Replaced the LS

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It was finally time to replace the LS. I bought a 2015 Hyundai Genesis 5.0 Ultimate last week.

It appears my LS has already sold. I found the ad last week, but not it's gone. Maybe the new owner will be on here.

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That's a factory Korean emblem, first installed by enthusiast owners and since the latest refresh of the Genesis it comes standard.

It's a shame Ford thinks luxury car buyers don't want a rwd v8 platform anymore. If Hyundai figures out how to fit their 5.0 into a coupe they're going to sell a ton of them.
 
That's a factory Korean emblem, first installed by enthusiast owners and since the latest refresh of the Genesis it comes standard.

It's a shame Ford thinks luxury car buyers don't want a rwd v8 platform anymore. If Hyundai figures out how to fit their 5.0 into a coupe they're going to sell a ton of them.
I think Ford is just way out of touch with the luxury car market, Lincoln has no direction and is set on a crash course for failure. There really isn't anyone they compete with anymore, Cadillac has picked up and left them in the dust, and now 'a days a Buick is better built and more well equipped then a Lincoln, and at a fraction of the cost. They need to stop just stamping Lincoln badges on already existing Ford cars and only making minor tweaks. They need to introduce something that makes an impact, much like the CTS did for Cadillac. They got their s**t together and built a whole new car from the ground up, new engine, new platform, new everything, and look what it's achieved, it's one of the major reasons you can still go into a Cadillac dealership and buy a brand new car. Unfortunately for Lincoln, I feel it's too late for them to do so, the Luxury car world has left them behind. :(
 
I think Ford is just way out of touch with the luxury car market, Lincoln has no direction and is set on a crash course for failure. There really isn't anyone they compete with anymore, Cadillac has picked up and left them in the dust, and now 'a days a Buick is better built and more well equipped then a Lincoln, and at a fraction of the cost. They need to stop just stamping Lincoln badges on already existing Ford cars and only making minor tweaks. They need to introduce something that makes an impact, much like the CTS did for Cadillac. They got their s**t together and built a whole new car from the ground up, new engine, new platform, new everything, and look what it's achieved, it's one of the major reasons you can still go into a Cadillac dealership and buy a brand new car. Unfortunately for Lincoln, I feel it's too late for them to do so, the Luxury car world has left them behind. :(

Lincoln got the LS in before the CTS mind you. They separated their directions a long time ago. I would look at how Cadillac's sales are struggling right now. It doesn't make sense to spend the r&d to compete with brands with God like followings.

Lincoln has moved into the Asian market and will probably be as successful as Buick. Margins are good, products remain mostly competitive in their designed market. I don't see the problem other than it's not the BMW fighter it never should of been.
 
Congrats on the new ride. Great choice btw, Enjoy!
 
Lincoln got the LS in before the CTS mind you. They separated their directions a long time ago. I would look at how Cadillac's sales are struggling right now. It doesn't make sense to spend the r&d to compete with brands with God like followings.

Lincoln has moved into the Asian market and will probably be as successful as Buick. Margins are good, products remain mostly competitive in their designed market. I don't see the problem other than it's not the BMW fighter it never should of been.
While that may be true, wasn't the LS largely based off of a Jaguar? Basically a Jag under Lincoln skin? The CTS was literally built from the ground up with new parts and design. The LS also cost a significant amount more then the CTS did. I think the problem with sales is the price jump from the models they're replacing. Beamer and Benz people will have a hard time considering it because it's not a Beamer or a Benz, and the Cadillac people will have a hard time putting out the extra money. I don't think the cars themselves should be in question, from what I've seen in almost every review of them, people are loving them. I'm not saying that Lincoln should have tried to be a BMW fighter, but to me what they make now is just rebadged Ford models, practically everyone of them if not all of them. Cadillac might have the ATS and CTS that majorly compete with the German Imports, but I think they still make a nice American luxury car, the XTS and Escalade have really nothing European like about them. I just feel like Lincoln's glory days have long gone, and won't be returning for a while.
 
While that may be true, wasn't the LS largely based off of a Jaguar? Basically a Jag under Lincoln skin? The CTS was literally built from the ground up with new parts and design. The LS also cost a significant amount more then the CTS did. I think the problem with sales is the price jump from the models they're replacing. Beamer and Benz people will have a hard time considering it because it's not a Beamer or a Benz, and the Cadillac people will have a hard time putting out the extra money. I don't think the cars themselves should be in question, from what I've seen in almost every review of them, people are loving them. I'm not saying that Lincoln should have tried to be a BMW fighter, but to me what they make now is just rebadged Ford models, practically everyone of them if not all of them. Cadillac might have the ATS and CTS that majorly compete with the German Imports, but I think they still make a nice American luxury car, the XTS and Escalade have really nothing European like about them. I just feel like Lincoln's glory days have long gone, and won't be returning for a while.

No it was a joint platform developed by both used in the Thunderbird, Mustang and Ford GT to a far lesser extent. Ford did own Jaguar.

The LS and Cts were similarly priced. Cadillacs largest volume sellers are rebadged GM products i.e. Tahoe, LaCrosse/Impala, Saab 9-4.

Yeah their glory days or days of no competition are over. You can thank globalization.
 
No it was a joint platform developed by both used in the Thunderbird, Mustang and Ford GT to a far lesser extent. Ford did own Jaguar.

The LS and Cts were similarly priced. Cadillacs largest volume sellers are rebadged GM products i.e. Tahoe, LaCrosse/Impala, Saab 9-4.

Yeah their glory days or days of no competition are over. You can thank globalization.
What ever, I would say the biggest rebadge is the Escalades (Tahoe,Yukon) and Navigators (Expedition) , but The XTS and Impala look more different then they do the same. I wouldn't be ashamed to own either, I think they're both very slick looking cars. I would love to own a new CTS but my Tahoe is still fairly new. I'm getting a Deville then a DTS anyway, I'd rather pay $4,000 for my dream car I want, but don't need then $50,000+. Still love my 04 CTS to death, I drove her brand new, and I'm going to drive her till she dies!
 
Have you looked at Lincoln in the last few years? They're moving away from Ford. Look at the second generation MKZ/Fusion. They're barely the same car. The new MKC stands apart from the Escape. My favorite part is how Lincoln offers engines one step higher than Ford (3.5 V6 turbo MKZ, 2.3L turbo 4 MKC). While ugly, the MKT is pretty far from the Flex as well.

Sure, the Taurus/MKS, Exped/Navi, and Edge/MKX are still pretty clearly Fords, but I'd give them one more model generation to see what Lincoln can do with them. 2005ish-2012ish MKZs were awful though Iin terms of looks... Fusions with grandpa's bushy eyebrows and glasses

How do you feel about Audi being VW models?
 
Have you looked at Lincoln in the last few years? They're moving away from Ford. Look at the second generation MKZ/Fusion. They're barely the same car. The new MKC stands apart from the Escape. My favorite part is how Lincoln offers engines one step higher than Ford (3.5 V6 turbo MKZ, 2.3L turbo 4 MKC). While ugly, the MKT is pretty far from the Flex as well.

Sure, the Taurus/MKS, Exped/Navi, and Edge/MKX are still pretty clearly Fords, but I'd give them one more model generation to see what Lincoln can do with them. 2005ish-2012ish MKZs were awful though Iin terms of looks... Fusions with grandpa's bushy eyebrows and glasses

How do you feel about Audi being VW models?
Maybe I exaggerated a bit, I'll be honest. The MKX was the last Lincoln I've been in though, so maybe it left a sour impression on me. As for Audi they're irrelevant to me, not to say they're bad cars, I just have never been interested in them before, not interested in them now, and most likely won't be interested in them in the future.
 
I think the 2016 MKX is stunning and I'm not one to like crossovers. Lincoln definitely has winners in the crossover segments, rebadged Fords or not. That is what's selling right now. Cadillac needs to update the long in the tooth SRX if they want to be able to sustain the CTS and ATS.
 
I think the 2016 MKX is stunning and I'm not one to like crossovers. Lincoln definitely has winners in the crossover segments, rebadged Fords or not. That is what's selling right now. Cadillac needs to update the long in the tooth SRX if they want to be able to sustain the CTS and ATS.
I haven't been in the new one yet. I'm sure they'll be updating the SRX soon, I prefer the first gen SRX myself, and you could get it with a V8. I almost bought one some years back, much like my CTS just a cross over.
 
...3.5 V6 turbo MKZ...

nope, the MKS got the 3.5TT Cyclone V6, the 1st gen Z's got the non turbo 3.5NA Cyclone V6 and the 2nd gens got a 2.0T as the base or the 3.7NA Cyclone V6 also used in the pony.
 

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