Twin Turbo Mark VIII
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Pretty much the whole story on this page.
read the article, it tells alot about the guy.
"dont just skip down to the lincoln"...lol
http://www.competitionplus.com/2005_09/gene_deputy_feature.html
read the article, it tells alot about the guy.
"dont just skip down to the lincoln"...lol
http://www.competitionplus.com/2005_09/gene_deputy_feature.html
Not on a properly sized turbo for the intended application.
Turbo lag is only an issue when you run a big turbo, or a "too big" turbo I should say.
on my SVO after we were done with the car on a free neutral rev it'd make 3lbs of boost. That car with it's short intake tract and an exhaust housing swap had nothing that could even be considered "lag".
a guy in a small block nova after getting whacked by the svo pulled up along side and shook his fist, and yelled "Yer Sprayin"!!!....
all I could say was "thanks dood!"
he didn't realize I only had 4 spark plug wires either.. poor guy.
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ssmoparviii
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What about a super charger? That would be cool to do to a Mark.
ford nut
Local nut case
Haw a light weight!!!!
Ken Duttweiler owned him!
I used to love watching Hurley Blakeney's twin turbo 1995 Thunderbird door slammer run super comp.
They made the pro stock boys look like small fry's.
That car was in the 6's or it ran 10's it was all in how much wheel hop, none of the runs were in a straight line.
Not a street car by any means.
phreakness
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A twin turbo in a mark viii, not without some SERIOUS modification to the engine bay. The mustang has its K-member setting further back in the frame than the Lincoln. There is a good 6-8 inches between the front of the engine and the back of the radiator fan assy. plus the mustang engine bay is about 1.5" wider on each side. And forget about using the stock or aftermarket k member it would need to be custom.
Saying that I think it can be done, but not with an 'off the shelf' system. You'd need all custom exhaust
Saying that I think it can be done, but not with an 'off the shelf' system. You'd need all custom exhaust
Duttweiler..meh..
Duttweiler never invited me to his shop and wasted hours of his time talking to me..
I knew Gene before he got all the magazine coverage from him and his daughters street racing escapades in her 87 Turbo T/A.
She used to wreak havoc amongst the mustang and grand national street racer crowd
Well said.
most folks think/assume that the mark 8 has more room than a mustang does in the engine bay.
if you look at a DOHC 4V in a mustang, you can actually "see the ground" between the drivers side head and the shock tower.
on the mark 8 the only ground you can see is right in front of the motor..
well of course a TT EFI car will run circles around a "mandatory N/A carbed car".
Genes Mark 8 could likely be a #1 qualifier in a PS field THIS weekend
htrdlincoln98
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A turbo mark will never work. You'd have to custom make every thing. Not even worth it.
poniesviii
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SO, I read up on turbos today, and understand a little better. But for a street car I still don't see the effort, unless you're just trying to be an individual, and don't mind tweaking with things all the time. I sure wouldn't want to drive a tt mark from cali to new york.
And, hotrod 98, aren't you the one doing a turbo?!? :slap:
And, hotrod 98, aren't you the one doing a turbo?!? :slap:
MediumD
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Or, if you do it right, you won't have to tweak anything once the setup is dialed in, and you can drive as far as you want. There are PLENTY of factory turbo cars that do just fine. All you have to do is not suck, or have people not suck for you, and driveability is fine.
poniesviii
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I should've said, I'd rather have a broad torque curve rather than wait for a bunch of torque up top, in a street car. I've seen a couple supra street races in person (from rolling 50's mind you) and a bunch on youtube and they're always playing catch up. They never aren't. When they do catch up they're f'n flying (which implies they have ALOT better dyno numbers-and they're still catching up?). Most fun in a STREET car is from zero, or below 100mph anyways. Those supras don't ever seem to catch up before that with a 300? whp difference.
I started creating an arguement so that maybe I would get enlightened by something unknown, ..and I've read alot, and I'm still where I started.
htrdlincoln98
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Turbos don't have lag like you are impliing if it is set up to get boost in the low rpms. Centri SC like vortecs are a turbo compressor thats run off the belts. The power from one of those is very high in the rpm's. Only the roots or twin screw SC give good low end power. But there's good and bad with that. On the street you'd be hard pressed to plant that power off the line. Where as if the power came in later you could put it down. Also that means you would be driving around on the highway in the boost. Not the easiest on the motor. Turbos can be set up to have full boost by 2500 rpm, with a stall converter that means at launch. So wheres the lag in that. Its all in the sizing of the turbo. Small means quick boost large means later boost but more power.
poniesviii
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...the power come later you could put it down...
That's kind of a good point. I would just assume not to mash the gas until I know I'm rolling enough to open it up, on a street car.
I was definately referring to a roots or twinscrew type of blower.
And I don't know about driving down the highway in alot of boost like you're implying..
And on these motors in particular, with our side bolts and teksid blocks that have been proven to withstand close to 2000 hp, I wouldn't be too worried about the load on the crank from a blower.
That's kind of a good point. I would just assume not to mash the gas until I know I'm rolling enough to open it up, on a street car.
I was definately referring to a roots or twinscrew type of blower.
And I don't know about driving down the highway in alot of boost like you're implying..
And on these motors in particular, with our side bolts and teksid blocks that have been proven to withstand close to 2000 hp, I wouldn't be too worried about the load on the crank from a blower.
htrdlincoln98
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2000 hp possible but that would take alot of work. Like filling the water passages with cement. And all the internal parts changed. Stock our cars are good for 450ish Hp.
poniesviii
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Right, but I'm not going to go through the trouble of adding any boost to a factory setup.
Lol, you know how you read debates for education, at least when I do- I think to myself "If I was already educated on this and in this debate, it would be over!" Ha, but I understand why the turbo vs blower is always a debate. The turbo guys are retarded!!
Lol, you know how you read debates for education, at least when I do- I think to myself "If I was already educated on this and in this debate, it would be over!" Ha, but I understand why the turbo vs blower is always a debate. The turbo guys are retarded!!
poniesviii
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........just kidding. Haha.
To each his own I guess. There's a reason why both exist, but I think turbos are meant more for ultra high HP/TQ more than anything.
To each his own I guess. There's a reason why both exist, but I think turbos are meant more for ultra high HP/TQ more than anything.
htrdlincoln98
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:lol:
MediumD
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...You've got a mind about as quick as a hEaton car compared to a Hellion car...