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zmt325

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I was in ashdown Arkansas visiting my brother. One day bored to tears I go to the little pawn shop there. not a whole lot to see. but they had a drawing (raffle) for a rock river arms ar-15 so I said fock it. i spent my $10 put my name in the #13 slot and forgot about it. that was back in October. low and behold I get a phone call today I don't recognize the number but i answer it anyways. and i won it.:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: red dot scope clean as a pin ready for me to have some fun.

I am as happy as a fat kid with his very own cake :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):
 
will do my brother will be picking it up on monday in the am. i am in Tennessee at home now. the only bummer is i probably wont touch it until mid march. but shat for $10 i will wait a year... i am looking at a 6.8 upper for it now
 
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That is some really good luck.Congrats.I know a guy who has buzzaed luck.Whats that you say? Cant kill nothin and nothin gonna: die.:D
 
zmt325 said:
will do my brother will be picking it up on monday in the am. i am in Tennessee at home now. the only bummer is i probably wont touch it until mid march. but shat for $10 i will wait a year... i am looking at a 6.8 upper for it now
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Your brother will be committing a felony if he picks it up for you.

ATF rules are very specific on such long gun sales. If the purchaser (and yes, you did purchase it) is out of state, he or she must pick up the long gun in person.

If your brother picks it up for you, he will be committing a crime as soon as he checks the little box on section 11 subsection a (11a) on the 4473 that asks "Are you the actual transferree/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form? Warning: You are not the actual buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are ot the actual buyer, the dealer cannot transfer the firearm(s) to you. (See Instructions for question 11.a.) Exception: If you are picking up a repaired firearm(s) for another person you are not required to answer 11.a and may proceed to question 11.b"

That is verbatim, taken straight off one of my 4473 forms. And yes, I have read a pamphlet on the subject, what with being a Class III/NFA dealer.

So, it looks like you're picking it up yourself in March. IF the dealer releases it to your brother, then all three of you (you, brother and dealer) can get in deep schit. You do not mess with the BATF.
 
Frogman, correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't it be easier if the selling dealer ships it to a dealer who is local to zmt325. He can then pick it up local.
 
Psychostang said:
Frogman, correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't it be easier if the selling dealer ships it to a dealer who is local to zmt325. He can then pick it up local.
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Thats just what I was thinking.
 
Frogman said:
Your brother will be committing a felony if he picks it up for you.

ATF rules are very specific on such long gun sales. If the purchaser (and yes, you did purchase it) is out of state, he or she must pick up the long gun in person.

If your brother picks it up for you, he will be committing a crime as soon as he checks the little box on section 11 subsection a (11a) on the 4473 that asks "Are you the actual transferree/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form? Warning: You are not the actual buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are ot the actual buyer, the dealer cannot transfer the firearm(s) to you. (See Instructions for question 11.a.) Exception: If you are picking up a repaired firearm(s) for another person you are not required to answer 11.a and may proceed to question 11.b"

That is verbatim, taken straight off one of my 4473 forms. And yes, I have read a pamphlet on the subject, what with being a Class III/NFA dealer.

So, it looks like you're picking it up yourself in March. IF the dealer releases it to your brother, then all three of you (you, brother and dealer) can get in deep schit. You do not mess with the BATF.
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Frogman, lets not forget, this is Arkansas he is talking about..........
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zmt325 said:
will do my brother will be picking it up on monday in the am. i am in Tennessee at home now. the only bummer is i probably wont touch it until mid march. but shat for $10 i will wait a year... i am looking at a 6.8 upper for it now
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AWWWW forget the 6.8 upper! Go for the Beowulf .50 upper! Get some REAL firepower for that varmint gun.

The Beowulf has outstanding velocity out to about 200 meters, with very little over penetration. Not to mention the size of the hole it creates.:D
 
Frogman said:
Your brother will be committing a felony if he picks it up for you.

ATF rules are very specific on such long gun sales. If the purchaser (and yes, you did purchase it) is out of state, he or she must pick up the long gun in person.

If your brother picks it up for you, he will be committing a crime as soon as he checks the little box on section 11 subsection a (11a) on the 4473 that asks "Are you the actual transferree/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form? Warning: You are not the actual buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are ot the actual buyer, the dealer cannot transfer the firearm(s) to you. (See Instructions for question 11.a.) Exception: If you are picking up a repaired firearm(s) for another person you are not required to answer 11.a and may proceed to question 11.b"

That is verbatim, taken straight off one of my 4473 forms. And yes, I have read a pamphlet on the subject, what with being a Class III/NFA dealer.

So, it looks like you're picking it up yourself in March. IF the dealer releases it to your brother, then all three of you (you, brother and dealer) can get in deep schit. You do not mess with the BATF.
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You are correct Frogman.

The easiest way is to do the FFL transfer, unless you want to drive a while. Of course you only need the FFL transfer for the lower receiver, all of the other parts can be shipped without it.
 
The 5.56 has never been a very good man stopper. It'll do the job, but not very efficiently. Case in point, when the Iraq conflict fired up there was a run on m-14 and m-1a1 weapons, you couldn't get them at all because the soldiers/marines/etc were snatching them up to use against haji.

From personal experience I would say that the 5.56 can kill. But now there are so much better options out there. Like the 6.8, the 6.5 Grendel, etc. most if not all of them are easy retrofits on the m-16/ar-15 platform.

When I went over seas I managed to get my hands on an old m-79, and for NATO purposes I only carried the shotgun round, at least when the NATO inspectors were around. (I'm an old combat medic, and we couldn't carry "offensive" firearms in combat by the laws of the Geneva convention). The M-79, while slow to reload, made a spectacular weapon.

I would have more confidence in the front line weapon of today if it were chambered larger than a .22. I liked the idea of the AR-10, it was at least chambered in 7.62, now THAT is a man stopper.
 
i love how this forum can go from car talk to gun talk in the click of the mouse. if you do the ffl transfer though be prepared to part with at least $25. it quite a bit of paper work for the deaaler
 
Sapperfire said:
AR-15...an ok gun..not my choice in a fire fight anymore however. 5.56 has no balls, great for murdering rabbits and squirrels.. At war..give me this



YouTube - Kord 12.7x108mm bi-pod machinegun vs wall
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You mean rifle.

And yes 5.56 doesnt have the stopping power of 7.62 but it is very accurate. But also a pain to clean...hard to get into the star chamber. Id rather be a 240 gunner...even more of a paint to clean but the stopping power is well worth it.
 
BlackLS06 said:
You mean rifle.

And yes 5.56 doesnt have the stopping power of 7.62 but it is very accurate. But also a pain to clean...hard to get into the star chamber. Id rather be a 240 gunner...even more of a paint to clean but the stopping power is well worth it.
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Agreed whole heartedly!

Though in my day it was a M-60, the 240 hadn't yet been developed, as for that neither had the SAW. God I feel old!:(
 
I was issued to carry the M249 while with my Eng. segment, now while it's on the 5.56 platform, it was a nice weapon, even though the sustained/cyclick rate couldn't actually be changed by turning the gas tube as designed in the M240B. This would be the only 5.56 I would choose if I had to. The M4 always seemed to have jamming issues if not constantly cleaned, and yes the bore was always a good way to waste 30 or 40 qtips.

I was in service between 97 and 02, we lost the "pig" in 00 for the 240B, it's one hell of a machine-gun, but weighs a couple pounds more too
 
Ive had multiple double feeds on the range and one of them caused to me loose sharpshooter and only get marksman on that qual.

But i was also using an M4A2 back then.

saw's are nice they dont jam as much when belt fed but i would not use a magazine with it unless :q:q:q:q hit the fan and thats all i could find.

It is a little heavy but light enough to dual wield:

YouTube - Army Soldier dual-wields some M249's

I dont think anyone could do that with a 60 or 240.
 
I got to dual weild my saw with my gunners 240 lol. The saw was such an easy maint weapon, mine never jammed in 5 years, using mags with it was tricky at first, until I went in and modified all 12 of my mags

Ive never had issues on a range, I grew up at a gun range, my grandma owns Baileys House of Guns in Almeda,Tx. I always qualified expert even in basic. That's mainly only because I've been shooting since I could walk. Texans do things that way :-)

And the guy in the vid needs more upper body strength, I could hold my saw out like a pistol...rofl. Soldiers today are getting weak and timid
 
Sapperfire said:
I was issued to carry the M249 while with my Eng. segment, now while it's on the 5.56 platform, it was a nice weapon, even though the sustained/cyclick rate couldn't actually be changed by turning the gas tube as designed in the M240B. This would be the only 5.56 I would choose if I had to. The M4 always seemed to have jamming issues if not constantly cleaned, and yes the bore was always a good way to waste 30 or 40 qtips.

I was in service between 97 and 02, we lost the "pig" in 00 for the 240B, it's one hell of a machine-gun, but weighs a couple pounds more too
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I served from 92 to 96. I have always heard great things about the 240 and wished I could have put a few rounds through it. As for the M-4, it's just a cut down AR platform, and like all AR designs it suffers from one ginormous flaw... it craps where it eats. Some of the newer designs use a gas piston, which is much more reliable and effecient, just ask anyone who has ever carried an AK-47/74 or its ilk. But I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.

At least we didn't have to carry the first generation M-16, the one without the crome lined barrell. I really feel bad for those fellers it was issued to in the early part of the Nam.
 
Lmao, yeah that thing was a turd, I love the "hide the cleaning kit in the buttstock" idea tho... Great for someone that's naked, and needs to polish a rifle on the move
 
You had to be naked to clean that one, anything you were wearing would be ruined by all of the cleaning fluid and oil you had to use!

That version is where we got the saying that if it wasn't dripping with oil you didn't use enough.

Sapper, are you a Sapper?!? I would think so by your name but I want to be sure. If so what unit were you with? I knew some sappers in my day, I know we didn't serve at the same time but we just might know some of the same people.
 
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