djknowledge
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also did he grow the said tree....
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also did he grow the said tree....
FASTLLS
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Maybe.. that's what took so long to get it installed.. 
1LoudLS
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Well thank you for showing us how little you know about sound systems. The only reason that amp manufactures put a gain knob on their amps is because they don't know what the output voltage will be on your radio (since radios vary so much) and they need to be able to properly adjust to match the radio's outputs. Therefore you do use the gain to compensate for voltage, if the radio has lower output voltage then the gain WILL be set higher than if the amp was connected to a radio that has a higher output voltage
Low output voltage = higher gain setting
Higher output voltage = lower gain settings
1LoudLS
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If your running the factory speakers then an amp might not be a great idea, the factory speakers con not handle a lot of power, and putting a amp on them will definitely make it a lot easier to blow them. however if you really do want to amp them then you really wouldn't need a lot of power (40 - 50 watts X 4 should be plenty) but I would highly suggest looking into getting replacement speakers that can handle the power your looking for. But if you don't want to replace the speakers then at least use the HPF (high pass filter) on the amp
to take out a lot of the bass to reduce the chance of blowing them
I know plenty my friend.
The gain knob introduces distortion and makes the amp work harder, i know a bit about sound i used to do audio production. Yes you can use the gain to compensate for voltage, but if you want GOOD sound you should not.
That is why i said you should go for 4v vs 2v outputs. matter fact if you can turn the gain down a bit, even better. Basically get the best quality original source.
Andrizzle
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1LoudLS is correct, you set the gain to the position based on your pre-outs off your head unit.
You gotta do the little gain formula and use a DMM to read the output off the amp and once you reach the number from the formula, you have set your gain correctly.
You gotta do the little gain formula and use a DMM to read the output off the amp and once you reach the number from the formula, you have set your gain correctly.
well im a bit of an audiophile and we always go with the highest quality signal possible.
I keep my gain and bass boost low, and my voltage high. yes i know theres a ratio for matching the output level to the amp, but if you can get a higher output then why not??
I keep my gain and bass boost low, and my voltage high. yes i know theres a ratio for matching the output level to the amp, but if you can get a higher output then why not??
1LoudLS
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for the simple reason that not everybody is going to be as picky as you sir, in fact very few people are willing to pay a lot extra for something that they probably wouldn't notice, as most people would have a difficult time telling the difference between the two, of course there are a lot of us people that can hear the difference and would benefit form having a better headunit with the cleanest signal available, but most customers will be more than happy with a decent set of speakers, a good clean amp with a small amount of power and a headunit that has good control of the sound and plenty of adjustments, not everybody out there is going to buy the highest end products available, and it is important to provide customers with a good value for their money, if somebody walks in and only has $2k to spend on an entire system, then their not going to be able to afford the best of whats out there, so their options would be to either get a really good complete system, or a super great headunit and maybe 1 set of speakers which wouldn't sound as good to them. you have to be able to remove your own personal taste and feelings out of the equation, and put your self in their shoes to meet their needs because if i went into every sale telling people that they had to spend $5k to get everything that I have and say they need, i wouldn't make any sales. and throwing out a incorrect blanket statement that im wrong and that you should "never" do that is just plain silly when that is the correct way to adjust the device!
Agreed my apologies for the blanket statement.
Now you dont need to spend that much for good quality either...pioneer has a nice double-din dvd headunit with 4v preout for $320. That with some polk components, a 4 channel amp and a single 10" sub and mono amp will give you great sound for not too much money.
I like the stock system that came with my ls, its the best sounding factory system ive heard in any vehicle. Even the bose systems dont compare.
Now you dont need to spend that much for good quality either...pioneer has a nice double-din dvd headunit with 4v preout for $320. That with some polk components, a 4 channel amp and a single 10" sub and mono amp will give you great sound for not too much money.
I like the stock system that came with my ls, its the best sounding factory system ive heard in any vehicle. Even the bose systems dont compare.
1LoudLS
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the only good factory systems ive ever heard where the lincoln THX, and the lexus Mark levinsten packages.
the bose systems never seem to sound too good, kinda flat with no real crispness to them, and way too "muddy" in the midrange.
yes the polk sp's are pretty nice and not really too expensive, i used to like infinity and kappa a lot, but ever since they went to 2ohm speakers, we've had nothing but problems, like the radio overheating after long drives and we've also had a lot of tweeters blow out which is kinda unusual.
the bose systems never seem to sound too good, kinda flat with no real crispness to them, and way too "muddy" in the midrange.
yes the polk sp's are pretty nice and not really too expensive, i used to like infinity and kappa a lot, but ever since they went to 2ohm speakers, we've had nothing but problems, like the radio overheating after long drives and we've also had a lot of tweeters blow out which is kinda unusual.
+1
I love the thx sound system, good stuff and the subs have good base too. My friend has a bose system in his g37s and the salesman told him he could pretty much have the speakers at full blast without blowing them out. He always drives with his windows down with the radio practically at full volume to show off.They are loud and dont get distorted, but the sound isn't as rich or filling as the thx sound and it doesn't have much base either, which I was surprised in that. I dont think my thx system could go as loud as his but the sound is better and I really dont need to put it so loud to blow my ear drums to enjoy great sounding music. I rarely go over 1/4 volume, plus it's actually too loud on some songs when my ipod is connected.
1LoudLS
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no highs, no lows, system must be bose!
Better sound through research...My A$$!
maybe if they didn't spend so much time and money engineering the enclosure to make such crappy drivers try to sound good, and actually spent some research into better speaker components they might be able to get much better sound out of them.
i'm sorry, but no speaker that cost that much should be made with paper cones and foam surrounds, you dont see me out on my deck trying to start my grill by rubbing two sticks together. time to try some new materials instead of just having one little paper driver in a cube to handle most of the freqs and one small sized bass module to handle all of the rest.
Better sound through research...My A$$!
maybe if they didn't spend so much time and money engineering the enclosure to make such crappy drivers try to sound good, and actually spent some research into better speaker components they might be able to get much better sound out of them.
i'm sorry, but no speaker that cost that much should be made with paper cones and foam surrounds, you dont see me out on my deck trying to start my grill by rubbing two sticks together. time to try some new materials instead of just having one little paper driver in a cube to handle most of the freqs and one small sized bass module to handle all of the rest.