New best for blown Mark-11.7 @120mph

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Me and my brother Mike just came back from US41 few hours ago and Mike hit his new best:D .It's still running 8 psi on Vortech sq-trim with stock heads,cams,intake manifold and exhaust manifolds.12-14 psi of boost and more mods coming in spring of 07.Here is the video and time slips. The other white mark 8 CA edition in the video is his DD
http://media.putfile.com/Blown-Lincoln-Mark-VIII-LSC-with-vortech-at-8-psi

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Derek
 
There is no way you're trapping 120mph with 8psi ~ 400rwhp, more like 14 psi already, plus serious weight redux, and obviously (judging by the video) almost no exhaust. Good run nonetheless !
 
He's got 3.50 pulley on it just like you had on yours so you know how much boost 3.50 pulley makes.It is about 150 lbs lighter.Stock exhaust manifolds with stock ehxaust pipes all the way to the back,he just guted out the cats and cut the stock mufflers off.Looks like the stock gen 2 intake manifold flows pretty good.Here is the cold start picture taken today in the morning before we hit the track,so you see where the smoke is coming out.

 
I normally don't comment on things like this.............But that thing looks horrible with that wheel combination.
 
Dominus said:
It seems like those were put on for race day. ;)
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Yop ,you are right
Here is the picture how it looks on the street and at the track.






 
Dominus said:
It seems like those were put on for race day. ;)
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I kinda figured that. :D



I guess I have a differing opinion from most. I see track times as a measure of how fast a street car can be on the street. I have never swapped tires out, or taken a sway bar out or lightened the car. I'm not saying you went to those measures.


I just like to run my cars the same way I would on the street. I may not be getting the best times I can, but i'll have a better idea what I can do in real world situations.


My opinion nothing more. Post away guys.


Mike
 
So what kind of fuel economy can you get with a Vortech like that setup? I've thought about a blower to replace my nitrous, but I don't need to make this thing into another weekend warrior race car I already have one of those.
 
3.48 pulley was making 10 psi @6200rpms thanx to the stock exhaust manifolds.
Did you ever datalog it on the dyno or better yet onthe road ?
Where do you guys shift it at ?

What does it weight in at with your brother in the car ?
I remember him being a skinny SOB just like me ;)
 
94m5 said:
I kinda figured that. :D



I guess I have a differing opinion from most. I see track times as a measure of how fast a street car can be on the street. I have never swapped tires out, or taken a sway bar out or lightened the car. I'm not saying you went to those measures.


I just like to run my cars the same way I would on the street. I may not be getting the best times I can, but i'll have a better idea what I can do in real world situations.


My opinion nothing more. Post away guys.


Mike
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At some point you have to see what the true potetial of the car is. Some track prep is normal, wheel swap, crap out of the trunk, or even just dropping the tire pressure. At his power level stock tires would be a SOB to deal with and I bet 12.5 would be his best. Yesterday at the track there was a new Shelby, he threw the slicks on for 11.5s. Ran the his street wheels at the end of the day for fun, I think 12.0 was his best but his streets were 295s.There was also a bone stock 96-98 Cobra, slicks got him a 13.43, never do that on the streets.

I agree both ways really, run how she is daily or see what she can really do. To each his own. I ran my LSE with the 20s 5-6 times this spring and fall saving putting the stockers on for just before winter because thats how she is driven. 15.041 vs. 14.541. So far right on the head a .5 improvement with the weather being only slightly cooler, I never ran in the summer.

Great times!! That car is a real sleeper.
 
So much for the theory that the gen 2 intake manifold flows like crap. Great runs! That thing is flying down the track, the flat top pistons help, the 4V's love a high compression/boost setup like this.
 
94m5 said:
I kinda figured that. :D



I guess I have a differing opinion from most. I see track times as a measure of how fast a street car can be on the street. I have never swapped tires out, or taken a sway bar out or lightened the car. I'm not saying you went to those measures.


I just like to run my cars the same way I would on the street. I may not be getting the best times I can, but i'll have a better idea what I can do in real world situations.


My opinion nothing more. Post away guys.


Mike
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Agreed. But I think an exception can be made. :)
 
98LSC32V said:
So much for the theory that the gen 2 intake manifold flows like crap. Great runs!
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Intake flow isn't nearly as much of a factor in forced induction vs naturally aspirated applications. The pressure overcomes intake inefficiency.

Paul.
 
94m5 said:
I kinda figured that. :D



I guess I have a differing opinion from most. I see track times as a measure of how fast a street car can be on the street. I have never swapped tires out, or taken a sway bar out or lightened the car. I'm not saying you went to those measures.


I just like to run my cars the same way I would on the street. I may not be getting the best times I can, but i'll have a better idea what I can do in real world situations.


My opinion nothing more. Post away guys.


Mike
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I understand your point but you think if you have a 11 sec car you can still run 225 street tires on it.This car will spin 255 BFG drag radials like crazy on the street.If you spin the tires and hit the rev limiter few times your belt is gone.If your mark Viii will ever run 11s you will change your mind about street tires right away after first ride in it.

m_maker said:
3.48 pulley was making 10 psi @6200rpms thanx to the stock exhaust manifolds.
Did you ever datalog it on the dyno or better yet onthe road ?
Where do you guys shift it at ?

What does it weight in at with your brother in the car ?
I remember him being a skinny SOB just like me ;)
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He has 3.50 RR non slip pulley,he gets 6-7 psi at 6K rpms and 8 psi at 7K rpms,he saw 9 psi few times at 7K rpms in 20* F weather.His tuner didn't set-up the trans shifts right so he has to manually shift every gear.Shift points are between 6800-7100 rpms.I guess it has to weight between 3800-3900 lbs with him in the car,yee he weights around 160 lbs.He had it dynotuned ones after he built it and it put down 387rwhp with 50 miles on the motor and crazy intake leak.He's getting Kooks headers,3.1 pulley,short runner cobra intake,4000-4400 stall TC,electric WP,alky injection or 75 shot over winter time.Shooting for low 11s or high 10s in spring time.Btw what's up with your terminator powered mark:confused: all show, no go:D
MediumD said:
So what kind of fuel economy can you get with a Vortech like that setup? I've thought about a blower to replace my nitrous, but I don't need to make this thing into another weekend warrior race car I already have one of those.
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He gets same or even better gas milage now then before blower install and dynotune.

Thanks guys for good comments,I'm building 4.6 DOHC t-bird now.
 
yep, that's me barely any show, totally no go ;)

Honestly this year had other things planned for me.
I did put about 7k miles on it, as it is my summer daily driver.
I built the car for fun, not for the track. But one of these days it will see the staging lines. So far lots of stoplight action here in Detroit ... :D

I don't see the problem hitting high 10s with all that you mentioned. If the HP is there, he'll have no problems.
 
95sc said:
I understand your point but you think if you have a 11 sec car you can still run 225 street tires on it.This car will spin 255 BFG drag radials like crazy on the street.If you spin the tires and hit the rev limiter few times your belt is gone.If your mark Viii will ever run 11s you will change your mind about street tires right away after first ride in it.
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I doubt that very highly. I am VERY concerned with how MY cars look when running them down the road. I've been to the track a total of 3 times, and only one was in my 95.


I'm preparing a new engine for my 95 with a 6 speed behind it. it will NEVER have a set of drag tires on it. I'm just not in to drag racing personaly. I don't run stock tires anyway. 275 40 17s are about as narrow as I get. But keep up your good work, that thing is killer.


mike
 
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wow so if I put a blower on my car, it won't effect my gas mileage?
 
95sc said:
He has 3.50 RR non slip pulley,he gets 6-7 psi at 6K rpms and 8 psi at 7K rpms,he saw 9 psi few times at 7K rpms in 20* F weather.His tuner didn't set-up the trans shifts right so he has to manually shift every gear.Shift points are between 6800-7100 rpms.I guess it has to weight between 3800-3900 lbs with him in the car,yee he weights around 160 lbs.He had it dynotuned ones after he built it and it put down 387rwhp with 50 miles on the motor and crazy intake leak.He's getting Kooks headers,3.1 pulley,short runner cobra intake,4000-4400 stall TC,electric WP,alky injection or 75 shot over winter time.Shooting for low 11s or high 10s in spring time.Btw what's up with your terminator powered mark:confused: all show, no go:D
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what boost guage. if its an autometer i can see why hes getting lower boost than others. (autometer boost guages are crap. of the 4 ive seen 4 read 1-3 psi lower than the true boost)
 
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