Timing Check

[ramairmustang]

Okay I was told at the Ford Dealer where I got my recall done that there is no way to check the Timing on my car because it's computer controlled. I wanted to get the Timing checked just to see if its off any at all. Is this true or do these people just not know what there talking about.

 

[Sapperfire]

If that car jumps timing you'll know...it won't run anymore and you'll probably bend valves if it jumps, timing chains are recommended at 100k, there is no way to check the timing other than pulling the covers

you can get a general idea by doing a compression test

why do you want the timing checked?

 

[1sik32v]

Can't u just out a timing light on it or does he want the timing of the cams

 

[BAD97LSC]

you can check timing with a light there are timing degree notches on the timing cover near the crank pulley, but even if it was off its not like you can turn the distributor lol!!

 

[Sapperfire]

You can twist the coils :-D

 

[1sik32v]

Yeah I know just saying if he wants to know the actual timing throw a light on it or throw a snap on scanner to it if it accepts obd2

 

[Sapperfire]

95 Base doesn't have OBD2

 

[ramairmustang]

Okay. I was just curious what the timing was on it. But sense the chains should be changed at about 100K I should work on getting that done. How hard is it to do? And is there a write up for it?

 

[LaserSVT]

Chains do not need to be changed at 100K. They dont stretch or wear out like belts. They should be good to over 300K.

As for reading the timing it wont help you or do any good. The car constantly varies its base timing to keep the engine running at the targeted RPM. The car knows what it wants and you cant change it without remaping the computer. Even then the car will still command what it wants under idle and normal driving conditions.

If its just cause you are courious as to what it is at, its between 10-23* at idle depending on temperature, run time and if the AC is on.

 

[1sik32v]

That's kool to know idk if the bird would be different but I had mine hooked up a snap on scanner it said 22 at idle and 23 at wot I thought that was high as hell

 

[Moes8]

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/techarticles/33199_steeda_timing_adjuster/index.html

 

[Psychostang]

ramairmustang: Are you asking about Ignition timing, or Valve timing? It seems that people are giving you answers to both, but we don't know what you wanted in the first place.

 

[ramairmustang]

ramairmustang: Are you asking about Ignition timing, or Valve timing? It seems that people are giving you answers to both, but we don't know what you wanted in the first place.

The Ignition Timing.

 

[Sapperfire]

It's programmer in the ecu ...and I looked up the chains...I was wrong...it's not 100k...you get new chains when you get a new motor...basically don't worry about em unless there's noise, which in most cases is either a bad tensioner, or a broken chain guide

 

[topher5150]

how would you use a timing light on a gen II....just curious.

 

[Sapperfire]

You don't

 

[LaserSVT]

how would you use a timing light on a gen II....just curious.

Clip to coil one feed and use as normal.

 

[Sapperfire]

No!

 

[LaserSVT]

No!

Uh, yes. When doing an engine tune they clip their dyno to one (they used #8 on mine but any will work) to get their timing and RPM read.

A single coil makes the same magnetic field that a spark plug wire will make so you can still trigger a timing gun with it.

Now granted not all timing guns will work. Cant use a $20 Wal-Mart special, but any quality gun would. But again, there is no reason to do it. If you have an X-cal you can hook it to the port and the car will tell you what timing it is running.