I just bought these 2 days ago, saw the ad on craigslist for a 97 mark viii for sale and the guy said he would throw in the wheels for an extra $500 so I called him and asked if he would sell them seperately and he agreed. They are 18x9s which I haven't seen much of on this site, mostly the 17s, but they are in pretty good condition, I had to clean the backs up a bit but theres no pitting or flaking anywhere. The tires will have to be replaced soon, but they should last me through the summer just fine..I'm already pondering if I can go wider with the tires, the current ones are 245/45/18, but they are pretty close in the rear to rubbing the fender if I lower it or go over a bump, not sure how much wider I can go...anyone have these size rims with wider tires in the rear and no fender rolling??