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    what's that tweet i hear? no, not trumps latest tantrum tweet. it's cohen, singing.
    so, what's that now. 35 indictments, and 5 guilty pleas. and cohen will probably make it 6. :D
    even trumps cfo is cooperating.

    but i guess it is always possible he was just an ignorant stooge of what was unfolding around him. doesn't always know even when his wife is around. o_O
    break out the popcorn for the manafort trial. or maybe he'll be guilty plea 6. :)
     
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    1 more pleads guilty, another found guilty. 2 in one day.:D
    cohen even implicates trump. so, who hitched their wagon to a criminal?
     
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      you have a point to make there shagdum? is that supposed to mean something?
      says he's a stable genius, but people need I.D. to buy groceries. that's hilarious. i've never needed I.D. to buy groceries. nor alcohol since my early 20's.
      what an out of touch moron. now he's whining about flipping should be illegal. just cause it's turning on him.
      i'm actually surprised he's lasted this long. just wait til he talks to mueller. then he can wear the same garb as manafort. :D
       
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      They really need to put a basic IQ requirement on this forum...
       
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        pecker now too is singing.
        i agree. but where would you go then shag?:)
         
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        I wouldn't worry about Shag's IQ. Worm now...

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        and his cfo too. and manafort's lawyers were looking for a plea deal for his next trial. bush's war criminal status is looking less in comparison all the time.:eek:
        pretty soon the chant will be "lock him up, lock him up".:D the orangutan will return to his cage.
        funny how things turn.;)
         
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        I made the comment here, somewhere, recently regarding, '...wrestling with a pig in the mud...'. In this case, not only does worm enjoy it, his insatiable demand for attention draws him back again and again for more bashing. He can't be unaware that he's making a fool of himself with his ignorant statements, but at least he's getting the attention he can't seem to live without, even if the replies he gets demonstrate that he's a dweeb and a nitwit.

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        let him just talk to mueller. we'll see what happens to the pumpkin head.

        oooh. words. i knew you couldn't stay away shag. removed me from ignore did you? seems only vitriolic buffoons reply.:rolleyes:
        i do worry about ks's IQ. so, where would you cut it of at that would still allow you shag?:D
         
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        I mean, if the fool wants to dance for our entertainment...

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          MAGA. My Administration Getting Arrested.:D
          manafort's singing now too.
          where did you find that gif of trump dancing?
          must be from his studio 54 days. his version of vietnam from std's.:rolleyes:
           
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          It's only four words. Read them on his cap. Make America Great Again.

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            now, what was that word shag used about clintons perjury? oh yeah, suborned perjury.
            https://www.buzzfeed.com/news

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            You easily mislead moron.

            Considering the level of dishonesty in the media (and particularly Buzzfeed), you might wanna wait a day or two for any of these "stories" to pan out. The vast majority of what they report on Trump are lies meant to deceive the weak minded...like you.

            MUELLER REBUKES STORY...
            Mueller's Office Confirms Buzzfeed's Trump-Cohen Story Is Fake News
            Inside Mueller's Decision To Refute Trump-Cohen BuzzFeed Story
            Latest Example Of Bad Russia Reporting...
            Fuels doubts about press...
            Montage: Media Calling for Impeachment...
            CNN, MSNBC Say Nearly 200 Times...
            MEDIA IN VARIOUS STAGES OF GRIEF OVER COLLAPSE OF BUZZFEED TRUMP/COHEN STORY

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              as trump says, we'll see.
              sparked fear in ivanka enough to try and minimize her role. https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/iv...ed-denial-buzzfeed-report-trump-tower-moscow/

              makes a person wonder about how much truth there was in it, and leaves it open as to what mueller objected to.
              perjury, obstruction, little difference. :D

              still, even by trumps own admission, he did lie about russia from the start. https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/pr...scow-deal-going-day-announced-day-won-report/
              as they always say, it's not the crime, it's the cover up.
              and the people who were gullible enough to believe his lie from the start. you easily lead moron you.:D
               
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              Mueller's own office refuted this. The first time they have directly done so. There is NOTHING credible about the Buzzfeed story. Is there ever any point where you would admit (even just to yourself) that you were wrong on this story? I am not asking about the whole Trump/Russia narrative. Just this story.
               
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                it's possible it's wrong. but you have a lot of guilty pleas from a LOT of people around him, and he lied about his building in russia. (never mind the other 8??? other fabrications or misleading statements since his inauguration.and increasing every day.)
                i don't think trump is too bright about a lot of things myself, but he's not that dense that he wouldn't have known what was going on around him.
                his tweets and speeches trying to get the non trump fellators to believe, shows he likes to be the driver.

                he was in direct contact with manafort while manafort was in jail. of course he directed testimony. so it isn't a stretch to believe he directed cohen. maybe not exactly as in that story, but somewhere along the way.
                well, we'll see what the house digs up now nunes isn't in control.

                guess it comes down to that old question on whether you believe it viable or not. would you buy a used car from him?;)
                king of incredulous.:)
                 
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                "guilty plea" does not mean ACTUALLY guilty. Especially in something like this. Look up what a perjury trap is. And consider the level of pressure involved here. It is the norm for these type of investigations to essentially shakedown low level people with minimal resources (via perjury traps, finding unrelated legally questionable/embarrassing info on close relatives, etc) to pressure them to rat out (or even make up info) on higher ups, which can be used against them against even higher up people in an organization. Rinse and repeat until you get to the top.

                This works because you have the full force of the Federal government behind any possible prosecution and the people being pressured, especially early on, don't have the resources to fight things in court. So, plea deals are common.

                The fact that any prosecution of deals coming from the Mueller investigation have zero relation to the initial focus of the investigation (Russian collusion) is about as solid a confirmation as you could possibly get that this is the strategy Mueller is going with.
                 
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                you sound like faux news. or guliani.:rolleyes: guilty isn't guilty. seriously shag. that's the lamest yet. manafort tried to fight and lost. and he KNEW he'd lose again because the case was pretty airtight. and the rest went with the lightest charges because they knew their chances were slim to none to win. i'd take a speeding ticket over dangerous driving.

                NYT: Trump asked Whitaker if he could put prosecutor in charge of Cohen probe - CNNPolitics

                and if trump is so innocent, why does he act so guilty? guys a walking talking obsructionist. and mueller is doing what he was hired to do. follow the money. and it's pretty corrupt.
                manafort still has a chance to stop lying and come clean too. it's never too late to co-operate. although the next deal won't be quite as good.

                so, there's always the possibility trump is just this dumb buffoon who had all these guilty corrupt people just appointed by others around him and he knows nothing.
                but why does he believe putin over american intelligence? and you wonder why people think he has a deal with putin?

                without newnez to run interference anymore, we'll see what comes out now. there's a pretty big fan spinning.:D
                 

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