Hub swap progress

I wasn't aware of the brake line having to be modded if I keep the stock caliper setup...please explain.
 
Being that the Mustang caliper bolts right up I would imagine you could just get the same size Stang rotor for the fron instead of redrilling a Mark rotor.

And I dont see any need to bend the rear lines. If they need andy tweaking you could just do a slight bend by hand. The caliper isnt moved far enough out to matter.


And you need a press to get the bearings in/out.
 
Mustang rotors are smaller
And that brake line on the rear is very stiff
good luck bending it by hand
 
Wow, there has been way too many different scenarios for this swap. I thought I read that if I changed the front rotors to the mustang ones, the mark calipers won't work and I would have to do a front brake swap? I already had some new front mark 8 rotors drilled and ready for install. This is getting way too confusing.

As for the rear brake lines...haven't heard anything about the stock setup not fitting properly. Does bending the line just make it fit a little better, or is it completely necessary?

I have a machine shop that is going to take care of the bearings for me.

Thanks for all the info fellas
 
Like I said mustang rotors are too small for mark calipers
As for the rear lines its for good fitment. I will look for pics
When I get home tonight
 
You will also more than likely have to do some grinding
On the rear calipers so they clear the rotor. It should say this
in Ed's directions
 
slowmkviii said:
Mustang rotors are smaller
And that brake line on the rear is very stiff
good luck bending it by hand
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Nothing needs to be done to the stock rear brake lines (except replacing them with braided lines ;)).

slowmkviii said:
You will also more than likely have to do some grinding
On the rear calipers so they clear the rotor. It should say this
in Ed's directions
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They're actually my instructions. :cool:

http://home.comcast.net/~dlfraleigh/Article.html
 
Chucklz95LSC said:
Wow, there has been way too many different scenarios for this swap. I thought I read that if I changed the front rotors to the mustang ones, the mark calipers won't work and I would have to do a front brake swap? I already had some new front mark 8 rotors drilled and ready for install. This is getting way too confusing.

As for the rear brake lines...haven't heard anything about the stock setup not fitting properly. Does bending the line just make it fit a little better, or is it completely necessary?

I have a machine shop that is going to take care of the bearings for me.

Thanks for all the info fellas
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If you're keeping the Mark VIII calipers, then you need the Mark VIII rotors, you've done the right thing.
 
slowmkviii said:
Dlf maybe you should talk with ed about some royalty payments
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I decided not to make the relocation brackets years ago, and gave Ed my blessings.

I am planning to start making them out of Stainless Steel in the near future, though. :cool:
 
So DLF, I am good with what I have?

I have read about the slight mods of grinding that need to be done for the bracket install. The rear cobra rotors should work with my stock Mark calipers as long as I have the brackets installed correct?

Now for the front I should be able to use the Mark 8 rotors drilled to the mustang pattern with my stock Mark calipers with no problem?

Do I have to get braided lines, or is this just an upgrade I can do later?

Thanks
 
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DLF said:
If you're keeping the Mark VIII calipers, then you need the Mark VIII rotors, you've done the right thing.
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I'm running the lincoln calipers with mustang rotors and there is the offset I noticed.Will using the mustang calipers solve this issue? TIA
 
Chucklz95LSC said:
So DLF, I am good with what I have?

I have read about the slight mods of grinding that need to be done for the bracket install. The rear cobra rotors should work with my stock Mark calipers as long as I have the brackets installed correct?
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Yes, you'll need to modify the knuckles to clear the relocation brackets, and the stock caliper brackets in a couple of places to clear the rotors, as outlined in my instructions.

Chucklz95LSC said:
Now for the front I should be able to use the Mark 8 rotors drilled to the mustang pattern with my stock Mark calipers with no problem?
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I haven't done that myself, but I believe that will work fine.

Chucklz95LSC said:
Do I have to get braided lines, or is this just an upgrade I can do later?

Thanks
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You can upgrade the lines at any time.

You're welcome. :)
 
HANG THE EXPENSE said:
I'm running the lincoln calipers with mustang rotors and there is the offset I noticed.Will using the mustang calipers solve this issue? TIA
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In the front or rear?

I'm not aware of a front rotor, other than the stock sized ones that will work with the Mark VIII calipers.
 
DLF said:
Yes, you'll need to modify the knuckles to clear the relocation brackets, and the stock caliper brackets in a couple of places to clear the rotors, as outlined in my instructions.

I haven't done that myself, but I believe that will work fine.



You can upgrade the lines at any time.

You're welcome. :)
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The different combinations that can be done are what get so confusing on this swap. Then you have some people tell you one thing and others the opposite.

Most of my info came from Ed when I ordered the brackets, so I just wanted to double check to see if anything has changed. I would change out my front calipers with the cobras, but didn't want to spend the extra $$ if I can just have the Mark 8 rotors drilled.

I know this subject has been beaten to death, but it seems like there are too many scenarios and people that chime in about things that aren't necessary, and that just adds to the confusion. I like to keep things simple.

That write up is very good and much appreciated.

Anybody else that has done this hub swap successfully feel free to share your advice.
 
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I have recently finished the swap front and back using mustang(cobra) parts and the brackets from ED.I used mustang rotors and hubs for the front as well.The mustang rotors for the front are a little smaller than the lincoln so the pad contact is a little off.It still works fine you just may have to moniter the pads more closely.The reason I did all this was because the guy I bought my car from had redrilled the lincoln rotors for the rear but it was not real flash. So I started with the hubs,brackets and rotors on the back and went ahead and rebuilt the whole front end and replaced both rotors and hubs.If you have any questions I will answer what I can and what I dont know I will tell you that as well.DLF knows this stuff backwards and forwards if you check his replies. Good luck.
 
HANG THE EXPENSE said:
I have recently finished the swap front and back using mustang(cobra) parts and the brackets from ED.I used mustang rotors and hubs for the front as well.The mustang rotors for the front are a little smaller than the lincoln so the pad contact is a little off.It still works fine you just may have to moniter the pads more closely.The reason I did all this was because the guy I bought my car from had redrilled the lincoln rotors for the rear but it was not real flash. So I started with the hubs,brackets and rotors on the back and went ahead and rebuilt the whole front end and replaced both rotors and hubs.If you have any questions I will answer what I can and what I dont know I will tell you that as well.DLF knows this stuff backwards and forwards if you check his replies. Good luck.
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So that isn't dangerous for the front brakes? I was told you can't use mustang rotors at all, unless you upgrade the calipers to the cobras or similar. I was lucky and found some used cobra rear hubs, so I just had to buy the bearings from Max here in AZ.

Was it difficult to pull the rear hubs out from the knuckle? So I have to take the entire knuckle to the machine shop and have the bearings pressed out and the new ones back in?

I'm looking forward to the swap, but this is my daily driver so I want to make sure I have everything necessary to get the job done correctly and not have to be down for too long. Especially since I'm at the mercy of the machine shop getting the bearings done and they are closed on weekends.
 
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Its simple
Front
If you do if you do Gt calipers you need Gt rotors
If you do mark calipers you need to redrill mark rotor
If you do cobra calipers you need cobra rotors


As for the rear hubs if the shop does bearings a lot
It should take them 1hr
 
Chucklz95LSC said:
Was it difficult to pull the rear hubs out from the knuckle? So I have to take the entire knuckle to the machine shop and have the bearings pressed out and the new ones back in?
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Both the hubs and the bearings will need to be pressed out and back in.
 
DLF said:
Both the hubs and the bearings will need to be pressed out and back in.
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Maybe I should just find some knuckles from the junkyard and then I could have the machine shop do the work. Then I could put the brackets on after I get them back. I wish I had another car to drive, but the wife needs to go to school. How much do you think the knuckles would be? I think I read that you sell them, or do rework for people?
 
Knuckles

Chucklz95LSC said:
Maybe I should just find some knuckles from the junkyard and then I could have the machine shop do the work. Then I could put the brackets on after I get them back. I wish I had another car to drive, but the wife needs to go to school. How much do you think the knuckles would be? I think I read that you sell them, or do rework for people?
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I bought a spare set of rear spindles and built them up.I have a really neat old english flypress in my shop and it made quick work of removing and installing the bearings and the hubs.I am in Georgia and if you were here I would help you do it.H e l l, Id let you use my lift too.They shouldnt charge you that much to change everything out but make sure they seat the hubs all the way.I will be getting some cobra front calipers here shortly for mine.
 
slowmkviii said:
Its simple
Front
If you do if you do Gt calipers you need Gt rotors
If you do mark calipers you need to redrill mark rotor
If you do cobra calipers you need cobra rotors


As for the rear hubs if the shop does bearings a lot
It should take them 1hr
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Slowmark,Thank you for that info.I was hoping there was a remedy for the misalignment on the front cobra rotors with the calipers.
 
HANG THE EXPENSE said:
I bought a spare set of rear spindles and built them up.I have a really neat old english flypress in my shop and it made quick work of removing and installing the bearings and the hubs.I am in Georgia and if you were here I would help you do it.H e l l, Id let you use my lift too.They shouldnt charge you that much to change everything out but make sure they seat the hubs all the way.I will be getting some cobra front calipers here shortly for mine.
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I guess I will have to drive to Georgia then.:D So did you buy them used or new? Just wondering if you might have a contact or website for a pair with a decent price.

Thanks for the offer btw
 
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