supercharged gen 1

GMAN said:
Good question.
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That is not a good question and you know the answer! Hell you participated in some of the threads!
Common Mark knowledge that it takes some trimming and a k-member drop to fit on a gen1 and that a couple guys got away with no k-member drop. Gen2 just needs a small part of the hood trimmed.
 
LaserSVT said:
That is not a good question and you know the answer! Hell you participated in some of the threads!
Common Mark knowledge that it takes some trimming and a k-member drop to fit on a gen1 and that a couple guys got away with no k-member drop. Gen2 just needs a small part of the hood trimmed.
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I was not in any of those threads. Err go, a good question.;)
 
Sorry for posting a stupid question. Everything I read said no go with out cobra r hood. Didn't know that it was common mark knowledge. I thought things like bad bags, tranny, headlight, blend door, etc was common knowledge. Not that a k-member has to be dropped or shimmed, but some gen 1s don't have to at all(I knew about the gen 2). Icarus, thanks for replying and being helpful.
 
I've got a friend that I used to work with when I was in Virginia (Gman, this was the guy I told you're son to get ahold of when he was in Norfolk), that has a 94 that used to have a Cobra intake on it. I think he said that he used 1/4" spacers on the subframe and 1/4"spacers on the hood. I'm pretty sure he was gonna remove the hood spacers and change the subframe spacers to 1/2". Since then, he has sent his engine up to Livernois, to have them do some stuff to it. He just got it back recently and is supposed to have 550hp N/A at the crank. I can't wait to see how it turns out.
 
GMAN said:
I was not in any of those threads. Err go, a good question.;)
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Sorry if I am mistaken Greg but I could have sworn in my thread talking about Gen2's you were part of the thread. In that thread there was explination of Gen1 and Gen2 but there were 20+ threads talking about it when I performed a search. For Gen1 Cobra intake.
philly0420 said:
Sorry for posting a stupid question. Everything I read said no go with out cobra r hood. Didn't know that it was common mark knowledge. I thought things like bad bags, tranny, headlight, blend door, etc was common knowledge. Not that a k-member has to be dropped or shimmed, but some gen 1s don't have to at all(I knew about the gen 2). Icarus, thanks for replying and being helpful.
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Not a stupid question, not at all. Dont wanna sound like I am ragging on you as well but this is one of those subjects that has been covered SOOOOOO many times that it would have to turn up with just searching "Cobra Intake" in the Mark VIII section.

Anyway this is how it goes. 1/2" is whats needed. Dropping the k-member 1/2" is way too much IMHO for the suspension geometry. You drop the k-member that much and now the LCA is always angled up and the UCA is now angled lower. They will no longer have their factory range of movement and start to bind at the limits of suspension travel. Also the steering changes will be greatly amplified buy the geometry changes. The car will no encounter SEVERE toe and camber changes during the travel effectivly hurting the cars cornering ability as well as wear perts out faster.
The better idea would be to redrill the motor mounts holes up (or slot them) to drop the motor down 1/4-1/3" and trim the hood. Maybe shim the k-member no more then 1/8".
Thats just my .02

BTW, on my Mark I had to shim the hood 1/4" for clerence with my blower. There is some more triming I can do but will still have to shim 1/8" on the mounts. I will run the car like that before I drop my K-member down.
 
I said it was a stupid question b/c I looked only in the mark.org threads(2-3 years ago) and none of them said you could use the stock hood. Two pages into the search here I found a good thread with links to others inside it. Sounds a lot easier to just buy the cobra hood. But my paint is 16 years old and a fresh hood would stick out like a sore thumb. I had never seen Dennis 95, only his gen 2s. Nor had I come across anyone else using a stock hood. It just kinda shocked me. Everyone with a gen 1 and a cobra intake was running the cobra r hood that I had seen, so I just assumed that was what it took. Sorry Laser didn't mean to make you feel like you were raggin on me. I had given up on running a stock hood a long time ago.
 
I just spent a bit trimming my hood some more to get my stuff to fit and just got the hood down to the right height but dang its close. Wish they had a smooth cowl for Gen2's thats only 1" higher or maybe even 3/4" .......... I have a ton of free time now. I may go get a book and some fiberglass stuff and an extra hood and see what I can do...... dont help you though! :lol:
 
Reinhart doesn't deserve any, he's a thief and lair that doesn't know how to treat people. There are tons of posts about him all over and how bad he really is. I'd never want to meet him because of how he treated and talked to me, and I'm not one to do stupid things but be brings out the worst in me! You should have heard him on the phone yelling at me and the crap he said because of the mistakes HE made!
 
In the past I had heard good things about him and then I joined here. I have read 3 or 4 threads now of what people have gone through with him and am glad I dont ever have to rely on him for my tunes.
 
I have heard negative things about Dennis as well, but then again people usually only remember the bad things you do. Few and far between are instances of praise. Everyone always remembers the time you :q:q:q:qed up and when you do something right-- Well there is always someone there to say, remember when he-insert bad/stupid thing you did. That is just my lesson on life I learned recently.
 
philly0420 said:
I have heard negative things about Dennis as well, but then again people usually only remember the bad things you do. Few and far between are instances of praise. Everyone always remembers the time you :q:q:q:qed up and when you do something right-- Well there is always someone there to say, remember when he-insert bad/stupid thing you did. That is just my lesson on life I learned recently.
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This is true, but usually a person is the same to everyone in the right circumstances. Call him out on a mistake he made (even if it's done in a friendly way like how I started,) or piss him off and see how he treats you then? I'm sure he will revert to his 5yr old yelling self again like he did with me and others ;)
 
Icarus said:
This is true, but usually a person is the same to everyone in the right circumstances. Call him out on a mistake he made (even if it's done in a friendly way like how I started,) or piss him off and see how he treats you then? I'm sure he will revert to his 5yr old yelling self again like he did with me and others ;)
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I wasn't really talking about him. I don't know him at all. Just thinking about life while I looked at the thread.
 
You can run a Cobra intake under a stock Gen 1 hood with out altering the engine height. You will need to shave some material off the under side of the hood, and also buzz the ribs off the top of the manifold. It has bee done before. Denis is one of the first to develop a centrifugal SC install utilizing the stock manifold, which is a great idea for that type of install.
 
Here's one without the cobra intake still made some good numbers with stock intake
 
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