Pulstar plugs...got 'em.

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I have a set of Pulstars to test out. I was going to wait 'til I can dyno the results but they have done numerous tests and I thought maybe just some fuel economy numbers would be sufficient. I haven't installed them yet so should I wait or do it next time I get a chance? I've got a group puchase on the back burner with them if you guys like the results. The Pulstar customer service guys are terrific to deal with too. So what does everyone think?
 
Did I read their web site right??? $25.00 per plug???
 
i watched horse power tv today they put a set of them in a 01 c-5 vette and it added 4 horse power. now i dont know what they cost but if they are 25 a plug that would cost 200 bucks for 4 horse in the top end, i'd rather spend 10 bucks on some autolites and have 4 horse less and spend the other 190 on gas and groceries!!
 
Marketing gimmicks at its BEST. Physics wins every time. Best conductor is gold or silver, but that wont hold up so copper wins. The best plug will be copper and have one electrode. No exceptions.
 
Even if they were slightly better I wouldn't blow my money on them.

If they work for you and you see better gas economy thats great, but I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't.
 
Actually over the life of the plugs with only 6% fuel savings you would save about $600(on their site)and thats only 12k a year. Its more up front but may have some nice benifits in the long run. A lot of mods we do certainly won't pay for themselves or anything else. Even a small increase in power and gas mileage with a greater savings in the long run would be worth it. Everyone likes to cut new ideas down before they really know the results especially when their not cheap. We've all been burned. I understand the negative attitude towards these new gimmicky products. No one puts down cops, nology wires or the like. This is good technology. I thought you guys would at least want to see results before you started cutting them down. Thats why I'm trying them. These aren't plats, E3s, four prongers or any of that stuff. Those are regular plugs with a new look. These are totally different. Lets at least see how they do, cool? If they don't do what they say it certainly won't hurt any of you. If they are as good as they say, and we could even save 200 bucks it would be worth it. Not that anyone cares but they also drastically reduce emissions which is good for the enviroment. That was a little sarcastic;) , I know there will be all kinds of fun comments now:rolleyes: . Lets just see what happens ok?
 
Speed Demon said:
Lets just see what happens ok?
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Put in a new set of Motorcraft 32Cs or 22Cs. Take it to the track.

Run 3 runs.

Change the plugs to Pulstars.

Run 3 more runs.

If you do that and your ET average is better with the Pulstars, I'll pay your track fee and buy me a set of Pulstar plugs. :D
 
I for one would like to see the difference on a dyno and if there is a gain in mpg
sounds like they work just like the nology wires but without the problems
 
unity said:
Marketing gimmicks at its BEST. Physics wins every time. Best conductor is gold or silver, but that wont hold up so copper wins. The best plug will be copper and have one electrode. No exceptions.
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I agree 100%. A lot of plugs have came & went over the years claiming great things! They were all just marketing. Remember the big splitfire rage 10-15 years back?
 
I think there are going to be two answers on this home work assignment.

1.MPG
2.ET
 
we're talking about igniting a very flammable Air Fuel Mix.

you cant tell me that "a special spark plug" is going to ignite the fuel "better".
and at 25.00 a piece you'd have to drive them a very long time before any "gas saving" offset the cost of the spark plugs.

NOW.. if the placebo effect is worth 25.00 a plug, far be it from me to tell you how to spend your money...
 
turborich said:
I agree 100%. A lot of plugs have came & went over the years claiming great things! They were all just marketing. Remember the big splitfire rage 10-15 years back?
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I agree.. and I'm running the "dollar a piece" copper plugs.

The multiple electrode plugs DO have some merit.. but not in an automobile.
The multiple electrode plugs are great for aviation engines where the pilot has control over AF ratio..and needs to to richen and lean then motor based on altitude.

In a single engine air plane you really really dont want to "burn off an electrode" by leaning out the engine.. the multiple electrodes give a "LITTLE" safety margin.
In an AIRPLANE..yes.. good stuff.. in a CAR.. useless HYPE.

in a propery tuned and calibrated EFI system.. a special plug offers "nothing".. other than "leaning out your wallet".
 
nology questions

Just to throw some gas on the fire, are the nology wires and silverstone plugs worth the money?
 
Speed Demon,
I am just as skeptical as the other guys, BUT I am also a curious individual and I appreciate that you are willing to try them out for us & share the results. Thank you for being open with us.

Here is what I would like to see:
Start by putting a set of fresh Autolite 764s in there. Basic $1 copper spark plugs. This is to ensure that whatever gains you make aren't simply because you have new spark plugs.
Burn five tanks of fuel, preferably from the same station or set of stations that you usually buy your fuel. Track your distance traveled with each tank as well as amount bought, which we can then put in a spreadsheet to calculate economy, averages, etc.
Then change the plugs to Pulstar and repeat the procedure with five more tanks. We can then compare the numbers on the spreadsheet to see if there was any gain, overall, average, or whatever.

At the same time, I'd like to see driller's suggestion as well. Get it on a dyno before/after or get some track times before/after.

Keep us posted, eh?
 
I've been going through the basics, fluid changes, taking care of any leaks, new fuel filter, new 9mm wires(thanks Max) and of course the 764's. I just have to test the fuel pump to make sure pressure is where it needs to be. BTW I think 3-4 years is long enough to see the 'results'. There is a lot of test data out there if you search. It's worth a look. Thanks Luxuryrules. I'm in the same boat as all of you guys. I've researched sonics, halos,e3's, ect. None of them have the backround, testing and support Pulstars do. All I see is a few guys asking about these and everyone shooting them down, even though no one has tried them. Thats why I'm doing this.I'm not saying your gonna get 20hp and extra 10mpg. Although if the results are similair to the 4.6 tests on the continentals there is a nice increase. As many of you know, I have more than my fair share of projects going on now. So I'll keep updating as things progress. If there are any suggestions, or honest questions I could answer regarding the Pulstars I'll do my best. Most are answered on their site though. Thanks again guys.
 
Pulstar is located in my neck of the woods... a lot of locals have tried them and I've seen what happens.

This is how it was explained to me. The plugs essentially advance your ignition timing by a degree or two. The energy stored in them combined with the energy from the coil builds up enough to jump the gap and spark sooner in the cycle than it would if there weren't energy stored in the plug. Once the spark stops the plugs replenish their energy from the coil.

So they sorta work, although you could accomplish the same effect with a tuner that costs the same as 2 sets of plugs.

But, they have a nasty habit because of the advanced timing: the ground strap likes to fall off. For motors that are already running close to the edge, the slight timing advance can cause detonation. I'd suggest not straying from that recommendation of premium gas, and if you notice a misfire, the plugs should be the first thing you check.
 
MediumD said:
The plugs essentially advance your ignition timing by a degree or two. .
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That could be "bad" on a well tuned car.

I know that with the tune I am running an "extra 2 degrees" would activate the knock sensor and the PCM would then pull timing.

If my car could stand 2 more degree's of timing, It would already be IN the tune...I dont like things that "globally" add timing, such as described in these plugs or the steeda timing adjuster. there is a right and a wrong way to do things.. Global adders are the wrong way.

now this might not be an issue on a stock calibration where there is about 5 degree's of timing "left on the table".. but on an optimized PCM calibration and extra 2 degree's could cost someone an engine due to detonation.
 
I've never heard that one before, but its good to know. Thanks. Testing will be over quick if thats true.:shifty:
 
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