Racing a Mark 8 on Fri

Nice job. If you add the R/T and the amount you won by on thet first slip...you KICKED his azz. I bet several car lengths.

Important to note it looks like his best was still not as good as your worse. So you would win no matter what race he had his best. Also never lost R/T.

I bet it felt nice receiving the $50...spending it already doesn't matter.

Good job on getting you 60' down. a 2.09 is awesome. My best is 2.123 I believe.

You have the best Gen1 N/A 1/8th now. Mine was 9.305. I'm still on 3.31s...likely the difference. Come on 4.10s.

I figure that 9.23 to be a 14.3 for sure. Your 9.28 should be a 14.4 very low if not the top of a 14.3.

Sad thing the LS owners were saying you'd loose too.
 
yeah the first race was pretty pathetic he was atleast 3 or so cars back.. i think i was laughn the whole way.. :D ..yea i had no problems payin 2.86 a gallon on gas when it wasn't my money. ;) ...my last 60 foot really amazed me i was not expecting that at all. Im sure if i had 4.10 or 4.30's (HINT HINT) i would easly get high 1.7 or low 1.8's with traction . 02lse96lsc91se84tc what was the previous best gen 1 time. And yes It is pretty bad that most of the other ls owners thought the mark would win. You would think they would know how capable these cars really are, but maybe these cars just need to be in the right hands. ;)
 
my mod list is 3.58 gears, nitto drag radials, huge weight reduction, sct computer,ported TB, GMS coil packs and stainless steel wires (03 Mustang Gt's), custom 2.5 exhaust into a x pipe and straight back, removed cats,hydraulic pump and fan removal, 3,000 CFm electric fan, eibach springs, custom intake that drops down behind my fog light, and i remove my fog light for a ram air kind of effect ....thats about it..
 
loud00ls said:
yeah the first race was pretty pathetic he was atleast 3 or so cars back.. i think i was laughn the whole way.. :D ..yea i had no problems payin 2.86 a gallon on gas when it wasn't my money. ;) ...my last 60 foot really amazed me i was not expecting that at all. Im sure if i had 4.10 or 4.30's (HINT HINT) i would easly get high 1.7 or low 1.8's with traction . 02lse96lsc91se84tc what was the previous best gen 1 time. And yes It is pretty bad that most of the other ls owners thought the mark would win. You would think they would know how capable these cars really are, but maybe these cars just need to be in the right hands. ;)
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Naturally aspirated I think my 9.305 was best for Gen1, that I know of. I have the LSK Alunimum intake w/KKM, MagnaFlow, and Xcal2. Stock otherwise right to the original plugs and coil packs, no weight reduction other than spare, jack and trunk floor. I'm still on the 3.31 gearing. Your right with the best Gen2 times, although that was done with just intake and tune but still, we start off 28hp down. I don't think 410s are going to drop you that low in the 60'...would be nice, but I hoping consistent 1.9s and 13.9 1/4s.

The 8.8 swap is looking very good so far, most guess work has been eliminated. I decided to buy new for the Traction Lock rather than rebuild a old unit I have. I'm Going with Ford Racing gears, little extra money but best quility(quietest). Collecting parts now and should happen by the end of the month.
 
02LSE96LSC91SE84TC said:
I don't think 410s are going to drop you that low in the 60'...would be nice, but I hoping consistent 1.9s and 13.9 1/4s.
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+1. No way in heck your 60's will cut down that low. I don't even expect to see those 60' times after the turbo when I am pushing probably around 350-375rwhp and with the LSD rear and DR's. I think solid 1.9's for sure for you though.


By they way 02LSE texted me and let me know my math was off a little. I said you were .01 behind my Gen2 best 1/8th time. Actually you ran .01 better than my best 1/8th mile time. However, I remember when 02LSE and I would go to the track he always hung REAL close with me to the 1/8th and then I would pull away from him after that. Your regular throttle cable really helps to make your launches peppier.

You said something about possibly needing nitrous? I have my full nitrous system off my LS for sale now. If you really are serious about getting a full nitrous system for your car then shoot me a PM.
 
well i was thinking those 60 foots on nitrous. But yeah i guess when i think about it is unlikely, even on slicks.. i was also curious if yall would think a stall converter from tci for and 05 mustang would work in our cars. because i actually know a guy that bought one for his car, but he actually totaled his car before installation...??
 
loud00ls said:
well i was thinking those 60 foots on nitrous. But yeah i guess when i think about it is unlikely, even on slicks.. i was also curious if yall would think a stall converter from tci for and 05 mustang would work in our cars. because i actually know a guy that bought one for his car, but he actually totaled his car before installation...??
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Well nitrous is a little different of a story than you running N/A. In that case as long as you have a LSD rear then you will have a good chance of hitting a 1.8 60' time once you are used to the car while on nitrous. You will likely hit a better 60' on the nitrous than I will with the turbo even if I will be pushing about 30-40rwhp more. Those 60' times will be abusive on the drivetrain so if I were you I would launch on the progressive controller so the shot can kind of ease in instead of hitting all at once. It will abuse your car less and also not overpower your tires where you are losing traction. Even progressive with the 100 shot I had to really ease into the shot as I was encountering very large traction issues. Most of that was due to the open rear end and stock tires in my case.
 
Which friday are you going to race? I thought it would of been over on the 7th, " race already" Don't keep me in suspense!!! I'M AN OLD MAN AND CAN'T TAKE THE PRESSURE!!!:eek: LOL! LOL! LOL!
 
MERIJONS97LSC said:
Which friday are you going to race? I thought it would of been over on the 7th, " race already" Don't keep me in suspense!!! I'M AN OLD MAN AND CAN'T TAKE THE PRESSURE!!!:eek: LOL! LOL! LOL!
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NEVER MIND !!!!!! I DIDN'T READ ALL THE REPLIES " I'M BAD" SORRY!!!!

oh yah! nevermind my 1st reply #9, I knew you would win all along!!lol lol lol
 
loud00ls said:
well i was thinking those 60 foots on nitrous. But yeah i guess when i think about it is unlikely, even on slicks.. i was also curious if yall would think a stall converter from tci for and 05 mustang would work in our cars. because i actually know a guy that bought one for his car, but he actually totaled his car before installation...??
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I have been toying with that idea since the new Mustangs are now using the 5speed auto. The flexplate on the 3.9 will likely be different than the 4.6. Cant swap flexplates or at least I really doubt it. My thoughts are while I haven't investigated that while similar it would be a custom unit.

This car weak low RPM power would really benefit from one. Just skip right over those RPMs all together. This would help that 60'. Stall converters are a popular bolt on for the Mark guys, really gets that helps that boat get off the line.

Don't tell your friend.
 
My 95 Mark VIII ran 13.8 at 101 mph with just gears no high stall torque converter, stock headers and dayton all season tires. 2.1 60 foot time although later I did 2.0 60 but the weather was worse so I ran 13.9. If we had the 5 speed tranny from the LS I bet that would cut like 3-4 tenths easily.
 
I didn't think they would match since the flexplates do have differnt part numbers. I've also been considering a custom stall convertor for a while but i am unsure of any trust worthy shops to do so. And i also noticed a weird rattling noise coming from my transmission (probually not good) and yes i am 100% possitive it is from my transmission. So im probually goin to end up pulling the trans to fix what-ever the problem is anyways so i figure now would be a good time for a stall. Anyone one know of any good shops that do custom stalls?
 
Not so much important that the flexplate is different, more if the bolt arrangement connecting the converter to it are the same. Not likely...well who knows maybe?? If there was a stall available I would consider one seriously.
 
Is there anything anyone could sugest to get a lower time, or is a 9.23 about it.
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Try losing a little weight. (not you, the car. Unless you think you need to lose weight, then by all means) :p

Any extra stereo equipment (subs amp), spare tire in the trunk, take it out. Go to the track with as little fuel as possible. Take a gas can with you so you'll have enough to make it to a station afterwards for the trip home.

The only problem whit this that I can see is, most of the weight that can be removed from an LS is in the back. Which means less weight on the drive wheels, so you might have to practice your launch a little more to get the least wheel spin.
 
98LSC32V said:
My 95 Mark VIII ran 13.8 at 101 mph with just gears no high stall torque converter, stock headers and dayton all season tires. 2.1 60 foot time although later I did 2.0 60 but the weather was worse so I ran 13.9. If we had the 5 speed tranny from the LS I bet that would cut like 3-4 tenths easily.
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All you have to do is run the 5R55W tranny from the 4.6 V8 Ford Explorer or the 5R55S trans from the S197 Mustang GT; both are the same as the S & N tranny from the LS's except that they have the proper bellhousing bolt pattern for the 4.6. Run it standalone with a controller from PTCS. The reason I know this will work is because I have done the reverse of the operation and converted from 5R55W trans to bullet proof 4R70W with standalone controller. To my knowledge PTCS is the only place offering a standalone controller for the new Ford 5R series transmissions. You would need the trans+TC, Explorer flexplate, Explorer starter, custom driveshaft (or modified Explorer shaft), and standalone controller. You will have to modify your shift linkage just a little bit but it is minor bracketry and metal work.
 
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