Why you want to do that to your car?…

Some people need to take a joy ride in either of the following, C63, C55, E55, E63, S600, S55, S63, Volvo s60R, BMW 540 sport 6 speed, Audi RS6, CTS-V, Infiniti M45...theres so many to list.
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<------ Has driven every single one of those. :D One of the perks of working for a Mercedes dealer. Also driven several Rolls, a Bentley Continental GT, a Maserati Quattroporte, and a Cambiocorsa Coupe. And I got to ride (was kind of disappointed though to tell the truth) in a Gallardo convertible last year.


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As I woke up this morning I remembered that most all of the guys working at the transmission places I had list stated that my transmission would be working harder with a shift kit. Now then, according to most all information that I read about shift kits is that they help take stress of the transmission. I wonder why the people who work on transmission would hate on them and the people who sell parts would speak so highly of them?
Is it just paid propaganda from the part sellers, do the places that work on transmission have there points or are they just full of there own crap???
 
Its cause they are not performance orientated business's.

If you want that extra pull than its good for you but most people that would go to them just want the daily driver trans fixed and feeling smoooth.
 
Hello pot (Quik) my names kettle (me)...

I hope I didn't hurt Quik's feelings with that comment I made earlier. He's one of the pioneers in my eyes of this whole crazy modifying trend we have with our Ls’.
 
Lucky_Ls said:
I've gotten 02LSE96LSC91SE84TC feelings on harder shift tune vs. shift kit. What do the rest of you think?:confused: I know a lot of you already have Xcal's so there maybe some bias but I ready for it.


I have an SST on my LS and I use it from time to time and I can live and enjoy the firm shifts (as long as I shift it when I'm supposed to). If that's all its comparable too I can live with it!
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I just recommend you try to dial in what you want with the tune before going into the expense of the shift kit. It doesn't sound like you have your firness to strong. Passengers heads jerk in my car when it shifts if I'm into the gas.
 
Lucky_Ls said:
Hello pot (Quik) my names kettle (me)...

I hope I didn't hurt Quik's feelings with that comment I made earlier. He's one of the pioneers in my eyes of this whole crazy modifying trend we have with our Ls’.
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I doubt you're going to hurt his feelings. Quik seems to has thick skin. If you did strike a nerve he'd call you over to the bitch slap thread and take care of it.

And aren't firm shifts better for the transmission due to the fact it doesn't have to slip as long? That's what my dad told me way back when he taught me to drive a stick (I was 10 so my memory could be way off).
 
I really was asking 'why' to understand what problems you were hoping to solve with the shift kit.

Since you already have a SCT unit - try firming up the shifts using that first. It should firm up the shifts, reduce shift speed and even change the shift points (if needed).

A mechanical kit can do more - but costs to put in and difficult to tweak, costly to remove.

I only use a SCT and happy with it.

Firmer shifts will reduce wear on the clutches, and other components that wear with slip - but at a trade of being harder on the shafts and gears since they have to take the torque transfer more abruptly.
 
Quik LS said:
I really was asking 'why' to understand what problems you were hoping to solve with the shift kit.

Since you already have a SCT unit - try firming up the shifts using that first. It should firm up the shifts, reduce shift speed and even change the shift points (if needed).

A mechanical kit can do more - but costs to put in and difficult to tweak, costly to remove.

I only use a SCT and happy with it.

Firmer shifts will reduce wear on the clutches, and other components that wear with slip - but at a trade of being harder on the shafts and gears since they have to take the torque transfer more abruptly.
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Thanks for the feed back Quik. I'll give the tune a try.
Can you give me tips on where I should set the firmness and shift points?
 
I just up loaded the pre-set firm shift file from the Xcal and MAN!!! IT FEELS AWESOME! I have more response from acceleration at a dead stop and faster on the throttle response once I get going! Don't really feel any real hard shifts though.
I may still put in the shift kit just cause that whole transmission working harder thing is in the back of my mind and now with the program I feel like it's telling it to work even harder.

On another transmission note you guys that run into your transmissions over heating what's the issue with that? Are you guys running a stiff/hard shift program or is it just the transmission giving out on you?
 
did that guy really tell you to put a chip in after you told him you had an SCT? Please tell me you slpped the taste of his mouth! LOL


I've had my tune on the tranny no for about 15-20k miles. I actually went into the adjustables and made it stiffer. This car takes every last bit of the power and sends it right to the road. There are two things that I hate from "car guys" and they say them all the time!!!!

"LS transmissions are slushboxes" I call BS 5r55's are behind the new stangs and we all know what some of the stang guys have done!!!

"you need a shift kit to get more power" first off, do what ever you want to the tranny, the ENGINE MAKES THE POWER second off, its an electronically controlled tranny, there is lots of room to adjust through programming, and other things you can do to the drive train to get better use of that power
 
The guy at National Transmission argued with me about what transmission my car has. He said that my 02 LS has the 5R55S tranny and that this shift kit from Transgo won’t work and I told him NO it has the 5R55N and that the part number for this shift kit works for the 5R55S/W AND N transmissions and it even states that on the box! I’m getting the feeling that the guys at the transmission places just didn’t want the trouble of installing a shift kit on a Lincoln.

Wouldn’t having a shift kit installed on in the transmission make it more adjustable?

As far as tunes go I have pre-loaded tunes from Torrie.
 
it doesnt matter how much power the enigne makes.... if you trans cant get it to the ground!

the shift kit is really a fix for this piece of a trans.... look here:

#55SK. Transgo Shift Kit fits 5R55S / 5R55W / 5R55N. Comes with pump alignment tool. Fixes Lockup Complaint: Upgraded parts and data. Reduces need for a new pump and valve body. Fixes: Won’t move—cold noise. Has: Pump Accumulator assembly; Lockup valve and pump alignment tool; EPC relief assemblies. Cost $68.00

so does SCT say it fixes these problems????


I might install mine my self... they really aren't that hard to do...

I think tranny shops don't want to install them becuase they want you to bring them your broke trans to fix, not make it last longer
 
NHLSV8 said:
"you need a shift kit to get more power" first off, do what ever you want to the tranny, the ENGINE MAKES THE POWER second off, its an electronically controlled tranny, there is lots of room to adjust through programming, and other things you can do to the drive train to get better use of that power
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lincoln00 said:
#55SK. Transgo Shift Kit fits 5R55S / 5R55W / 5R55N. Comes with pump alignment tool. Fixes Lockup Complaint: Upgraded parts and data. Reduces need for a new pump and valve body. Fixes: Won’t move—cold noise. Has: Pump Accumulator assembly; Lockup valve and pump alignment tool; EPC relief assemblies. Cost $68.00
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exactly what do you read into this?
 
lincoln00 said:
it doesnt matter how much power the enigne makes.... if you trans cant get it to the ground!

the shift kit is really a fix for this piece of a trans.... look here:

#55SK. Transgo Shift Kit fits 5R55S / 5R55W / 5R55N. Comes with pump alignment tool. Fixes Lockup Complaint: Upgraded parts and data. Reduces need for a new pump and valve body. Fixes: Won’t move—cold noise. Has: Pump Accumulator assembly; Lockup valve and pump alignment tool; EPC relief assemblies. Cost $68.00

so does SCT say it fixes these problems????


I might install mine my self... they really aren't that hard to do...

I think tranny shops don't want to install them becuase they want you to bring them your broke trans to fix, not make it last longer
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what are you running that have more power than ILLS turbo LS and Quicks SC LS....... both are running on SCT no shift kit no problem!
 
not saying sct shift kit is a problem.... im saying its better to build the trans to shift BETTER then it is to increase fluild level pressure to make it do it.... like the SCT
 
i never said i made more power then them.... But i will say that they probably would benefit from a shift kit instead of a shift improver
 
lincoln00 said:
not saying sct shift kit is a problem.... im saying its better to build the trans to shift BETTER then it is to increase fluild level pressure to make it do it.... like the SCT
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what exactly do you think a shift kit does?

I do not disagree that a mechanical shift kit has advantages over electronically modifying the control - however - it depends greatly on what the kit includes.
 
Quik LS said:
what exactly do you think a shift kit does?

I do not disagree that a mechanical shift kit has advantages over electronically modifying the control - however - it depends greatly on what the kit includes.
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and what your doing with it?
 
lincoln00 said:
i never said i made more power then them.... But i will say that they probably would benefit from a shift kit instead of a shift improver
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if they are fine with proper tuning then they wouldn't benefit from one.... that's the point..... they are fine. its not needed at their power levels and logically speaking you should be fine with less power. You could take that money and put it elsewhere. when you get to where these trannies need help, then worry about helping them out. There are SEVERAL nitrous LS taking that hard shot with just tuning....some without even being tuned. I agree a shift kit with tuning is better than tuning, but its an unnecessary precaution at the level of every LS posted on here.
 
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