I gotta say once again i never saw any issues with my first LS. Bought an '02 with 63k, drove it for a year and traded it in with 88k. Not one problem. According to the Oasis report it had an extended warranty from the original owner and the only thing ever fixed was the alternator and new battery. I spent money on tranny flush and fuel filter just due to mileage, didnt have any drivability issues. I think the dealer you buy from, the previous owner, where it was driven, all these things need to be considered. I bought both my LS's from the same dealer and my family has purchased a total of 7 cars from the same place, all have been very reliable.
Tranny out!
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Midas78
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Fla02LS said:
What dealer do you go to? I've had a bad experience at almost all of them in the Orlando area, I bought my LS (w/64k miles) from Longwood LM and about 2 months later I needed the COPs & VC gasket replaced ($$). Now I have the clockspring problem and can't get the CEL off (which I had the coils replaced and new cats installed.) I'm up to 108k miles now and I'm starting to feel the rough shifts - new transmission soon...... or a new car.
Longwood LM has a very bad reputation. The place i have been buying from is a lease turn in type of dealer, not an actual dealership. They have great prices. Just paid $19k for my '05 Ultimate. Their inventory is changing constantly, so when i saw the new LS i jumped on it. They still have my old LS listed, called it blue?? Its black. But if you put in a request they can find what you want. As far as servicing i go to Mullinax Ford in Apopka. They have always done me right.Midas78 said:
http://nationwidefleet.com/
http://www.mullinaxfordfl.com/pages.../default.asp?NavID=1&PageID=3000&content=edit
P.S. Just noticed Mullinax has a 2003 LS for sale.
StinkinLinkinLS01
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VanDarela said:
Haha. Bitch card. C'mon now buddy.
So I said I don't "beat" on my LS, and I raced it. Big deal. I did race it more than most people on this site simply because most people race theirs "on the way to work" and in other situations similar to that. In all honesty not once did you hear/read my talking about being extra hard on my tranny or doing anything really stupid. It wasn't until I got the XCal and started messing with that that I had any problems with anything. It is possible to race a car on the weekends (for fun, running 15-16 seconds in the 1/4 mile) and not cause any long term damage. I raced my LS for all of maybe 7 months maybe 1-2 weekends a month. I wasn't out doing brake stands, redlining it, doing donuts (very hard on rear-end), downshifting excessively or carelessly. With the exception of a few highway races it was all basic mash the gas til 70-80 mph and let go. Nothing too special, for christ sakes, it is an auto, like Fla said.
If you guys were in my car and you heard the way that XCal made my belts squeak like a blowoff valve and the whole car just jolt you would think the same thing. I drove around without the XCal, everything was fine. I havent raced my LS in like 2 months other than trip to the track that included all of 2 runs. I drove around after the track and everything was okay until I gave it wot trying to get onto the highway and that is when it happend, right when that hard shift hit. Who's fault is it, well if my math is correct
would say it is 25% Xcal, 25% regular 91,xxx miles wear and tear and 50% my own fault for thinking I could race the LS. 
When all is said in done, did I expect to break something racing my car? No. Did I expect to have to pay to play? Yes. Was I willing to take my chances? Yes. Did I have a feeling the day I got the XCal that a malfunction in something was inevitable if I kept using it? The tune didn't really brake my tranny. It just seems that way.
Not saying this device/Torrie's tunes won't work for others. But it just didn't work for me.
ToddG
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Stinkin'
Glad to hear the trans got fixed with only a solenoid.
One point I would make is that if I was the warranty company, there is NO WAY I'd cover a new transmission given the things you've done with the car. The warranty covers wear items, but not abuse or heavy modification that occurs when one uses and drives a car modified with XCal.
If you came to me asking me to honor a warranty and knowing your modifications and drag-racing tendencies, I'd politely tell you to go pound sand.
Glad to hear the trans got fixed with only a solenoid.
One point I would make is that if I was the warranty company, there is NO WAY I'd cover a new transmission given the things you've done with the car. The warranty covers wear items, but not abuse or heavy modification that occurs when one uses and drives a car modified with XCal.
If you came to me asking me to honor a warranty and knowing your modifications and drag-racing tendencies, I'd politely tell you to go pound sand.
StinkinLinkinLS01
Well-Known LVC Member
"Heavy modification"? This statement loses me, I'm not sure what heavy modification you are referring to. Please enlighten me.
"Drag-racing"? C'mon now. I know that technically I was "drag-racing" my LS but usually (but not always) real drag-racing includes things like heatin up the tires, using "power-adders", (i.e. turbo, sc, n2o) and running better than 15.3 at the track! lol!
Either way, I get the point.
On a side note, everything that has happened to me and my car has been expected from the day I got it except for one thing. When I purchased it I wasn't planning on racing, ever, at all, it wasn't even somethig I thought about doing.
When I started doing minor modifications (intake & exhaust) that most any car should easily withstand the LS was fine. It wasn't until the Xcal came into the picture that problems began to arise.
From the sounds of things the solenoid is something that a lot of LS owners have after a period of time, regardless of how you drive the vehicle. Although I do believe the XCal played a large part in "finishing if off".
I just had a buddy who blew the motor to pieces (literally) in his '06 Cobalt SS with less than 3,000 miles on it. Of course the warranty paid for everything, no ?s asked.
Those STEALERSHIPS overcharge so much and rip so many people off they could replace a tranny for free in my car and it would not impact their bottom line in any way whatsoever. It is a drop in the bucket to them.
The STEALERSHIPS take every chance they can to squeeze an extra dime out of you! Why not do the same to them?
AND either way, this was an aftermarket warranty!! It wasn't even a warranty from Lincoln, so why would it matter to Lincoln who pays for the work?!?!
I didn't have to bring it to the dealership if I didn't want to. They should be thanking me for my business if anything!!
Regular everyday drivers have habits that cause much more wear and tear on their vehicles than I do mine. Like people who ride the brakes, repeatedly tapping the brakes, burnouts, DONUTS, WHICH COUNTLESS MEMBERS HAVE DONE. All of these things cause more wear and tear than smashing the gas from a dead stop to 80mph.
And last but not least. For a guy who claims to race his car more than anyone on here (myself, obviously) I haven't had nearly as many problems as others have claimed to have had.
In the year and a half I've had the LS and the 30,xxx miles I've put on her I've only had to replace the window regulator, 6/8 engine coils, and the tranny solenoid. I've seen people with a laundry list of problems that I'm sure would tell you have never abused their vehicles.
Chew on that...
"Drag-racing"? C'mon now. I know that technically I was "drag-racing" my LS but usually (but not always) real drag-racing includes things like heatin up the tires, using "power-adders", (i.e. turbo, sc, n2o) and running better than 15.3 at the track! lol!
Either way, I get the point.
On a side note, everything that has happened to me and my car has been expected from the day I got it except for one thing. When I purchased it I wasn't planning on racing, ever, at all, it wasn't even somethig I thought about doing.
When I started doing minor modifications (intake & exhaust) that most any car should easily withstand the LS was fine. It wasn't until the Xcal came into the picture that problems began to arise.
From the sounds of things the solenoid is something that a lot of LS owners have after a period of time, regardless of how you drive the vehicle. Although I do believe the XCal played a large part in "finishing if off".
I just had a buddy who blew the motor to pieces (literally) in his '06 Cobalt SS with less than 3,000 miles on it. Of course the warranty paid for everything, no ?s asked.
Those STEALERSHIPS overcharge so much and rip so many people off they could replace a tranny for free in my car and it would not impact their bottom line in any way whatsoever. It is a drop in the bucket to them.
The STEALERSHIPS take every chance they can to squeeze an extra dime out of you! Why not do the same to them?
AND either way, this was an aftermarket warranty!! It wasn't even a warranty from Lincoln, so why would it matter to Lincoln who pays for the work?!?!
I didn't have to bring it to the dealership if I didn't want to. They should be thanking me for my business if anything!!
Regular everyday drivers have habits that cause much more wear and tear on their vehicles than I do mine. Like people who ride the brakes, repeatedly tapping the brakes, burnouts, DONUTS, WHICH COUNTLESS MEMBERS HAVE DONE. All of these things cause more wear and tear than smashing the gas from a dead stop to 80mph.
And last but not least. For a guy who claims to race his car more than anyone on here (myself, obviously) I haven't had nearly as many problems as others have claimed to have had.
In the year and a half I've had the LS and the 30,xxx miles I've put on her I've only had to replace the window regulator, 6/8 engine coils, and the tranny solenoid. I've seen people with a laundry list of problems that I'm sure would tell you have never abused their vehicles.
Chew on that...
Quik LS
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blah, blah, blah.....
so either is was a 'normal' failure that you and your driving style had nothing to do with - and warranty should cover it.
or you broke it by racing around and modifying your car - pushing the limits of the stock components - and warranty should not cover it.
In either senario - you blame the car:
- stuff broke - the LS is a piece of junk
- I broke it - the LS is a piece of junk because I was a fool for thinking it would go fast...
and you will still post after my posting - defensively trying to explain why we need to keep hearing you explain what exactly?
so either is was a 'normal' failure that you and your driving style had nothing to do with - and warranty should cover it.
or you broke it by racing around and modifying your car - pushing the limits of the stock components - and warranty should not cover it.
In either senario - you blame the car:
- stuff broke - the LS is a piece of junk
- I broke it - the LS is a piece of junk because I was a fool for thinking it would go fast...
and you will still post after my posting - defensively trying to explain why we need to keep hearing you explain what exactly?