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Update finally my mechanic looks at it today as says I have to take part of the dash off and some of the kick panel off to replace the starter harness/cable/wire is this true? Is this a hard job to do?Please help
 
lsev8 said:
Update finally my mechanic looks at it today as says I have to take part of the dash off and some of the kick panel off to replace the starter harness/cable/wire is this true? Is this a hard job to do?Please help
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I didn't think so, but I looked it up to be sure. The factory service manual makes no mention of removing any part of the dash. (The passenger kick panel does have to be removed. It just pulls out, there's nothing to it.)
It sounds to me like this "mechanic" just doesn't want to do it.

Here's the factory manual:
http://deneau.info/ls/s6x~us~en~file=s6xe1008.htm~gen~ref.htm

Scroll down to "Positive battery cable (rear) "
 
Hello,
Thanks a million its the front cable cable going to the starter is this a easy thing to fix...myself
 
lsev8 said:
Hello,
Thanks a million its the front cable cable going to the starter is this a easy thing to fix...myself
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Okay. I thought you said it was the long cable that runs from the trunk to the front of the car. Yes, the short one from the wheel well to the starter is much easier to change out, but it is a multi-ended cable. It's section "Positive battery cable (front) ."
 
joegr said:
Okay. I thought you said it was the long cable that runs from the trunk to the front of the car. Yes, the short one from the wheel well to the starter is much easier to change out, but it is a multi-ended cable. It's section "Positive battery cable (front) ."
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So is this a easy fix for a person not mechanically incline do I need a lift.
 
lsev8 said:
So is this a easy fix for a person not mechanically incline do I need a lift.
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Just a set of ramps should be enough. You'll need the correct cable assembly from Ford.
 
Hello Again,

Beings thou its the front wire connected to the starter is this going to be easy for a non mechanical person like myself LOL. Also all I have is a jack and will be attempting to do this on the street in front of my house.
 
I found online the exact starter harness and purchased it for the same year 02 lse v8
 
lsev8 said:
Also do I have to remove some of the dash to complete this
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No.* You'll have to reach under the dash to loosen and then re-tighten one bolt. Be sure to disconnect the negative battery cable before doing all this. Do get some jack stands (they are cheap) and set the car on those. Push on it some to make sure it is secure. Also have someone there watching to provide help if anything happens.
I would never get under a car that was just held up by a jack.

*: I don't count the kick panel or the floor vents as "part of the dash."
 
joegr said:
No.* You'll have to reach under the dash to loosen and then re-tighten one bolt. Be sure to disconnect the negative battery cable before doing all this. Do get some jack stands (they are cheap) and set the car on those. Push on it some to make sure it is secure. Also have someone there watching to provide help if anything happens.
I would never get under a car that was just held up by a jack.

*: I don't count the kick panel or the floor vents as "part of the dash."
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So far all i see is this big red cable running beside the fuse box with a nut on it...
 
Sounds like the right connection. The wiring that you want to replace is on the other side of the firewall. It goes to the starter and the alternator.
 
joegr said:
Sounds like the right connection. The wiring that you want to replace is on the other side of the firewall. It goes to the starter and the alternator.
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so this red cable in the car needs to be un loosen and therest of the process is underneath?
 
lsev8 said:
so this red cable in the car needs to be un loosen and therest of the process is underneath?
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I had assumed so. (I thought that one bolt went from one side of the firewall to the other.) However, it looks like there is no need to access the nut under the dash. From the procedure that I linked earlier:

Positive battery cable (front)

From the engine compartment, position aside the bulkhead positive battery cable nut cover and remove the bulkhead positive battery cable nut and cable end.
To install, tighten to 12 Nm (9 lb-ft).

Disconnect the electrical connector.

Remove the body ground cable bolt and position aside the body ground cable lead.
To install, tighten to 12 Nm (9 lb-ft).

Remove the 2 harness bracket screws.
To install, tighten to 6 Nm (53 lb-in).

Remove the harness bracket.

Remove the starter ground cable nut and cable end.
To install, tighten to 25 Nm (18 lb-ft).

Remove the starter solenoid positive cable nut and cable end.
To install, tighten to 12 Nm (9 lb-ft).

Remove the starter solenoid wire cable nut and cable end.
To install, tighten to 6 Nm (53 lb-in).

Remove the generator harness locator.

Remove the generator. For additional information, refer to Section 414-02 .

Position aside the generator B+ cover and remove the generator B+ cable nut and cable end.
To install, tighten to 8 Nm (71 lb-in).

Remove the engine compartment positive and ground cable assembly.

All

To install, reverse the removal procedure.
 
joegr said:
I had assumed so. (I thought that one bolt went from one side of the firewall to the other.) However, it looks like there is no need to access the nut under the dash. From the procedure that I linked earlier:

Positive battery cable (front)

From the engine compartment, position aside the bulkhead positive battery cable nut cover and remove the bulkhead positive battery cable nut and cable end.
To install, tighten to 12 Nm (9 lb-ft).

Disconnect the electrical connector.

Remove the body ground cable bolt and position aside the body ground cable lead.
To install, tighten to 12 Nm (9 lb-ft).

Remove the 2 harness bracket screws.
To install, tighten to 6 Nm (53 lb-in).

Remove the harness bracket.

Remove the starter ground cable nut and cable end.
To install, tighten to 25 Nm (18 lb-ft).

Remove the starter solenoid positive cable nut and cable end.
To install, tighten to 12 Nm (9 lb-ft).

Remove the starter solenoid wire cable nut and cable end.
To install, tighten to 6 Nm (53 lb-in).

Remove the generator harness locator.

Remove the generator. For additional information, refer to Section 414-02 .

Position aside the generator B+ cover and remove the generator B+ cable nut and cable end.
To install, tighten to 8 Nm (71 lb-in).

Remove the engine compartment positive and ground cable assembly.

All

To install, reverse the removal procedure.
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So I dont have to do anything inside of the car? I just got to get jack stands im going to upload a pic for you to see.
 
Excellent on the jack stands, as well as where you actually jack the car up from. You can't just stick them under there anywhere either, you have to find a solid part of the car to put them under. Otherwise you can damage the car. This thread shows where you can put the jack stands under an LS.
 
Telco said:
Excellent on the jack stands, as well as where you actually jack the car up from. You can't just stick them under there anywhere either, you have to find a solid part of the car to put them under. Otherwise you can damage the car. This thread shows where you can put the jack stands under an LS.
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Thabk yoi...i cant get my hands on jack stands right now ....so i might have to wait
 
lsev8 said:
Thabk yoi...i cant get my hands on jack stands right now ....so i might have to wait
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Definitely wait then. Jacks are not designed for long term holding, and you don't want it to decide to bleed off pressure while you're under the car. If you can't get jack stands, ramps will also work.
 
Telco said:
Jacks are not designed for long term holding, and you don't want it to decide to bleed off pressure while you're under the car.
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Or forklifts. That's what caused the damage that allowed the engine to fall off AAL191, ORD to LAX.
 
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joegr said:
I didn't think so, but I looked it up to be sure. The factory service manual makes no mention of removing any part of the dash. (The passenger kick panel does have to be removed. It just pulls out, there's nothing to it.)
It sounds to me like this "mechanic" just doesn't want to do it.

Here's the factory manual:
http://deneau.info/ls/s6x~us~en~file=s6xe1008.htm~gen~ref.htm

Scroll down to "Positive battery cable (rear) "
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You got a description like this for an 2006 v8 valve cover gasket replacement
 
UPDATE!!!!! Ok so I hooked the new starter harness up, hooked the battery up I have all interior/exterior lights still no clicks or attempts of starting. I even hear the fuel pump coming on any ideas? Everything is hooked up correctly.
 
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