Steering shaft Questions regarding kooks and cobra manifolds

[Lux]

Does anyone have a picture of the steering shaft mod installed with cobra manifolds?

I've searched and couldn't find one with the parts installed on the vehicle.

From my understanding -

When installing the FR joint to replace the stock rag joint for improved steering feel, longevity, and improved header clearance sometimes done when installing kooks...you retain the stock steering shaft, add the 2" machined nub, and the FR joint @ the rack..so you are eliminating the stock "rag joint" and replacing with a FR unit.

Cobra Manifolds/shorty headers - when installing the cobra manifolds you use the top half the of the steering shaft, disregarding the lower half (except the sleeve portion) followed by the FR joint. At this point you are now changing the location of the rag joint and changing the geometry of the shaft. You then use a piece of splined shaft and a coupler @ the rack to complete the setup to the rack.

Someone please Correct me if im wrong but I believe thats correct from my reading.

Now the question I have is can you run the kooks headers with the steering shaft modified as explained for the cobra manifolds or does this put the joint right where the kooks sit? Maybe its a stupid question but I cant seem to find a picture to visualize.

A few reasons I ask, FR only sells the DD bar in 18" length when you only need about 2" for the kooks install that you need to cut, drill, etc. and if I were to install cobra manifolds now but want run kooks later, or vice versa, youd only have to modify the steering shaft once and I plan on welding the joint. Might have been covered before just couldnt find any information or good final installation pictures with the cobras. Thanks in advance

 

[KStromberg]

No steering shaft mod of any sort is needed when installing Kooks.

 

[Lux]

No steering shaft mod of any sort is needed when installing Kooks.

This is true, thank you and Fixed

 

[keatonsdad]

http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?t=74349&highlight=cobra+manifold

 

[Lux]

Good information but doesnt help about if the kooks would fit ? with that mod and where the shaft delivers a problem for the cobra manifolds to require the angle change or a picture of it installed.

 

[DLF]

IMHO, The mod for the Cobra manifolds would cause a problem with the Kooks.

 

[DLF]

A few reasons I ask, FR only sells the DD bar in 18" length when you only need about 2" for the kooks install that you need to cut, drill, etc. and if I were to install cobra manifolds now but want run kooks later, or vice versa, youd only have to modify the steering shaft once and I plan on welding the joint.

I could probably help you with lengths less than 18".

Be very careful about welding the Flaming River steering joints. They warn against it in their literature, and you may harm the needle bearing seals.

 

[Lux]

IMHO, The mod for the Cobra manifolds would cause a problem with the Kooks.

Glad you chimed in on this. Ive been looking at alot of pictures and seeing your vehicles and posts is what helped bring this to mind.

I've not seen the cobra mod installed but im curious to see what exactly gets in the way that calls for the joint location to be changed and if this location is changed, will kooks still be able to be installed.

 

[Lux]

I could probably help you with lengths less than 18".

Be very careful about welding the Flaming River steering joints. They warn against it in their literature, and you may harm the needle bearing seals.

Duely noted...would not want to compromise that joint at all...hence, why getting it welded is a good idea vs risking a screw back out.

PM sent on the nub

 

[Lux]

still looking for a pic with the cobra manny's installed if anyone has one..

 

[Lux]

think i found it -

 

[warrioralumni08]

think i found it -

What thread is that picture from? If any.

 

[94m5]

Yes that's it.

 

[Lux]

What thread is that picture from? If any.

Not sure, found it last night hiding deep in my files. Should of looked there first but I knew i've seen it before, I found it in my folder of over 4,330+ pictures that are 95% Lincoln Photos.

So now looking at that pic, anyone think Kooks will fit with this steering mod?

 

[94m5]

No. They wont.

 

[Lux]

No. They wont.

Good to know, thanks.

If someone has a picture of the kooks installed with the steering shaft modified from this angle that would be great to add to the write up Header/Manifold options Install for Mark VIII

 

[DLF]

I have tons of pics, what angle are you talking about?

 

[driller]

Old way with Kook's headers...

 

[warrioralumni08]

Not sure, found it last night hiding deep in my files. Should of looked there first but I knew i've seen it before, I found it in my folder of over 4,330+ pictures that are 95% Lincoln Photos.

So now looking at that pic, anyone think Kooks will fit with this steering mod?

+1 For folders dedicated to Lincolns, and the mod motors! Care to share some?

 

[Lux]

Thanks driller.

Warrior - just moved and still settling in, have to organize those pictures, what are you looking for? I started a thread awhile back of abunch of crazy stuff, most of the stuff i have is of my own car/tech related pics I saved, like the ones posted in this thread.

 

[Lux]

after looking at the pics seems as the mod for the cobra manifold would hit the kooks, thanks for the pics!

 

[MediumD]

after looking at the pics seems as the cobra manifold would hit the kooks, thanks for the pics!

I have always had that issue when installing two sets of exhaust manifolds on the same head...

 

[Lux]

I have always had that issue when installing two sets of exhaust manifolds on the same head...

Hahahaha yessss....moar power