2000 Lincoln LS V8 Problems

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Alright, I own a 2000 Lincoln LS with a V8 and it has been giving me problems ever since I purchases it. The problem as of now is the transmission I believe. When I put it into Reverse, it has a long delay before jumping back, and I mean jumping. Then when coming up a hill it switched to a lower gear to get more punch and when it punched, it stalled. The engine basically shut off for a couple seconds. It is also leaking a red fluid under the left portion of the front. I believe it is either transmission fluid or power steering. It is going into the shop for it's 100th time and will probably be there for another week. I would love to hear from you guys on your opinions.
 
I hate to hear you're having so many problems. The 2000 LS was a first year car so it had its problems. The transmission issue sounds like a delayed shifting problem that was corrected under TSB #01-14-5. It can be fixed if the dealer "re-flashes" the PCM. Here's a quick summary of that TSB:


Article No. 01-14-5

07/23/01

TRANSMISSION - 5R55N - DELAYED REVERSE OR
DRIVE ENGAGEMENTS - HARSH UPSHIFTS OR
DOWNSHIFTS - ERRATIC UPSHIFTS - DELAYED
DOWNSHIFTS NEAR 20 MPH - VEHICLES BUILT
BEFORE 10/17/2000

LINCOLN:
2000-2001 LS

This article is being republished in its entirety to include additional calibrations and to update the build date range.

ISSUE

Some vehicles built prior to 10/17/2000 with the 5R55N transmission may exhibit delayed Reverse or Drive engagements, harsh upshifts or downshifts, erratic upshifts, or delayed downshifts near 32 km/h (20 mph). This may be caused by the calibration of the Powertrain Control Module (PCM).

ACTION

Follow normal diagnostic procedures and verify the condition. If the condition is valid, reprogram the PCM to latest calibration level. Refer to the following Service Procedure for details.

As for the red fluid that sounds like brake fluid to me. Have you check the brake fluid level? Start there and then work your way back. Normally about 90% of your problems are corrected with the PCM re-flash so let them do that first. Remember, ONLY the dealer can do that.

Let us know how you make out.
 
GrayGhost1 said:
I hate to hear you're having so many problems. The 2000 LS was a first year car so it had its problems. The transmission issue sounds like a delayed shifting problem that was corrected under TSB #01-14-5. It can be fixed if the dealer "re-flashes" the PCM. Here's a quick summary of that TSB:


Article No. 01-14-5

07/23/01

TRANSMISSION - 5R55N - DELAYED REVERSE OR
DRIVE ENGAGEMENTS - HARSH UPSHIFTS OR
DOWNSHIFTS - ERRATIC UPSHIFTS - DELAYED
DOWNSHIFTS NEAR 20 MPH - VEHICLES BUILT
BEFORE 10/17/2000

LINCOLN:
2000-2001 LS

This article is being republished in its entirety to include additional calibrations and to update the build date range.

ISSUE

Some vehicles built prior to 10/17/2000 with the 5R55N transmission may exhibit delayed Reverse or Drive engagements, harsh upshifts or downshifts, erratic upshifts, or delayed downshifts near 32 km/h (20 mph). This may be caused by the calibration of the Powertrain Control Module (PCM).

ACTION

Follow normal diagnostic procedures and verify the condition. If the condition is valid, reprogram the PCM to latest calibration level. Refer to the following Service Procedure for details.

As for the red fluid that sounds like brake fluid to me. Have you check the brake fluid level? Start there and then work your way back. Normally about 90% of your problems are corrected with the PCM re-flash so let them do that first. Remember, ONLY the dealer can do that.

Let us know how you make out.
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Thanks a lot for the quick reply. I really appriciate it. I forgot to mention that on the display it says I need an oil change, but it has been like this for a while even when I have 50% oil life, it may explain the stall though, becuase that happened recently. Could that be due to a bad battery also?

It had to go in a dozen times for an air bag problem. They had to replace a wire for it and it still didn't work. After they did that and many other things, they called in some big shot from Lincoln and he did a detailed check on it and they endned up replacing somthing else. Once we got in it to take it the back, the engine started to smoke, so we gave then the keys and left. They then replaced the valve covers. During all of this the computer had been flased a dozen or so times. Does that clear anything else up. Anyone else have any ideas.
 
Dealers vary with experienced techs. You may have a dealer that doesn't have very experienced techs. The reason is they had to call a Ford techinician down to look at the problem. I'd suggest maybe you try a different dealer. Your repair information should be on the Oasis log so it would be easy for any Ford dealership to pull up your repair history for the past 6 months.

With that being said, I've had my PCM re-flashed three times to correct other symptoms like hard starting. It corrects most computer related items but it really takes a person familiar with the LS. If your PCM has been re-flashed then to me it sounds more like a mechanical problem.

I hate to hear about your repair problems. The LS is a great car and hopefully you can get your car repaired. Did you get an extended warranty with your car?
 
GrayGhost1 said:
Dealers vary with experienced techs. You may have a dealer that doesn't have very experienced techs. The reason is they had to call a Ford techinician down to look at the problem. I'd suggest maybe you try a different dealer. Your repair information should be on the Oasis log so it would be easy for any Ford dealership to pull up your repair history for the past 6 months.

With that being said, I've had my PCM re-flashed three times to correct other symptoms like hard starting. It corrects most computer related items but it really takes a person familiar with the LS. If your PCM has been re-flashed then to me it sounds more like a mechanical problem.

I hate to hear about your repair problems. The LS is a great car and hopefully you can get your car repaired. Did you get an extended warranty with your car?
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Sadly to say, no. We purchased the car used. :(
 
Lucas05 3 said:
Alright, I own a 2000 Lincoln LS with a V8 and it has been giving me problems ever since I purchases it. The problem as of now is the transmission I believe. When I put it into Reverse, it has a long delay before jumping back, and I mean jumping. Then when coming up a hill it switched to a lower gear to get more punch and when it punched, it stalled. The engine basically shut off for a couple seconds. It is also leaking a red fluid under the left portion of the front. I believe it is either transmission fluid or power steering. It is going into the shop for it's 100th time and will probably be there for another week. I would love to hear from you guys on your opinions.
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Sounds like low transmission fluid to me. The trans, p/s and cooling fan use the same fluid.
 
yep...I totally agree that it sounds like low atf to me

troubleshooing electical problems on these cars isn't easy...don't be upset if the dealer takes a while to get this done. There are only so many hours in a day for a tech to trace the 1000+ wires down in your car
 
MAT88GT said:
yep...I totally agree that it sounds like low atf to me

troubleshooing electical problems on these cars isn't easy...don't be upset if the dealer takes a while to get this done. There are only so many hours in a day for a tech to trace the 1000+ wires down in your car
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It's not the fact it takes a long time, it's that it goes in for the same problem and a week later it comes out "fixed", then the same day the problem reocurrs. Well, it's in the shop right now as we speak. Hopefully I will have it later today if it just needs reflashed, but I won't get it back for another week and it probably won't even work.
 
Alright, we got it back today and they practically did nothing with it. They found nothing wrong with the transmission, but the leak was due to the fact they messed up when they replaced the power steering pump a couple months ago. They put some tubing backwards and also flipped some switch. They ran dynos on it and found nothing. They know it wasn't the battery becuase they checked out fine, so that cancels out my theory. They are bringing in they transmission specialist for our next appointment, if there is one. We are going to trade it in. :(

I ran it pretty hard today and there was no stall. I had it to the floor for a good while, somthing I haven't done in a while becuase it would stall. It felt pretty good to be back. ;) I didn't try it at high speeds becuase that is when it always happened. Going 55 on a highway and giving it a lot of gas to pass someone or to get up a steep hill was win it stalled. I don't think it will stall though. Reverse is still messed up real bad. There is still a 3-4 second delay with a sharp jump.

Does anyone else have any ideas?
 
My problems may help u.

Lucas05 3 said:
Alright, we got it back today and they practically did nothing with it. They found nothing wrong with the transmission, but the leak was due to the fact they messed up when they replaced the power steering pump a couple months ago. They put some tubing backwards and also flipped some switch. They ran dynos on it and found nothing. They know it wasn't the battery becuase they checked out fine, so that cancels out my theory. They are bringing in they transmission specialist for our next appointment, if there is one. We are going to trade it in. :(

I ran it pretty hard today and there was no stall. I had it to the floor for a good while, somthing I haven't done in a while becuase it would stall. It felt pretty good to be back. ;) I didn't try it at high speeds becuase that is when it always happened. Going 55 on a highway and giving it a lot of gas to pass someone or to get up a steep hill was win it stalled. I don't think it will stall though. Reverse is still messed up real bad. There is still a 3-4 second delay with a sharp jump.

Does anyone else have any ideas?
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My 2000 Lincoln LS is in the shop right now with a bad tranny. It was caused from a bad bearing. It did the exact same thing youre experiencing, it jumps when i put it in gear and it also would hesitate to shift at about 45 miles an hour. i would have it checked quick for this, mine gave out on the road and i had no gears, coasting across 4 lanes of traffic, not fun. My car also makes that horrible beeping sound for about 5 mins after you start it, and the airabg light doesnt come on. Every 20-30 mins the car does the beeping for another 5 mins. What is this?
 
Well, we are in the same boat then. I might have to notify them of that when I go in again about the bad bearing. I think mine hesitates also. I was wondering if that was just my imagination or becuause I have been driving a compleltly diffrent car more than it becuase its always in the shop, but I didn't notice a delay like that. When mine stalled before I was on a country road and when I pulled off, my breaks then when out. I couldnt stop, so I had to pull the E-break and lucky it coasted to a stop and didn't have to throw it into Park.

As far as the beeping, what does your message board say?
 
My message board says nothing. It just beeps like no seatbelt. Do you think that it is just the fact that i dont wear my seatbelt? Does your car, or anyone else's LS, do that damn beeping? Also, do you change your Cabin-Air Filter much?
 
One other question... when i put 20's on my car, is there any rubbing? What series tire should i use to prevent rubbing and allow me to turn completely?
 
It wouldn't be your sealtbelt because Lincoln didn't have that option in 2000 models, if any of them. I know other Ford automobiles do but not yours. I haven't had any beeping. I change my filter when it needs to be changed.

Speaking of A/C, when I shut my heat off, I get a long, loud, rubbing/rumbling in the center console. It is quite strange. Any ideas there too?
 
Lucas05 3 said:
Speaking of A/C, when I shut my heat off, I get a long, loud, rubbing/rumbling in the center console. It is quite strange. Any ideas there too?
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Mine does that sometimes also. I figured it was the vaccum actuators for the air diverter(s).

BTW...my Lincoln beeps for no reason every once in a while. Sometimes going over a bump, sometimes turning a corner... nothing on the message center. It was doing it consistently over bumps when I first got it, but not so much now. I thought it might have been a door switch or something. Maybe it corrects too fast for the message center to say anything. Mine is just a single beep at a time though.
 
This is the infamous fantom beep. It is actually a very quick interupt between the trans computer and the pcm. Only the V8's (with the message center) have this "affliction". Think of it as the car talking to you.
 
LS4me said:
This is the infamous fantom beep. It is actually a very quick interupt between the trans computer and the pcm. Only the V8's (with the message center) have this "affliction". Think of it as the car talking to you.
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I've actually caught a glimpse of my message console when that phantom beep occurs. I hav an E where it shows what gear your in and a an error message of some sort in the message window. From what I understand its not too big of a deal and is common in 2000 models. I own a black 2000 V8 sport.
 
Interesting. I never thought of looking at the display to the left. I will have to try that some time. :) Really makes me wonder if it is a connection problem somewhere though.

"Scotty: The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain."
 
I've also had my 2000 LS stall on me, and experience the hesitation around 45 mph, as well as the phantom beep. I had the ignigtion coils, valve cover gaskets, and spark plug gaskets replaced. I haven't had any of the above problems in about two weeks since the repair.
 
Lucas05 3 said:
I recently have encountered the phantom beep. This is frustrating me so much.
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I too have a beep. And mine is an 01, just every once in a while. I can just be driving down the road and it will beep for no reason. I try to look at the message center as soon as it happens but I never see any error messages. So at this point I'm not worried about it.
 
Guys, the "mystery beep" is just that. It only affects message center cars, i.e. V8's. It is a brief communication failure between the tranny computer and the pcm. There is no "fix".
 
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