May be time for the LS to go.
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Stopsign002
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Thats really my main issue with a lot of the Fords that are coming out right now. I refuse to buy a FWD car. AWD is cool (Taurus SHO, which probably handles like crap I would imagine), but RWD is hands down my favorite
2002_lincolnLS
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dude, get over your self, none of my plastic is cracked or dried out, my 81 Catalina had the same exact style interior.
To give you an idea of how this car is far from luxury, a guy I work with just got his son a 1984 volvo, it has leather, heated seats, power windows power seats. what for it, it cost 700 bucks and runs better with more mileage than an LS....
I will not try any more to show that this is not the most incredible car in the world. Leather, power windows and a lincoln badge doesn't make it a luxury car, but it's astronomical price may have.
Also I have been, I test drove the G8 with a 6.0 liter. it didn't creek and raddle. Don't let a :q:q:q:qty previous owner trick you into think GM is junk.
GM is years a head of Ford/Lincoln
1LoudLS
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+1 for an XF. I have become obsessed with them once I found out in another thread how affordable they are used. Unfortunately when I say affordable, that is aimed towards people who have more money than me LOL. Someday....
Stopsign002
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Yeah, I dont know about GM being years ahead of Ford, but the lack of a RWD option besides the mustang kinda makes me not happy with Ford atm, not to mention their terrible handling of Lincoln for the last decade.
I test drove a SHO. It had a very rally-car'ish feel, like a Subaru. I'm sure it handles fine, but it is just a different feel them a RWD V8. I liked the car, but I wasn't in love with it, so I didn't buy one. I'm in no rush so I will take my time and get something I want.
It's nice to be picky sometimes
Bingo! I'm of the same opinion as you. I don't think GM is light-years ahead of Ford as much as it is they are choosing to focus on different things. What exactly Ford is focusing on is somewhat of a mystery to me at the moment. It seems they are building cars to meet the future regulations hence the push towards the EcoBoost engines. GM is obviously trying to resurrect itself and become solvent in order to meet their gooberment loans. It's easy to take big strides and risks when you are more desperate. Whether things like the CTS-V will ultimately be profitable depends on the investment put into it. Last I checked, they had yet to get a TCO in the black although they are doing better then Chrysler.
05 LS8
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Actually, a lot of what Black said is very true.
Take a look at the interior in the mustang and a camaro, you might change your opinion about GM being ahead of Ford.
Stopsign002
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Yeah the interiors in the new Fords seem to be really top quality, but I haven't had much personal time with them so I cant say for sure
I feel like Ford is going for balance. The new engines seem to have decent HP with the ecoboost and all (which is a turbo pretty much correct?) and the interiors seem really nice. But they dont seem to be excelling to top notch in any particular category. I wish they would release a V8 eco'd RWD fusion with the new styling, but I know I'm dreaming lol
I feel like Ford is going for balance. The new engines seem to have decent HP with the ecoboost and all (which is a turbo pretty much correct?) and the interiors seem really nice. But they dont seem to be excelling to top notch in any particular category. I wish they would release a V8 eco'd RWD fusion with the new styling, but I know I'm dreaming lol
Well it does look better than straight black.
I mean the overall look is better.
What is there to get over?
I like luxury cars and yes the LS is a luxury car. I wont list the features cause you already know what i have. If im gonna spend $20K on another sedan it would be an XF which is 10 times more car than a G8 ever could be. Has Luxury with performance and im sure the suspension is better too.
Take the engine out of the G8 and its just a four door grocery getter. I never said the LS is the best car in the world....far from it. But its not junk or plain either and they can come with plenty of features for a damn good price.
Im not trying to be a stuck up :q:q:q:q:q:q:q....but after having all the features i have a G8 wouldint cut it for me. Now an STS-V, 5 series BMW or an AMG would...you get the picture.
NYC LS8
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I think what he's getting at is that you always seem to feel the need to defend the LS. It's a car. Who cares, really.
Ugh so you don't think the LS is a luxury car??? Then what type of car would you label it?
jmtiseo
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At the end of the day you are going to drive what you want to drive. Sounds like you're going to have a lotta fun shopping.
A money pit? Funny, I sold my truck to get something I thought I couldn't modify. Thought "Who tinkers with a Lincoln?" Found LVC and boy was I wrong.
A money pit? Funny, I sold my truck to get something I thought I couldn't modify. Thought "Who tinkers with a Lincoln?" Found LVC and boy was I wrong.
joegr
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Ugh so you don't think the LS is a luxury car??? Then what type of car would you label it?
Technically, it's in the "near luxury" segment.
1LoudLS
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Ugh so you don't think the LS is a luxury car??? Then what type of car would you label it?
entry level luxury sports sedan. nothing more, nothing less.
NickT88LSC
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It's a coil eatin, DCCV chewin, wheel bearing grinding, Trans solinoid fryin Ford/Jag interbreed.
BTW, if the LS had more balls it would be dead on, but since it does not and some people feel the need for speed a G8 is a nice option right now, plenty of aftermarket, reasonably priced to purchase and upgrade.
Now some of the little things the LS has may be missed, but to tell you the truth I dont know all the options in a G8, like I would miss the compass, dual power seats, Info center, blah blah blah, that is what bought me back to Lincoln after getting a Mercury Grand Marquis, I hated it.
BTW, if the LS had more balls it would be dead on, but since it does not and some people feel the need for speed a G8 is a nice option right now, plenty of aftermarket, reasonably priced to purchase and upgrade.
Now some of the little things the LS has may be missed, but to tell you the truth I dont know all the options in a G8, like I would miss the compass, dual power seats, Info center, blah blah blah, that is what bought me back to Lincoln after getting a Mercury Grand Marquis, I hated it.
Well i thought we were on a Lincoln LS forum and we all loved these cars??
I understand there are better cars but for the money the LS is spot on.
And im fine with that as i bought mine for about 75% less than what it cost brand new and it will be paid off in December.
JoshMcMadMac
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There is a difference between loving something for what it is, and defending it to extents it is not.
Like I said sometime in the future I hope to own an XF because the LS is getting dated and lacking performance that I want.
I've only had the car going on two years now and it is an all option 06...if it weren't for the HID's and woodgrain and all the options it would not feel as luxurious to me.
2002_lincolnLS
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Ugh so you don't think the LS is a luxury car??? Then what type of car would you label it?
well when I see what other cars I know are not considered luxury have the same options and more power, I would call it over priced.
I mean if this is luxury what is Aston Martin, Bentley, Mercedes... How can you put this car in their class. It's some what cheaply made, look at all the interior parts that break on these cars, seat backs, vents, handles, the center console button, the cheap leather, so on.
My Girl friends sunfire has 200,000 miles and she beats the :q:q:q:q out of it and nothing is broken in the interior.
Sorry, after owning one, I will not buy another. I love my car because what i have done to it, but you have to be insane to act the way some of you do about the LS. It is a good looking car but remember people are aloud to replace it with something better.
Comparing nearly 10 year old performance to today is ludicrous. When the '03 LS debuted it bested the BMW that was it's competition. Sure, there are much better performing cars today. So what?
How many LSes that eat bearings have (heavy) aftermarket wheels? I'd rather replace a DCCV than a blend door any day!
How many LSes that eat bearings have (heavy) aftermarket wheels? I'd rather replace a DCCV than a blend door any day!
I drove new Acuras and Lexuses last year. They were nicer than my '00 LS. But the entire difference was due to the 12 years that had elapsed between the production date of my car and the new cars I drove.
2002_lincolnLS
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yes, and if you read what I posted earlier, a friend and co-worker has an 84 Volvo with all the same options as my car, and more. so where does that put the LS?
All I am trying to say, is anytime someone on here is buying a new car, you claim the LS can not be replaced by anything in its price range that is comparable. That is partially true do to the way the car has depreciated, and what does that tell you about a car? Well? it tells you it's not desirable, Toyota corollas hold their value more than an LS.
joegr
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I would very much like to see this 84 Volvo with HIDs, electronic stability control, ABS, traction control, LEV (low emissions), airbags (front, side, curtain), active seat belts, GPS navigation, heated and cooled seats, memory seats, steering wheel position, adjustable memory pedals, rear radar, auto up and down windows, electronically shifted transmission with manual control, CD changer, garage door opener, aluminum suspension, 51/49 weight distribution, keyless entry, keypad on door, ...