StinkinLinkinLS01
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Too late mespock...you tried to save him...but here it is. Now read carefully boys and girls, this is a huge can of FACTUAL whoop-ass....95LSC 2FAST4U said:
In the Mark VIII 97-98The DOHC 32-valve 4.6L V8, rated at 280 hp, came with a distributorless coil-on-plug ignition system, eliminating the use of high voltage spark plug wires. Some of the transmission internal parts were reinforced in the late 1997 models and all 1998 models. LSC models had firmer shocks and larger anti-roll stabilizer bars, for better handling and control, a lower gear ratio and true dual exhaust giving a 10 hp boost taking it to 290 hp.
1998 Mark VIII LSC STATS:
Length: 207.2 in.
Width: 74.8 in.
Height: 53.6 in.
Wheel Base: 113 in.
Curb Weight: 3765 lbs.
Luggage Capacity: 14.4 cu. ft.
Torque: 290 ft-lbs.
Horsepower: 290 hp
Base Engine Size: 4.6 liters
1/4 mille time: 15.3 sec
0-60 Time: 7.0 sec
2005 LSV8 STATS
Length: 194.4 in. - 12.8" shorter! That is a plus for handling.
Width: 73.2 in. - The VIII is 1.6" wider than the LS, so much for your 7.4" HA!
Height: 56.4 in.
Wheel Base: 114.5 in. - 1.5" WIDER than the VIII - Definite + for handling!
Ground Clearance: 4.3 in.
Curb Weight: 3772 lbs. - only 7 lbs. heavier than a '98 VIII. I'll take out the floormats and we'll be even. So much for your 550 lbs!
Luggage Capacity: 13.5 cu. ft.
Base Engine Size: 3.9 liters
Horsepower: 280 hp
Torque: 286 ft-lbs.
1/4 mile time: 15.1 sec
0-60 time: 6.7 sec
- The VIII's displacement is about 16% more than the 05LS (4.6L vs. 3.9L) but only makes about 3.5% (290 vs. 280) more HP than the LS and 1.4% more torque (290 vs 286)
MOST IMPORTANTLY AND THE MOST COMMON MISCONCEPTION!!
THE STOCK MARK VIIIs WERE NOT, I REPEAT, ARE NOT FASTER THAN THE 2003-2005 LSV8s OF TODAY. CAR AND DRIVER TESTED THE 2003 LS AND HERE IS WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY...
"The most apparent effect of these quantum changes is a not insubstantial improvement in performance by virtue of a 28-hp boost (to 280) to the LS's 4.0-liter DOHC V-8 engine. Compared with previous LS V-8s we've tested, the 2003 version lops a half-second off the 0-to-60 and quarter-mile times, hitting the marks in 6.7 and 15.1 seconds, respectively. Running up through the gears of its manumatic transmission is as much an aural as a physical pleasure — the engine sounds a bel canto tenor, and the transmission shifts with crisp precision."
According to every site I could find (Car and Driver had nothing)...the best 0-60 and 1/4 mile time for a 1998 Lincoln Mark VIII LSC was 7.0 - 0-60 and 15.3 1/4 mile...
The LS debuted with a 3.0L V6 and optional 3.9 L V8. The 3.0 L V6 was a variant of the Ford Duratec 30 engine, and was available with either a manual or automatic transmission (both 5-speed; with automatic transmissions having a manual-shift option). The 3.9 L V8 engine was an all-aluminum variation of the 4.0 L Jaguar AJ-V8 engine. The LS was named Motor Trend's Car of the Year in its debut, and was nominated for the North American Car of the Year award as well. Because of its sporting nature and driver's appeal, the LS garnered a great deal of interest among enthusiasts, resulting in the formation of several online clubs dedicated to the car.
Now that is Lincoln's Best vs Best because none of the other Marks were as fast as the '98 VIII LSC stock and the fastest LS is the 03-06.
You are stupid. Read above. If you think any of the things you are saying are true you should be slapped. You think have a small car makes it handling more difficult go challenge a BMW coupe to a slalom race with a driver who knows what they are doing...
When I used to race I was RARELY been beat by "tuned honda" in a drag race that wasn't using a major form of forced induction or n2o...I've raced probably 30. I think Quik's LS will top 13.88 in the 1/4 once ready....IMHO. Or at least I hope so.
SO! I hope I cleared everything up for you. You see, the LS enthusiasts are an educated bunch (for the most part) and if you make ludicrous claims that one's here...you will be broken down and torn apart without mercy.
Hehehehehe.
Oh their is one thing I forgot. You're right. The VIII has .9 cu ft more of truck space. You got us there.
Roadwarrior50
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I have to say that I like both cars, I wish the LS had the aftermarket support that the Mark does, but on the same note, thats why i have a project mustang, because it had more aftermarket than the mark. When i went looking for my car there was a mark sitting beside it, and while i kinda liked the styling of it, when i saw the ls i fell in love. I think the styling is alot more up to date and european. Both cars are nice, its all personal preference.
And quik, if you ever come up to canada with that thing id be happy to give you a run, i dont think i would stand a chance, but at least id be beaten by something with class and that is truely unique. If you do come up though, bring me a SC kit.
And quik, if you ever come up to canada with that thing id be happy to give you a run, i dont think i would stand a chance, but at least id be beaten by something with class and that is truely unique. If you do come up though, bring me a SC kit.
TheRebel
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Wow I am sorry to the LS crowd. I didn't know this thread was gonna get some MARK VIII people fired up so much as to come over and bash us all. I guess I shouldn't have assumed that people that drive Lincolns have class. Oh well atleast I learned that I was an ignorant hick that didn't know anything about cars so I bought an LS. And to think I was looking at Mark VIIIs before I bought my LS.
