hate to ask but: Weird AIR RIDE issue...

You just have to realize that these cars are fuggin old on worthless to throw 350+ each for oem units. Once people start having issues is when they'll start liking the idea of coils. And now that theres no cheaper front air struts availible more and more are opting for them.

See that's the thing. Honestly I LOVE the uniqueness of air ride. It's a sweet looking feature on our Marks but you look at it from the economic standpoint & it just makes no sense.

If I want to take out my wife, friends, family, inlaws, etc... it was embarrassing for me to do so because I was worried I'd have an air ride issue. These cars are indeed getting older. The drive trains on these cars are AMAZING! They are good for 250,000 miles+ & it sucks to have to worry about a measly air ride on an old dependable car. Might as well close all possibilities of breaking down by switching to springs & hit the road on your Mark VIII to anywhere you want to go.
 
My 93 not only rode better, but handles better after springs. No excessive body rolld like in the past. If I tried to corner hard on air, I would get sort of a consistent bounce throughout the turn. With coils, it digs and turns. I can turn much sharper.
 
I'm not made of money but since installing two new Motorcraft air shocks up front and my compressor only being 3 years old or less, I'm not having a minutes trouble at all and I have an extra set or rears in the trunk tub because they can be swapped out in 10 min, if needed.

I bought mine because it had air ride. All three of them had it. The 95 is the only one to really give me a problem and it was the passengers side leaking down over night. It had cracks on the bottom after 15 or more years. That's a good chunk of time and worth it to me to go ahead and pay the $723 that I did to replace both front air shocks. Now I should see another 15 + years of worry free air ride, maybe more because I am taking care of these air shocks. Keeping them conditioned and clean, not just letting them absorb outside elements and expecting them to never dry rot. It is rubber you know?

Now, those of you that have swapped from air to coils and saying the ride is better, I'm assuming your front air shocks weren't new... Most likely they were old and worn. Of course something new is going to feel better, even if it is a coil swap. There are some on here that have some nice coil swaps that are pieced together from quality parts and when the day comes that my air ride is actually giving me so much trouble, on a daily basis, I'll give up and swap but I don't see that day coming for years and that's if I still own the car at that time.

If you neglect your air ride, expect a shiddy experience with it. If you keep your parts up to par, (new), it should run just fine for you. This is a pic of my front right air bag that I removed and it took 15 years for it to finally start leaking. The drivers side I had looked like it was only 5 years or less old but I sold that one to (The Big Red One) on here for shipping only and put a new one in mine so that I know both are new. I could have just swapped one side and been fine but to me, it was worth it to know both fronts were new.

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Do you see where the rubber has collected over the years against the plastic part of the shock? That's what has to be prevented. All you have to do is keep it clean and maintain your new front air shocks. I bet there is not one person on here that can actually say they have tried maintaining their front air shocks every three months to keep them conditioned and clean. Now, I will say, if I bought a Mark with all bad air ride, shocks, springs, compressor, I would go ahead and and install a good coil conversion but if the air ride is good and one part is bad, I'll fix that part and not just remove it all and swap over to coils.
 
So you rather go through the trouble of breaking down somewhere far from home

No I wouldn't! All I said was "If it happens so be it" And I have broke down far from home with air ride issues. I towed it home, fixed it and no more issues.

I also said "It's just my opinion"

Didn't mean to strike a nerve!

Whenever my air ride start's costing to much to fix then I'll get rid of the car.

What do you have if you take the air ride away? A mustang that looks like a MK8?

I apologize if I offended anyone with a spring conversion! This wasn't my intention. Remember: It's just my opinion.
 
No I wouldn't! All I said was "If it happens so be it" And I have broke down far from home with air ride issues. I towed it home, fixed it and no more issues.

I also said "It's just my opinion"

Didn't mean to strike a nerve!

Whenever my air ride start's costing to much to fix then I'll get rid of the car.

What do you have if you take the air ride away? A mustang that looks like a MK8?I apologize if I offended anyone with a spring conversion! This wasn't my intention. Remember: It's just my opinion.

Thunderbird man...Thunderbird.
 
Springs, I can not recommend Strutmasters, the ones that came on my car are not that old, but suck. I have re sprung several cars and the Strutmasters are junk as far as I can tell. I'm sure there are good ones but I like the idea of putting my air back.

I will spend most of this months pension check on new front air springs just because they are getting rare. My Mark is my project car and they get rebuilt to the limit of my ability and money. I will completely replace the air system that was hacked out of my car. All new. I will maintain it and expect little trouble. Thanks for the cleaning tip NoLimit.
 
Springs, I can not recommend Strutmasters, the ones that came my car are not that old, but suck. I have re sprung several cars and the Strutmasters are junk as far as I can tell. I'm sure there are good ones but I like the idea of putting my air back.

I will spend most of this months pension check on new front air springs just because they are getting rare. My Mark is my project car and they get rebuilt to the limit of my ability and money. I will completely replace the air system that was hacked out of my car. All new. I will maintain it and expect little trouble. Thanks for the cleaning tip NoLimit.

When you pay $650 to $750 for new front air shocks, I'm treating them like diamond rings lol. all that's required is removing the wheel and cleaning them and treating them like they are made of rubber and plastic. Use Zymol on the rubber and keep the plastic that's below the rubber clean. Spray a little tire foam on a rag and wipe that area clean so that it isn't dirty and sticky and I avoid as many pot holes as possible. I kinda drive like I'm riding on 20's. :) I don't have to but I'll do what it takes to make them last another 15 years or longer. I have extra relays and height sensors and other parts stashed away just in case something goes wrong.
 
In the end, everyone will do as they wish to their cars. If I had tons of cash to spend on air I would swap back to air because just like all of you I find it VERY UNIQUE but ONLY if I can replace the ENTIRE system for new. This way I can be worry free for years.
 
You can have a worry free system if you understand it and improve it.
I never worry about my air ride.

Granted I have made a few adjustments to the system and can fill any bag at anytime at any gas station that has air.

Bottom line is cheap spring conversion is better then a used up air ride.
Stock Rebuilt air ride is better then most aftermarket spring conversions.
A spring ride done the right way is kick ass.
 
Just thought I'd share the outcome of my "weird" air ride issue. My NGS tool reported RF Ride Height Sensor out of range after testing it no fewer than 6 times. I was just going to use it to lower the car back to where I liked it and it finally gave up a problem. Not sure why it took so many tests, but I'm not complaining.

Went through the troubleshooting for it and discovered a short within the wire to ground somewhere in between the sensor and the suspension module. Since I suspected it would take me a year and a half to remove all the e-tape from the wiring harness from sensor to cabin, I just ran a separately shielded wire and tied it along the same path. Prayed to the Mark VIII god and was able to McGyver the wire through the rear of the dash and to the module. Tested all things again to discover that the voltage from the sensor was hardly distinguishable when operated and had already found a couple on eBay which were enroute from Michigan. Part came today, poked it in there, and YIPPEEEEE!!! My lovely car is back on the road.

The NGS II tester may be outdated tech and fussy and blocky and stupid, but it probably just saved me an $1800 repair bill. Besides which, this is the most advanced repair I've ever done... and I didn't break anything, not even my knuckles :wrench

Cheers!
 
Congratulation's on saving your air ride!!
I saved mine years ago. There's not many of us left.
With a little knowledge of the air ride system, these car's are easier and cheaper to fix then most might think.
I replaced my front bags, compressor, and drier 5 years ago and have 195K on the rear bag's and would have no problem trusting it to drive across the country.

A MK8 is not a Lincoln without the air ride....I know you believe this or you would have swapped to springs.

Congratulations again on saving your air ride!
 
Thanks so much Spree! I was able to score one of my new front springs for $207, so less than $600 for both shipped plus around $100 for two used height sensors and another air suspension module. My '97 is still doing fine on all original parts except for one wire and one sensor. Not bad for 15 years of use!! I think at this point, brittle wires may become an issue, but that should be true for the whole car. As long as my NGS is properly functioning, I should be able to slowly replace harnesses and glitches.

I think it is worth it for me to keep the air ride forever. I love it! Oh ya, I have a new compressor/dryer waiting in the wings, too, and I will be doing the replacement when it's time. HAPPY!! :D :D :D
 
Hi, I am new here and learning the language and acronyms... I think i'll keep my air ride suspension for now and not tdo the conversion. Dad had a lot of work done on the system at some point before I inherited my 93 Mk8 from him this past March. Great dialogue here. There's a 95 Mk8 at the Charlotte Pull-A-Part. I took the air compressor unit off of it and solenoids from the front end. Great information for me. I am glad I didn't read this back in March when I got the car! I made two trips from Charlotte, NC to KC, Mo and back and one to Baltimore and back and just recently to PA to inter my fathers ashes...this car has huge sentimental value for me.... I read this entire thread with great interest because I have just now encountered some episodic(?) problems with the front suspension...right P side all the way down and/or front in the "slammed" position. Certainly impressed by all troubleshooting done here by the OP. I would think that might be a reason in and of itself to keep what appears to a problematic system. Course I am a scientist by training so I love solving puzzles! I'll be maintaining/fixing the system for now...where can I purchase the tester? Fun stuff... Thanks to all for enlightening me! :L
 

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