Best Gen1 LS times. N/A.

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Who has the fastest N/A timeslip for a 00-02. Pulled my 20s and ran today, and she ran fast. Had alot more gas than I needed too, near 3/4 tank.

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So what kind of car did you race in that last timeslip that smoked you ?
 
I ran 13 times, I'd have to think about that.

I got beat by a 99-04 Mustang a few times, a Charger, a Neon. Hard to remember with that many passes.
 
Wow I didn't know the LS was that fast. I thought it was more like a 15.5 or so. Nice job, now see what you get in your mark But I thought I will be faster then the LS.
 
Also noticed that the other two races #950 improved his time and beat you the second time around. I bet you up north guys are enjoying the better performance with the cooler temps. Its still in the 80's down here in Florida during the daytime. Sucks.
 
950...ahhh, yeah, that was a early 90s Integra with bare bondo all over one quarter panel and the whole car was spray can painted, a real wreck. I actually raced him 5 times and he won all but against my 14.5 run. He had slicks and a stick so he could do 2.0 60's, but then Id pull but not enough to catch. My traps were always higher.
 
mark0101 said:
Wow I didn't know the LS was that fast. I thought it was more like a 15.5 or so. Nice job, now see what you get in your mark But I thought I will be faster then the LS.
Most 00-02s seem to run very low 15s and will challenge a Mark well especially in the first 1/8mile. The Mark has longer legs. The LS is easier to launch and has a better traction by far. 03up LSes will run faster yet. I ran my Mark only once and never mastered launching it resulting in very bad times, it has potential to go as well as the LS.
 
02LSE96LSC91SE84TC said:
Most 00-02s seem to run very low 15s and will challenge a Mark well especially in the first 1/8mile. The Mark has longer legs. The LS is easier to launch and has a better traction by far. 03up LSes will run faster yet. I ran my Mark only once and never mastered launching it resulting in very bad times, it has potential to go as well as the LS.

What is done to your LS? Just SCT?
 
02LSE96LSC91SE84TC said:
No tune.

I have the LSK Aluminum Intake Tube w/KKM and the Magna-Flow cat back, thats it.
Oh I thought it did a 14.5 stock, so you have a intake and an exhaust.
 
DMcBrideBoston said:
For intake and exhaust, thats an amazing time...With a good dyno tune you could see 14 flat - 14.2
I don't think a tune can shave that much...who knows though these times were a surprize.

I couldn't break 14.9 with 60's in the mid to high 2.2s. Also had some 15.0 and 15.1 passes with 2.3 60's. I dropped the tire pressure from 29-25 and lightened my launch technique and bam, high 2.1 and very low 2.2s 60's. Went down to 23 and it seemed the same.

The launch is the secret. You can almost make a multiplier for the 60' to get the 1/4 time with a very small margin for error.

Running the car 13 times all in one day helped me discover how the car likes to leave the line and how it doesn't.

That said, taking what I've learned, less fuel, my K&N is real dirty so I'm cleaning that, if I can get a low 2.1 60' I figure a 14.4 @ 96 is possible with no further mods.
 
02LSE96LSC91SE84TC said:
I don't think a tune can shave that much...who knows though these times were a surprize.

I couldn't break 14.9 with 60's in the mid to high 2.2s. Also had some 15.0 and 15.1 passes with 2.3 60's. I dropped the tire pressure from 29-25 and lightened my launch technique and bam, high 2.1 and very low 2.2s 60's. Went down to 23 and it seemed the same.

The launch is the secret. You can almost make a multiplier for the 60' to get the 1/4 time with a very small margin for error.

Running the car 13 times all in one day helped me discover how the car likes to leave the line and how it doesn't.

That said, taking what I've learned, less fuel, my K&N is real dirty so I'm cleaning that, if I can get a low 2.1 60' I figure a 14.4 @ 96 is possible with no further mods.

Great times for just a CAI and exhaust! So WHAT IS your secret for launching it? I've only run 5-6 times and it seems like it doesn't like to be power-braked off the line. While I didn't try it at the track, on the street my LS seems like it'd get a better 60' just tromping it off the line. Did you shift w/ SST or just leave it in D5?

(my timeslip is in my scrapbook)
 
JohnnyBz00LS said:
Great times for just a CAI and exhaust! So WHAT IS your secret for launching it? I've only run 5-6 times and it seems like it doesn't like to be power-braked off the line. While I didn't try it at the track, on the street my LS seems like it'd get a better 60' just tromping it off the line. Did you shift w/ SST or just leave it in D5?

(my timeslip is in my scrapbook)
Wouldn't be a secret if I told you. JK

You are right, I've noticed the car doesn't like a hard launch. As a matter of fact it almost seems to bog after the hard launch around 3-4k. So the rpms jump from the launch lag 3-4kish and then kick in hard, not very smooth.

I've noticed in the past with my 20+ previous passes and found a light brake launch was best, but didn't really master why.

This time I ditched the hard launch early cause I knew it didn't work well but figured it was worth a try with my lighter wheels. Well traction with the stock Michilins isn't as good as the Nitto555s either.

I then found that the lightest possible gas/brake seemed to help that lag and produce better times. I then started to not slam the gas so hard to the floor. This is very hard to control, I've hurt my foot racing before. That seemed to eliminate that lag all together with a smooth fast rev right into the power band, no lag. I can actually feel it and see it in the tach.

I use the SST, you have to start in D5 and move it over immediately after launch. If you move it over to late it will shift into 2nd when you move over. I had a 14.9 pass Sunday with a 3kish 1-2 shift.

Sooo. 22-25psi, hold the brake and touch the gas just lightly, last yellow put it down but not to hard, move the shifter over, look down to the tach cause its time to shift:D.
 
02LSE96LSC91SE84TC said:
I don't think a tune can shave that much...who knows though these times were a surprize.

With an SCT tune in my last car, I shaved .6 off my times in similar conditions the same weekend with an exact same launch method....It wasn't an LS, but that shouldn't be too different, which is why I said 14.0 - 14.2


Would you happen to know what the TC Stall speed is, as I have never checked for myself...?

Thanks
 
DMcBrideBoston said:
With an SCT tune in my last car, I shaved .6 off my times in similar conditions the same weekend with an exact same launch method....It wasn't an LS, but that shouldn't be too different, which is why I said 14.0 - 14.2


Would you happen to know what the TC Stall speed is, as I have never checked for myself...?

Thanks
No clue. I believe I'm "flashing" the TC with my launch method.
 
DMcBrideBoston said:
Sounds good...

When it's finally dry here, I'll twist em up and find out when they break loose...
Thats not a extremely accurate way to get it. The LS is well weighted on the rear tires so it'll take more than the true stall to get them loose. They'll break free probably a little over 2k if at all. I haven't tried brake standing it much, it doesn't seem easy for it.
 
Unless ur on rocky/wet pavement I've found it very difficult to pull off a standing brake stand without letting her roll ahead a little bit at least. Those times were pretty impressive...I wish I coulda done something like that...my best was 15.3 with exhaust, intake, and Torrie's Max tune. I only had 2 runs...but I still think my best was maybe a 15.1...

The best time I've ever seen for a Gen1 LSV8 without n2o was Quik LS' time which I think was a 14.3 with probably the most mods you can possible have without n2o and sc. If Quik's work is any indication and you can run a 14.594 with just exhaust and intake that means at best the tune would add another .2 - not worth the $400 in my opinion but everyone knows what I think...just another example why...

Again...props on the impressive times!
 
StinkinLinkinLS01 said:
Unless ur on rocky/wet pavement I've found it very difficult to pull off a standing brake stand without letting her roll ahead a little bit at least. Those times were pretty impressive...I wish I coulda done something like that...my best was 15.3 with exhaust, intake, and Torrie's #1 tune. Q

uik's best time I think was a 14.3 probably the most mods you can possible have without nos and sc. Personally...if you can run a 14.594 with just exhaust and intake that means at best the tune would add another .2 - not worth the $400 in my opinion but everyone knows what I think...just another example why...

Again...props on the impressive times!
Actually I believe Quik posted 14.782 as his N/A best I thought.
 
Looks like you had a lot of fun.. Maybe we can try a Spring meet at Great Lakes Drag Way this coming spring.

I have a friend who has the race way in his back yard. We could have a BBQ at his place and then go down to the track or visa versa
 

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