Battery for the LS
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605RezlifeLS
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I just got an Interstate battery and my stock battery wasn't even connected to the vent tubes? supposedly it didn't need to be connected directly or something, it creates enough ventilation as is... I really don't trust it however for the passed 8 years the battery vent wasn't directly connected and was fine... no idea, confused me, but I am looking into connecting the vent tubes anyway.
rickztahone
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i had to get a battery yesterday due to my red top optima crapping out. i never vented the red top due to the fact that i forgot about the vent tube when i used dynamat to cover my trunk. now that i have a regular battery (bosche 750 cca, not sure what class) i wish i knew where that vent tube is. it's probably not even there anymore. plus, that battery doesn't have to vent since none of the auto parts stores had the vented batteries that i wanted. i will call the dealer to try to get an OEM and see if i can return the battery to pep boys. the only place i didn't check was Napa because they closed early. regardless, i need to find that vent tube. anyone have a pic of it and it's location?
gcwimmer
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The top of the photo's is the passenger side and the right of the photo's is the end of the car:
Andrizzle
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It is extremely rare for your alternator's regulator to fail. And even more rare for it to fail and 'overcharge' instead of undercharge. And even more rare that any expelling of gas out of a dry cell battery would amount to something that would 'cause an explosion in the cabin'. And even more rare that it would vent gas at all. It takes massive overcharging to screw up a good quality dry cell battery.
I have seen the results of overcharging dry cell batteries and it is not pretty, but there was no explosion of any sort. And it only occurred from overcharging, on purpose. In car audio competitions you need all the voltage you can get, and people push these batteries to their limits and then some. Professional shops also install these batteries inside cabins of cars and vehicles used for daily driving, in addition to competition vehicles. It is not rare to see batteries inside the cabin of a car. What IS rare is a dry cell battery killing you because you don't have a plastic hose connected to it. I would say it is barely plausible. Just an opinion, of course.
I think it is safe to say, unless you are throwing your battery on a charger and sending a 16 volt trickle charge to it overnight. You are fine.
joegr
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... I would say it is barely plausible. Just an opinion, of course.
I think it is safe to say, unless you are throwing your battery on a charger and sending a 16 volt trickle charge to it overnight. You are fine.
Let's hope that your opinion doesn't get anyone killed. I'm sure that some engineer at Toyota said that the conditions that trigger uncontrolled acceleration (due to some design flaw(s)) are very very rare and in their opinion unlikely to kill anyone.
rickztahone
Dedicated LVC Member
thank you very much for the pics, it really does help, but at the same time i see that i'm screwed since i'm positive i used the dynamat right over that spot. do you know if they sell the hose by itself?
It is extremely rare for your alternator's regulator to fail. And even more rare for it to fail and 'overcharge' instead of undercharge. And even more rare that any expelling of gas out of a dry cell battery would amount to something that would 'cause an explosion in the cabin'. And even more rare that it would vent gas at all. It takes massive overcharging to screw up a good quality dry cell battery.
I have seen the results of overcharging dry cell batteries and it is not pretty, but there was no explosion of any sort. And it only occurred from overcharging, on purpose. In car audio competitions you need all the voltage you can get, and people push these batteries to their limits and then some. Professional shops also install these batteries inside cabins of cars and vehicles used for daily driving, in addition to competition vehicles. It is not rare to see batteries inside the cabin of a car. What IS rare is a dry cell battery killing you because you don't have a plastic hose connected to it. I would say it is barely plausible. Just an opinion, of course.
I think it is safe to say, unless you are throwing your battery on a charger and sending a 16 volt trickle charge to it overnight. You are fine.
Have you ever watched Mythbusters? your reply had the makings of one, lol.
Lastly, i called the stealership and 3 of them didn't even know what a vent was for in a battery. one was trying to sell me a 500cca battery. the 750cca one was 150 plus tax, for that amount i might as well just buy another optima. i'm happy with the Bosche i bought, and i will try to find the vent tube, but if not then oh well, i had the optima for 3+ years without venting and i never had a problem (knocks on wood
)gcwimmer
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thank you very much for the pics, it really does help, but at the same time i see that i'm screwed since i'm positive i used the dynamat right over that spot. do you know if they sell the hose by itself?
It would probably be easer and cheaper to find hose at a home improvement store. I know both Lowe's and Home Depot have different size hose sold by the foot.
It would probably be easer and cheaper to find hose at a home improvement store. I know both Lowe's and Home Depot have different size hose sold by the foot.
rickztahone
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thanks for that. do you happen to know the ID/OD? well first i have to find the motorcraft battery for my car in order for me to vent it
. so, not all the batteries have the vent hole (or whatever it is called)?
It is extremely rare for your alternator's regulator to fail. And even more rare for it to fail and 'overcharge' instead of undercharge. And even more rare that any expelling of gas out of a dry cell battery would amount to something that would 'cause an explosion in the cabin'. And even more rare that it would vent gas at all. It takes massive overcharging to screw up a good quality dry cell battery.
I have seen the results of overcharging dry cell batteries and it is not pretty, but there was no explosion of any sort. And it only occurred from overcharging, on purpose. In car audio competitions you need all the voltage you can get, and people push these batteries to their limits and then some. Professional shops also install these batteries inside cabins of cars and vehicles used for daily driving, in addition to competition vehicles. It is not rare to see batteries inside the cabin of a car. What IS rare is a dry cell battery killing you because you don't have a plastic hose connected to it. I would say it is barely plausible. Just an opinion, of course.
I think it is safe to say, unless you are throwing your battery on a charger and sending a 16 volt trickle charge to it overnight. You are fine.
classic case of Darwinism!!
What typically happens is a simple spark will cause the hydrogen gas to explode, not your alternator theory of overcharging.
Do us a favor and caulk the trunk shut and then post the pictures when the car explodes.
Andrizzle
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You do not follow a post very well. We are talking about dry-cell batteries, not traditional wets that expell gas as they charge. The only time a dry cell battery will vent gas is when it is abused in an overcharging scenario.
Lrn2Read
joegr
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The problem is that he may take some passengers with him.
hey douch-drizzle, go back and look at the OP. This did not start off as a dry cell battery question.
GFY!!!!!
joegr
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BTW, there is at least one case on this very message board where a member's LS had the voltage feedback wire to the alternator chewed apart by a rat. The end result was that it was charging the battery at 16V+. Rare does not equal never.
There have been other members that have mentioned that their electrical systems were running in the 15V+ range, which is also likely to cause out-gassing with any battery.
Your mind is made up on this. I write this mainly for the others that might read this thread.
Honestly, for about $10 and about 30 minutes of simple work, it's very cheap insurance to just make the vent tube. All the parts I bought at a home improvement store in the plumbing section. Except for the 2 part epoxy (which I used to secure the vent tube to the stock exit location in the spare tire well) and the silicone (which I used to secure the tube to the vents on the battery). I used silicone on the top of the battery because then I can remove it if I need to.