gt95coupe
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Wanted A Hid Kit
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Ok well, like I said, Im not trying to start a riot here... just basing this off my past vehicles and what I've been told and what I've seen. So I can just buy an HID kit (bulbs/ballasts) and throw it in the stock housing no problem?
and just to show you what I mean, these are from my Focus message board. I guess it's specific to Focus headlights... but I dont think so.
Stock Reflector housing with HID:
HID-specific housing (projector in this case):
Stock Reflector housing with HID:
HID-specific housing (projector in this case):
skizot722
Well-Known LVC Member
-2 An HID bulb has a radically different focal point than a halogen bulb, so what you've described cannot happen. And can you also explain to me why the reflector was redesigned for the 03+ LS, that came with HID as an option, if you can use an HID bulb with the halogen reflector that was in the 00-02 LS? I'm also guessing you don't think there's any glare in E.M.'s first picture?
eastcoastLS
Dedicated LVC Member
If you have a Gen1 or Gen2 LS that did not come with HID's from the factory, just purchase some Gen2 HID LS headlights. Then when you install your HID kit, install the new headlights and you will have a 100% HID lighting system. It is apparent the 2000-2002 LS headlights are not meant for HID's.
p.s. If you plan to put the HID headlights in your 2000-2002 LS, you will need the 2003-2006 LS light bar.
p.s. If you plan to put the HID headlights in your 2000-2002 LS, you will need the 2003-2006 LS light bar.
skizot722
Well-Known LVC Member
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Here's a link that illustrates my point about the halogen reflectors. This is not an 00-02 LS, but that really doesn't matter. This car has one HID kit in one headlight and the other stock to show the differences, but you can also tell just how much glare you get. Also notice that the halogen side is actually putting out more usable light on the ground, where it counts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcX63e7peV0&search=Hidding
PatrickSimmons
Photographer
I'm going to jump in the fire too. You will definatley have glare if you put an hid kit in stock halogen reflectors unless you retrofit the projector lenses in like a few people have done on here a while back.
I have hid's in my stock halogen reflectors too but the key is to aim them downwards, which you will lose a bit of lighting, so you won't blind other people on the road.
I got mine from Utizma but lskoncepts is the best way to go here imho if you plan on going plug-n-play.
Good luck!
I have hid's in my stock halogen reflectors too but the key is to aim them downwards, which you will lose a bit of lighting, so you won't blind other people on the road.
I got mine from Utizma but lskoncepts is the best way to go here imho if you plan on going plug-n-play.
Good luck!
PatrickSimmons
Photographer
Yes they are. I have a 1st gen and lowered mine. All you need is a 4mm socket. To move them up and down there is a little screw on the inside that can be moved up and down. I don't have a scanner but it is in the owners manual and it was posted on here quite a few times too.
Edit: Page 237 in the manual
skizot722
Well-Known LVC Member
I don't think you could aim them far enough down to eliminate the glare. Glare is uncontrolled light, so aiming the headlights down a little bit isn't doing anything.
LOL. Not trying to keep the fire going strong, but the best way to go, would be to retrofit some projectors into the stock housing. The second best way to go, would be to get a pair of headlights off an 03+ LS and put them on your 00-02 and then buy one of the kits off of lskoncepts (or if you've got the money, the OEM ballasts/bulbs). I think there have been a few people on this board that have done that.
Maybe the headlight eyebrows help? I honestly don't think there is a huge amount of glare, but agree 100% that projectors would light up the road a hell of a lot better than the retrofits I have in there now:
Do they glare? Yes. Terribly? I don't think so...
Do they glare? Yes. Terribly? I don't think so...
PatrickSimmons
Photographer
Here is one of the retros I was talking about. http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?t=33920&highlight=projector+headlights
Looks really nice and plan on doing it myself but I haven't had any complaints from people being blinded no more that any oem's (which can still blind you, especially on trucks and suvs).
To the OP, it's up to you which route you wanna go and how much you want to spend. I love mine which are in halogen reflectors and they really light up the road. I wouldn't go over 6k on a kit but that's just my opinion.
Looks really nice and plan on doing it myself but I haven't had any complaints from people being blinded no more that any oem's (which can still blind you, especially on trucks and suvs).
To the OP, it's up to you which route you wanna go and how much you want to spend. I love mine which are in halogen reflectors and they really light up the road. I wouldn't go over 6k on a kit but that's just my opinion.
skizot722
Well-Known LVC Member
PM me if you need any info/help when you get ready to do it. I just finished my projector retrofit a few weeks ago and I couldn't be happier with the results.
I'm also a member of this site: http://www.hidplanet.com . The forums there have an invaluable amount of information on automotive lighting. The people there have helped me out tremendously.
PatrickSimmons
Photographer
Check out the link I posted. He has a couple of wall shots with a pretty sharp cutoff.
PM me if you need any info/help when you get ready to do it. I just finished my projector retrofit a few weeks ago and I couldn't be happier with the results.
I'm also a member of this site: http://www.hidplanet.com . The forums there have an invaluable amount of information on automotive lighting. The people there have helped me out tremendously.
I'm a member there too but I'm not as deep into it as they are and they don't seem to be nice to noobs. i will definately hit you up as soon as i get ready. I would love to go with a TL projector but not sure how they would look on the LS.
skizot722
Well-Known LVC Member
The TL projector is one of the better projectors out there. And if I got LS430's to fit in my headlights, then I'm sure you could get the TL's to fit in yours.
And yeah, they are somewhat harsh with noobs there. LOL. I tried to read up as much as I could before I started asking questions.
PatrickSimmons
Photographer
Any pictures of your setup? You can send them through pm if you want. Don't wanna take over this man's thread.
gt95coupe
Dedicated LVC Member
Yes you can I mounted my ballasts on the underside of the radiator support brace that is covered by the large plastic piece
gt95coupe
Dedicated LVC Member
You also can prove that it was also changed for the HID option. Car manufacurers change little thing almost every year for example 2005-07 toyota avalon headlight were all the same with the HID option they changed them in 08 along with a few other little things. Kinda reminds you of the 1st gen LS and the 2nd gen.This crap can be argued all day long like whether or not to have legal or illegal tint on you windows. besides Ive seen glare coming from acura RLs or any other HID OEM car
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skizot722
Well-Known LVC Member
You obviously have no clue what you're talking about, and besides, there's nothing to argue here. Halogen reflectors are not meant for HID bulbs. You will end up with tons of glare, period. End of story.
gt95coupe
Dedicated LVC Member
and just to show you what I mean, these are from my Focus message board. I guess it's specific to Focus headlights... but I dont think so.
Stock Reflector housing with HID:
HID-specific housing (projector in this case):
Thats comparing apple and oranges two diffrent reflective options. of course they will look diffrent.
gt95coupe
Dedicated LVC Member
I never said they were ment for HIDs. In some headlight housings you will have glare and some not as much or at all. .[/QUOTE]End of story.[/QUOTE]
skizot722
Well-Known LVC Member
gt95coupe
Dedicated LVC Member
I didn't post those pictures.
I know
someone else did.I was simply saying that the projectors are a have a very specific beam pattern compared to a reflective housing. THe person who posted it compared the to somewhat.