STS remote turbos??

You guys need to stop hating on other options for the mark.

I for one like seeing someone do something different with the cars.. and who gives a :q:q:q:q about the oil return tap? Honestly? If you're making 400+ rwhp, the last thing a person looking at the car is going to notice is that. Bunch of picky SOB's.

Basically, blowers aren't the only solution to the mark's power problem.

Sure, something may cost a little more or a little less.. but the end result is still something that Lincoln never could have dreamed of. Whether it's n/a, s/c, or turbo'ed, it's still a mark8. So love it.


Jesus.. the original purpose of the post was to inqure as to the ease of fitment on the mark VIII. I didn't ask if they were pretty, or tube-free..or tapped beautifully, for that matter.

And to the guys who had nothing but negatives to say, I have a question for you.

As much :q:q:q:q as you've talked about the system, have you used one?

I can't recall ever hearing about them having reliability issues.. I've never heard of the company's fab jobs falling apart.. or not functioning.. so while it may look like the microsoft 3dPipes screensaver, its still probably faster than your :q:q:q:q.

And if you could do such a better setup job of the turbos, then why dont you? Then post it on the forums, and we'll all tell you how right you were. Until then, it seems the STS built cars will be outrunning you.
 
blk96LSC said:
You guys need to stop hating on other options for the mark.

I for one like seeing someone do something different with the cars.. and who gives a :q:q:q:q about the oil return tap? Honestly? If you're making 400+ rwhp, the last thing a person looking at the car is going to notice is that. Bunch of picky SOB's.

Basically, blowers aren't the only solution to the mark's power problem.

Sure, something may cost a little more or a little less.. but the end result is still something that Lincoln never could have dreamed of. Whether it's n/a, s/c, or turbo'ed, it's still a mark8. So love it.


Jesus.. the original purpose of the post was to inqure as to the ease of fitment on the mark VIII. I didn't ask if they were pretty, or tube-free..or tapped beautifully, for that matter.

And to the guys who had nothing but negatives to say, I have a question for you.

As much :q:q:q:q as you've talked about the system, have you used one?

I can't recall ever hearing about them having reliability issues.. I've never heard of the company's fab jobs falling apart.. or not functioning.. so while it may look like the microsoft 3dPipes screensaver, its still probably faster than your :q:q:q:q.

And if you could do such a better setup job of the turbos, then why dont you? Then post it on the forums, and we'll all tell you how right you were. Until then, it seems the STS built cars will be outrunning you.
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Sorry, but I have a huge problem paying for a quality system and getting a crappy one in return. Evidently, you don't.

Please post the STS Mark VIII so that we can compare their Mark VIII to ours to see if theirs really outruns ours.
 
What's crappy about the system?


That's what I want to know.


If you're so against the idea of paying for it, what makes these systems so crappy?

The :q:q:q:qing oil return line?


What bad experience have you had, or even heard about with these things?

It's easy to call something "crappy" when you have no supporting evidence.
 
While it may work and be perfectly effective, it does look like a bit of a hack job. For my 2 cents, that kind of stuff is alright for a engineering prototype or developmental car but if you are going to be marketing this stuff.... I think some higher quaility stuff is called for. It may work but it its not something I'd be showing off.
 
CTX-SLPR said:
While it may work and be perfectly effective, it does look like a bit of a hack job. For my 2 cents, that kind of stuff is alright for a engineering prototype or developmental car but if you are going to be marketing this stuff.... I think some higher quaility stuff is called for. It may work but it its not something I'd be showing off.
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Yep, agree!
 
I never said anything bad about the design of the sts setup or its affectivness.

I'm just saying that the setup on that tbird looks absolutley hack. You can't tell me that it doesn't look like absolute crap.
 
Turbo systems aren't freaking dress-up kits.

If you wanna look pretty, buy valve-covers.

Turbos are for hauling ass.

You can't tell me that car isn't damned fast.


It's not pretty, but I'd rather have an ugly turbo than no turbo.
 
blk96LSC said:
Turbo systems aren't freaking dress-up kits.

If you wanna look pretty, buy valve-covers.

Turbos are for hauling ass.

You can't tell me that car isn't damned fast.


It's not pretty, but I'd rather have an ugly turbo than no turbo.
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If I was paying someone X ammount to put a rear mounted turbo on my car, and I crawled under there and found that.......Id find the first living thing around me, and kill it.


That's just friggin horrible
 
You mean an actual STS kit, or rear mounted turbos?


If you are refering to an STS kit....your right, I will NEVER purchase a kit from them IF that is infact the type of work they do. Besides, I prefer the low end torque produced from a twin screw setup more than the high speed pull from a turbo system.

If your refering to a rear mounted setup in general.....Your wrong. There is someone working on one right now.


Mike
 
I would like to see a clean set-up done so that I could make my mind up on this whole rear turbo thing. It's a very unique aproch to adding power, It just seems like a lot of extra stuff! Why run the oil lines anyhow? Couldn't a sealed ball bearing turbo be used? It seems simpler to me.

I just can't see a company doing that kind of crappy worhmanship! Are you guys sure about who did the work? It looks like a back yard speacial!
 
Do you have any idea the heat that a turbo bearing section sees? Sealed ball bearings would be toast in very short order. I for one won't run a turbo on my Turbo6 without water cooling aswell but thats getting a bit overkill. I'd also likely design and build my own using a bit better stuff but the STS idea is good for cars a nice booste in performance for cars that have heads that flow but can't suck enough air NA and are not octane limited already.
 
There are plenty of folks running sealed ball bearing turbos. You are right about the heat though. My ford 2.3 liter turbo is both oil and water cooled and that puppy glows red at night after a race! I know of many people using the sealed ball bearing turbos on toyota supras without any problems though.
The turbo won't be all that hot way back at the rear of the car anyways!
 
The fact of the matter is, they(STS) have it and are making money. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

I haven't seen so much negative posting since ??? :confused:

You don't HAVE to have them install it. I know 2 cars here in hicktown WV that have sweet STS installs. Some argue the effieciency... well, I say it doesn't matter. Fact is the stock Mark 8 would benefit greatly from 5 psi boost. If it's only 5 psi, that's still a LOT of boost when you didn't have any before. Now, if you've drove a 20 psi boosted rice rocket before, you're going to be disappointed with 5 psi from the STS on your 2 ton boat. :rolleyes:
 
I have no other problems with that setup, except that for something so poorly fabricated, they should charge at least half of the price.

If it were $2500.00 installed, I'd have no complaints at all for that kind of workmanship. I'd call it the best thing since sliced bread or air conditioning.
 
Why dont the turbos just have their own oil system? If they already are using an electric pump to move the oil why not just keep the oil in it's own system with a seperate cooler and an elctric fan? Has anyone ever done such a thing?
 
kustomizingkid said:
Why dont the turbos just have their own oil system? If they already are using an electric pump to move the oil why not just keep the oil in it's own system with a seperate cooler and an elctric fan? Has anyone ever done such a thing?
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good idea!
 
Dr. Paul said:
Are you just assuming nobody can afford such an item?
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Lol, No guys. My point was being, the people controversing about the STS install quality likely won't even have an STS kit so who cares about the STS kit.

for one, anyone that's going to go w a rear turbo kit should be smart enough not to go through STS if it looks like dogmeat, if it looks like Crap it probably is.

And, the people that think it's ok probably don't even realize what a turbo is.

Neither are buying STS, the way it was presented.. or at least allowing them to install it.. so why argue about how good it currently looks, when STS installs it?. Talk worthwhile eh, my time isn't gold but I like to learn too.. something other than, .. it looks ok. No it don't. Yes it does. You're on crack. What are you talking about I'm on crack.. YOU're on crack. Blah.

With a paid off and maintained Mark VIII, and an average job, anybody can afford this setup.
 
kustomizingkid said:
Why dont the turbos just have their own oil system? If they already are using an electric pump to move the oil why not just keep the oil in it's own system with a seperate cooler and an elctric fan? Has anyone ever done such a thing?
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I think the car would weigh more, which is trivial ok .. but, where are you going to mount your oil cooler, on top of your decklid? You need lines running to the front, or a HIGH CFM fan .. which .. is bulky. Where you gonna put it?. Just a thought. And where are you going to pull cool air from if it's in the rear? It's a question of feasability, I say running lines up is making most sense to my brain until I'm further educated.
 
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