Water-Methanol Injection

[97 Octane]

Let's discuss. This is new to me. The thought of water being dumped into
to the cylinders makes me think of locking pistons and other bad things.

But apparently, this injection process is a good thing whenever you
are looking to add more power. Seems the military have known this for a long
time and have used it on heavily bomb laden piston bombers take off
with more power on short runways during wwII.



There are several benefits to this method as it turns out. It prevents engine
knock, creates higher octane, reduced Nox and Co emmissions,
increased fuel economy with added power, cools engine combustion chambers and allows greater compression ratios for higher
power output and efficiency.


I like the idea of having more power and being fuel efficient at the same time.

Has anyone had any experience with water methanol injection? First time
I seen it is when I was browsing through my Summit Racing catalog.




Below are two Methanol injection systems for the Lincoln Mark VIII.

This one is an adjustable boost activated system.
Easy 60-90 minute installation time.
250psi pump and injectors.
Long tubes for convenient trunk mounting.
Pre-wired and tested from Robs Tire and Auto.

This one is for carburated or forced induction engines.
Digital progressive controlled.
Advanced tune boost activated system.
Features for the average driver to the most serious racer.
Easy to install. Trunk mount.
All hardware included.



Both systems are said to give immediate response when you need it. I don't
know if that means at or near WOT.

What kind of 1/4 mile times improvements would be expected from a stock
setup?





Ren

 

[LaserSVT]

Fairly useless untill you have forced induction. The cost of the kit plus the expense of a dyno tune for a 2hp gain is not worth it. With a blower/turbo it makes a significant difference because you can add more boost and timing to maximize power but on a stockish NA motor its not gonna help you. That 2hp gain will be lost by the weight of the tank alone.

 

[Don Pfau]

That is the Meth injection system I have in mine. Love it. Looks like a mini fuel cell. Great for forced induction. I got mine from Rob or RobertP also.

 

[Right on the Mark]

X3 only for forced induction setups.

 

[slowmkviii]

I know a guy running it n/a on his mark and with my fat ass in the car with him it ran a 14.6
Also has a chip and factory dual exhaust.

 

[JAX.TRUX]

water meth injection

I know a guy running it n/a on his mark and with my fat ass in the car with him it ran a 14.6
Also has a chip and factory dual exhaust.

Lasers close to right - now if you could only get 87 octane the w/meth injection might do some good but being you can get 93 or so it don't help all that much in a n/a motor - the water/methanol injection does really good at preventing detonation so you can crowd the timing - you get the most power out of an engine right before detonation. that's why e/85 does so well with a power adder.
I'd give it 10 to 12 hp using w/m injection but you need to change the timing and fuel map to make it work - getting kinda on the edge scary - especially if you don't have forged pistons,
Throw the pressure to it - throw the timing to it - throw the fuel and a hot spark to it and make big power numbers - just got to keep it cool enough to not pre-detonate

 

[98LSC32V]

Lasers close to right - now if you could only get 87 octane the w/meth injection might do some good but being you can get 93 or so it don't help all that much in a n/a motor - the water/methanol injection does really good at preventing detonation so you can crowd the timing - you get the most power out of an engine right before detonation. that's why e/85 does so well with a power adder.
I'd give it 10 to 12 hp using w/m injection but you need to change the timing and fuel map to make it work - getting kinda on the edge scary - especially if you don't have forged pistons,
Throw the pressure to it - throw the timing to it - throw the fuel and a hot spark to it and make big power numbers - just got to keep it cool enough to not pre-detonate

It gets to a point where more timing is not going to give you more horsepower. Right around 30 degrees at WOT which you can safely run on 91-93 octane.

 

[97MarkJA]

Let's discuss. This is new to me. The thought of water being dumped into
to the cylinders makes me think of locking pistons and other bad things.

But apparently, this injection process is a good thing whenever you
are looking to add more power. Seems the military have known this for a long
time and have used it on heavily bomb laden piston bombers take off
with more power on short runways during wwII.


Ren

The old fighters had it too, it was called WEP. War Emergency Power.
I'd say if you already had one give it a shot; other wise you could just switch over to e85 and get the same effect.
Most of the mustang guys on boost see the power start to flat line around 23* or so, depending on the cams.