ridiculous air ride problems
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my problem has got to be the airlines...still. i just can not get them to go all the way in. they do go about a half inch but i dont feel them pop past the collet.
could my problem have anything to do with the fact that im trying to do this is sub freezing temps?
could my problem have anything to do with the fact that im trying to do this is sub freezing temps?
ford nut
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Put your hand down by the dryer when the compressor is running before it faults out, see if you can feel air by the lines were they push into the dryer when the pump is running.
If they are not seated in the dryer and are leaking you will feel the air leak with your hands.
If they are not seated in the dryer and are leaking you will feel the air leak with your hands.
BAD97LSC
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if you are getting the lines to go in a half inch then you are deffinetly getting them in all the way.
well i chacked back through the seals and made sure nothing was leaking and i got the dryer to the point where there are virtually no bubbles coming out, checked solenoid seals too. the car at least is putting some air in the bags but it seems to only go up midway and when the pump goes on, it still drops but will eventually begin coming back up. still will not reach stock height though. the check air light still only comes on once, and after that the pump will come on for 30 seconds, shuts off and will come back on at any given time after that.
its really blowing my mind that the car STILL sinks with the compressor running, the air has to be going somewhere. i guess im just glad i got some air in the bags, it is no fun driving that car slammed, which i regretfully have to do
its really blowing my mind that the car STILL sinks with the compressor running, the air has to be going somewhere. i guess im just glad i got some air in the bags, it is no fun driving that car slammed, which i regretfully have to do
BAD97LSC
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why dont you try jacking the front of the car up a few inches from where it is now and then turn the air ride on, this way the compressor wont have to work so hard to lift the front, it sounds to me like you might have a defective compressor, it might be working, but it doesnt sound like it is putting out the pressure it should, i know its new, but really it isnt, its refurbished, and it is possible that something might be wrong with it. eddie knows what he is doing, and i am not talking him down at all, but it is mechanical, and mechanical things fail without warning, it very well could be a weak compressor.
Short bald dude speaks the truth.
In my car my compressor motor is strong. Pulls low amps and is quiet, spins at a high rate. The problem I have is the pump section got a pit in the wall and scarred the piston and seal so it only pumps maybe 50% of what it can.
Moisture kills these bastages fast.
In my car my compressor motor is strong. Pulls low amps and is quiet, spins at a high rate. The problem I have is the pump section got a pit in the wall and scarred the piston and seal so it only pumps maybe 50% of what it can.
Moisture kills these bastages fast.
Sapperfire
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Short bald dude speaks the truth.
In my car my compressor motor is strong. Pulls low amps and is quiet, spins at a high rate. The problem I have is the pump section got a pit in the wall and scarred the piston and seal so it only pumps maybe 50% of what it can.
Moisture kills these bastages fast.
green slime werkz!
well i got the car to pump up so i took it for a drive, acted fine the whole time, comp kicks on as im pulling into the garage and i lose about 2 inches of height. i ended up just turning off the air ride so i could have at least some air in them to get to work tomorrow. the car would pump up to height but it would take forever, and would be past the point of getting a check air ride message.
i dont really want to buy another compressor just to have the same problem.
another completely random thing that happened while i waschecking the lines is the solenoid just lost all of its pressure all the sudden. bag went completely flat. ended up replacing the solenoid but what the hell? i literally just replaced the sealing of rings on them.
another strange thing is i had to force all of my lines in past the 1/2 inch mark. probably closer to 3/4 really. i had to really force these things in! i can't believe ford would put such a touchy system in a vehicle. blows my mind
i dont really want to buy another compressor just to have the same problem.
another completely random thing that happened while i waschecking the lines is the solenoid just lost all of its pressure all the sudden. bag went completely flat. ended up replacing the solenoid but what the hell? i literally just replaced the sealing of rings on them.
another strange thing is i had to force all of my lines in past the 1/2 inch mark. probably closer to 3/4 really. i had to really force these things in! i can't believe ford would put such a touchy system in a vehicle. blows my mind
Roadboss
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That's the way they are supposed to be as they have to seal the end of the line against the "O" ring down at the bottom. When you put the solenoid back into the air bag did you twist in, push and twist again to fully seat the solenoid(s)?
yes, the solenoids are completely seated and are held in place with the metal half ring. if i hadnt put the solenoid all the way in, it would just be dumping air out. i have no noticable airflow anywhere. i am 100% positive that my air lines are sealed but this damn thing still loses air AFTER the compressor kicks on. the only thing that points back to is the lines but theres really not much more i can do here. when i bought this compressor, i was contemplating going with the adrenaline series and maybe i should have. anyone have hands on experience with it?
this is just ridiculous. 2 times now i have gotten it to pump up, so i put it back together, then it goes right back to slammed and refuses to come up. just last night, i got it to raise to about 2 inches of fender gap. now its even with the top of the tire and simply will not budge. im seriously about to lose my mind here
this is just ridiculous. 2 times now i have gotten it to pump up, so i put it back together, then it goes right back to slammed and refuses to come up. just last night, i got it to raise to about 2 inches of fender gap. now its even with the top of the tire and simply will not budge. im seriously about to lose my mind here
Roadboss
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Have you talked to Eddie Spinks yet?
yeah i talked to him a few weeks back and we talked for a few minutes but we didnt really cover anything that i havent already tried. i should call him again and see what he says.
i tried jacking the car up a little to help it pump up but thats not even working now.
i tried jacking the car up a little to help it pump up but thats not even working now.
update
ok guys, i was able to get it to pump up with some help.
what i found out is that the front will not go up without help, but the rear will raise fine, so this eliminates the o rings being the problem. im assuming my vent is stuck open.
i have tried checking the vent at the compressor but not exactly sure what to look for. i cant feel any air moving around the compressor and the whole thing shakes so its hard to tell if air is going in there.
ok guys, i was able to get it to pump up with some help.
what i found out is that the front will not go up without help, but the rear will raise fine, so this eliminates the o rings being the problem. im assuming my vent is stuck open.
i have tried checking the vent at the compressor but not exactly sure what to look for. i cant feel any air moving around the compressor and the whole thing shakes so its hard to tell if air is going in there.
i am running oem bags with the solenoids that came with them. would the solenoids go all the way up(both steps) if they needed to be trimmed? would i be hurting anything by trimming them if they don't need it?
i do not think the solenoids are my issue, as the bags only lose about a half inch of height overnight.
i do not think the solenoids are my issue, as the bags only lose about a half inch of height overnight.
unity
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Solenoids go up and twist. Then the metal clip. Nothing should need trimming.
i do not think the solenoids are my issue, as the bags only lose about a half inch of height overnight.
Well you have a leak right there anyway. New OEM bags will not drop.
i do not think the solenoids are my issue, as the bags only lose about a half inch of height overnight.
Well you have a leak right there anyway. New OEM bags will not drop.
Roadboss
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You do know that when parked the car lowers itself about an inch after all the doors are closed, and if on uneven terrain may lower itself some more to adjust the height to level. This is called "Park Height". Once you get in and start the car the system will fill up until it reaches "Drive Height", again some adjustments will be made to level out the car while driving. Getting up to 55MPH the car will lower itself while at highway speed to a position equal to "Park Height", and will inflate back up when the car slows below 55MPH. I only mention all this to be sure you knew what to expect the suspension to be doing.
well i tested the car again today and let the comp run withouit any help from me. the car pumped up with no check air light but as soon as the pump started, it sank for a minute then caught up its slack. i suppose i will try buying new solenoids as the ones i am using are used. i know NEW bags won't drop. these are used bags, i was told they held air for 6 months on a car but they do leak a small amount. i wonder if its all coming back to the solenoids and its not the bags leaking at all.
yeah i know all this. i thought i knew our air systems before but i really got to know it in person the last few weeks:shifty: it all still doesn't add up but at least i can safely drive the car now.