Squires Turbo System (STS Turbo) Anyone ever finish an install?

Don't forget that if you change the gearing - and if you are using your LS as a highway driver - you could potentially be running a lot more rpm, both annoying and bad for gas mileage.

Well aware, sir. I didn't buy a v8 for the awesome gas mileage :p

Any annoying sounds are taken care of via the 1200watts of continuous power in the trunk :D
 
Well aware, sir. I didn't buy a v8 for the awesome gas mileage :p

Any annoying sounds are taken care of via the 1200watts of continuous power in the trunk :D

Back in my day(3yrs ago) I was running my T/A open header, now thats some continuous power, fron under the hood tho lol Nothing beats a high compression small block sound wise.
 
If you dont know what 1 & 2 do you shouldnt even be bothering yourself with the complexities of a turbo system. Dont get your feelings all hurt by this comment either, I cant that sh!t.

#2 wouldn't be the best idea if you were going to go turbo because then engine would rev so fast with those gears that the turbo wouldn't spool to get full boost, not at first anyway. You want to be able to load the turbo up a little bit. The automatics in these cars have a very close 1st 2nd gear, you could loose time because of this with such low rear end ratios. On the top end you'd be fine though. An LSD is good and 3.73 ratio I think would be wiser with these cars with a turbo.

I'm not really a big fan of turbos on gas engines. Diesel it's great because you don't need torque this instant, but you do need to build a lot of torque to move heavy loads so the delay in power delivery is acceptable. With gas engines I like the power on demand, the instant you push the throttle.

I'll probably never FI my LS because it doesn't make sense money wise to supercharger it when I could get more power cheaper from a turbo. Twin turbos would spool faster, but much more $ for that. A rear mount system would be fun, but like I said before, I don't like to feel the power build, I like to feel it right now. I did think about buying a used rear mount system from a member on here when I supposed to get a lump of money, but it fell through. I am however going to tune my car and still racking my brain on the fluidampr underdrive pulley...
 
im still doing mine. just had to put it on pause for a minute while i put my audi s4 back together. you can build your own rear turbo for waaay less than the sts kits. i know quik said the v8s have some issues that need to be sorted so its easier on the 6 like mine. i just need a few more little things and some garage time to assemble it all. mine will be done this summer. hopefully in july.
 
journal bearing turbo under 1000
tilton oil pump under 200
intercooler maybe 300
oil lines and fittings maybe 150
2 inch piping from rear to front under 100 if you dont use stainless
mustang slotted maf ive seen them for like 50
ford gt pump 100
03 cobra injectors found them for like 100
a y pipe that combines stock exhaust to one 3inch welded up at a shop with wastegate flange and turbo flange should be under 500
misc vaccum lines and boost gauge under 150
38mm wastegate around 200
blow off valve around 100
sct excal and custom tune around 500
however much one of those air filter covers are to block water

these are all ballparks and some can be less if your resourceful and get good used parts as well. stainless steel piping is more money for sure, so i just say use aluminized and clean it really well and cerami coat it black.
 
If you replace the intake manifold with a custom one, we can use the same injectors.. Keeping the stock rail. But guess what that means.. CHA CHING $$$$$$$
 
Right. As of right now, I believe quik is the only one with a different manifold. And his is a one-off.
 
Not for long! I plan on supercharging this b!tch next summer.. I already have someone who will cnc the mani.. I just gotta keep saving..

Sorry for me dreaming.. It will get done though.. :)
 
I know the CR on our cars is a bit high for tons of boost as one of you guys said. I'm curious on the thickness of the piston crowns and whether or not the pistons could be milled down say .005 or so for a drop in CR. IIRC I don't think there are any aftermarket pistons for the 3.9. Not sure if it could be done properly on this engine, but have read about it being performed on flat-tops.
 
Please see photos in my 'Land Speed LS' thread to find out about aftermarket pistons and rods.
On another subject, manifolds are interchangeable and swapping to one from a different (later?) engine will take care of the injector problem. Modifying by use of epoxy is another option.
KS
 
if you can keep the cylinder temp and pressures down, stock internals will take more than people think.
 
Response from STS

Here is the response I got from STS turbo in regard to one of their systems on a Lincoln LS:

Thank you for contacting STS Turbo regarding our remote mounted turbo systems!

Yes, we have a great solution for your application! It is called our Universal Single (or Twin) Turbo System. Even though this is not officially a bolt-on system for your application, our Universal Systems have been successfully installed on thousands of satisfied customers' vehicles over the years. Let me explain the general course of action for getting one of our Universal Systems successfully on your vehicle.

First, we will get you in touch with one of our many STS Power Dealers that have experience installing our Universal Systems.

Next, they will work with you on getting you a quote for putting it on your vehicle, and will also discuss your tuning options. As part of the install of a Universal System, they will have to fabricate custom piping to fit on your vehicle, so the quote will be higher than just the installation of one of our bolt-on systems. However, the combination of the lower Universal System price (starting at only $1,995.00 for the single and $2,995.00 for the twin) and the higher Universal install price is normally quite comparable to the total price of one of our bolt-on systems plus normal installation.

Also, please keep in mind that even though STS cannot be responsible for the tuning option that a Universal System customer chooses for his vehicle, STS Turbo will strive to help as much as we can with tech questions or other advice. The STS Power Dealer who does the install will, of course, be another point of contact for tuning support.

So the end result is that you will enjoy all the benefits of our patented Remote-Mounted Turbo System just as much as our customers that have our bolt-on systems! That is why our Universal Systems are our best selling products.

Please contact me any time and we can discuss the various components you would need for your system.

Thanks!
-Andrew Pulley
Regional Sales Manager
 
well I was told 8K, so if someone can find it for 3K let me know :)
 
well I was told 8K, so if someone can find it for 3K let me know :)

if the universal tubo set up is 2k, I doubt they'll do all the custom work and install for 1k. I was told it would be about 3K+ for a super install at a shop a asked at a while ago. This was just for labor.
 
Alex, remember the LS at the Knott's show, That was a very clean install. So I would expect that to cost some good money!
 
Yeah it was, thats why I doubt he can find one for 3k.
 
Alex, remember the LS at the Knott's show, That was a very clean install. So I would expect that to cost some good money!

Yea, except for the distance the plumbing to the ground! I doubt that car would clear a driveway, let alone a speed bump!

It did look really nice under the hood, though! Pictures really didn't do it justice!
 
In regard to the concern about too much CR for high boost, the use of methanol as a 'chemical intercooler' takes care of the problem. High CR works very well with methanol, due in large part to the cooling effect that methanol introduces.
KS
 
I've seen your pics with the rod and piston cammer and it looks good! How available are the pieces going to be?
 
The pistons are from Ross and the rods are from GRP. The 4 litre Jag engine I'm using as a core has a slightly longer stroke, so both the rod and the pin location in the piston will need to be changed. But they're full custom pieces so I'm sure that it's possible to order them to fit the 3.9.
KS
 

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