Racing a Mark 8 on Fri

loud00ls said:
and ILLS this is one of those moments i would love to have some 4.10's :D . so please keep us posted on the progress
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Yep, 4.10's would do your car allot of justice. There is a certain someone on this site that will be going to an 8.8" 4.10 LSD here soon once he gets off his rear and drags his butt down to my place. ;)
 
NYC LSC said:
4.10s would be sweet. I had them in my '87 and miss that get up and go!!
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And with these 3.9's being such a total dog off the line it would be a godsend for actually getting a decent 60' time and thus continuing on to a good 1/4 mile ET. I am looking forward to the results that the 4.10's will give in the LS.
 
loud00ls said:
i have run 9.3's maybe 4 times the rest where somewhere in the 9.4's, and there where a couple higher (bad driving). my 9.37 was my best time to date. but i've only takn the ls down the track maybe 13 times total.
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If in 13 passes your majority of runs are 9.3s and 9.4s your pretty consistent for the limited number of passes. If you can do that in the race your going to have a very good race.

Let the best driver win.
 
ILLS said:
Yep, 4.10's would do your car allot of justice. There is a certain someone on this site that will be going to an 8.8" 4.10 LSD here soon once he gets off his rear and drags his butt down to my place. ;)
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I'm working on it.:)
 
I'm guessing your talking about a heads up race ?
Not a bracket were you dial in ?
loud00ls what are your reaction times ?
Take a few runs before you race and find the tree by making yourself red light.
Look at your time slips and how far off the tree you are.
Always stage the car in the same spot I would go as deep as I could without turning off the pre stage bulb.
You should be launching during the end of the last amber light that light stays on for a half of a sec.
If you wait untill you see green your reaction time will be slow.
You are trying to get the best light to do this you need to know how long it takes your car to leave.
There are two things one is how you react to the tree and how long it takes the car to go after you mash the gas.
If the mark has never raced and you have and can cut a light you will kick his a$$ easy.
Maybe put him off for a few weeks untill you find the tree.
 
You bring up a good point. I assume they are racing for quickest timeslip, so RT may not be a issue.

But is most fun to have the quickest timeslip and leave him in the dust even more so due to his poor reaction.
 
ILLS said:
You guys didn't address the biggest factor in determining who will likely win this race....Driver experience..
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I put my money here... experience will play the most imortant part.

My money is on Jason:shifty: ... been to the track too much. Oh but then he's not racing :D
 
So a Mark VIII owner suckers an LS owner into donating $50. Good for him.:p

And if you don't mind... We do prefer to refer to our cars as Mark VIII's.:D
 
You hit the nail on the head here............

ILLS said:
It sounds like this guy will not know how to drive his car at the strip. Observing other people racing at the strip and actually doing it are two totally different things. I still think you will likely take him due to your mods making the cars themselves pretty even; and more importantly your seat time. Just make sure you run him on his first one or two run at the track that night.


Do not be worried about allot of these other people posting here saying the Mark will win as they likely do not have much drag racing experience. It is not a guarantee you will win but based upon how you describe the guy I see a pretty high likelihood of it. I have many years experience with this stuff and know that the driver counts for one heck of allot in a race. I have seen MUCH faster cars get beat by a better driver in a slower car. The driver mod is HUGE when at the strip. That is what I believe will secure you your win.


BTW running racegas on your car would be worthless. Stick to 93 pump...

I more or less restated allot of what Jason said but truth is truth...
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The driver Mod is the factor that has allowed me to beat cars that are much faster in the quarter than mine. And I have no fear of "blowing my motor" or of going "way too fast" as some of my victims have stated. But I can honestly say that I have yet to be beat by an LS. And I have run 7 or 8 of them. From a dead stop, and from a float. Eight mile, quarter mile, and for miles down the freeway. And my 96 is not modified with the exception of the air box and silencer removal.
 
02LSE96LSC91SE84TC said:
You bring up a good point. I assume they are racing for quickest timeslip, so RT may not be a issue.

But is most fun to have the quickest timeslip and leave him in the dust even more so due to his poor reaction.
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Oh,pfffft!!! That would be craaaaap if they were racing for the quickest ET. That is like the dyno queens comparing dyno sheets. It's just not real racing unless you include the RT as well.

It should be whomever gets the win light, not the lowest ET. Even then I still think that the LS owner has a really good chance. He has an even better one with RT taken into account.
 
bufordtpisser said:
The driver Mod is the factor that has allowed me to beat cars that are much faster in the quarter than mine. And I have no fear of "blowing my motor" or of going "way too fast" as some of my victims have stated. But I can honestly say that I have yet to be beat by an LS. And I have run 7 or 8 of them. From a dead stop, and from a float. Eight mile, quarter mile, and for miles down the freeway. And my 96 is not modified with the exception of the air box and silencer removal.
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Not making any excuses here, but allot of LS owners cannot driver their cars worth a crap. That is why if you look at most Gen 1 stock times you see people turning mid-high 15's. Heck, even Gen 2 stock average ET's are low 15's. Those people are not driving their LS anywhere near to the potential that the car has. When I first took the LS to the strip I ran a 14.7 average ET with CAI and Tune in 45 degree weather 30% hum, 29.0 baro. The next fall with the same tunes and same weather conditions, same cool down period, but with more racing experience with the LS I ran a 14.2 best with tons of 14.3's; off the nitrous of course. Nitrous is much faster. That improvement was due to me finally getting used to how the car liked to be launched and shifted. Once I had enough seat time I could drive the car to its potential. These cars are very picky.

A properly driven stock Gen 1 LS V8 should run a very low 15 second ET...

A properly driven stock Gen 2 LS V8 will hit a 14.7 ET no problem.
 
well i just got back from the track and i am very surprised on how things turned out. i got there around 5:30 and he was already there practicing. so i parked my car and let it cool down for about 30 mins while i got signed up and got my number. about 6:30 we finally got in the staging lanes. i did a quick burnout just to heat the radials up a bit, and pulled up to the tree. we ended up running....
MINE HIS
R/t .314 .761
60' 2.27 2.46
330 5.98 6.59
1/8 9.43 9.86

this was our first race the one we was suppose to be racing for $50 but he said he was spinning to bad and would like go again. so i said let me cool down a bit and we will go again. about 45 mins latter we try again. this time i really heated the tires up


MINE HIS
R/t .561 .652
60' 2.13 2.19
330 5.88 6.11
1/8 9.28 9.45


after we finished that last race we parked and he gave me my 50 dollars and he said "that was a good race, and we should try it again when i get a few more things done" so this is likely to be an ongoing battle... :D

but by the end of the night after a few runs we manged to both get better times he got a 9.42 but im unsure about the rest of the stats because he kept that slip

and i managed a

R/t .347
60' 2.09
330 5.85
1/8th 9.23

that is now my best time to this date.
 
loud00ls said:
after we finished that last race we parked and he gave me my 50 dollars and he said "that was a good race, and we should try it again when i get a few more things done" so this is likely to be an ongoing battle... :D
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Please provide us his name so I can ban him from the site.;)

How embarrassing.:(
 
MonsterMark said:
How embarrassing.:(
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What exactly is embarrassing? Marks are slow turds from the factory too so there isn't much ego to really have there. :confused: A Corvette getting beat by an LS, yes embarrassing (I have experienced that BTW...I was in the LS.); but not a barge like the Mark VIII. :F
 
eastcoast27959 said:
i would love to see that.
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I wish I had the video cam at the time. Oh well, it always seems your best 1/4 runs and more enjoyable encounters are never the ones caught on tape. It was a Red C5 Corvette with the manual trans. All it had for mods was an exhaust from what the owner told me later. The fella got the jump on me but I was able to reel him in and pass him.
 
By the way, congrats loud00ls I figured you had the win pretty easily. Like I said, your cars are pretty equal within themselves but you had seat time at the track and he didn't which was the deciding factor. If you all look back you will notice I pretty much predicted exactly how this race would go from the blowing off the tires by the inexperienced Mark owner to various other things. I love cocky Mark VIII owners. Enjoy your $50. ;)


I also just took a look at my old N/A timeslips and you would have just been .01 seconds behind me in the 1/8th and to my knowledge my LS is the fastest N/A LS. Mine is a Gen2 by the way so good going on the Gen 1 times. You are easily hitting a 14.3 now if you were to run the 1/4 mile. What MPH was your 9.23 run?
 
im sorry for not posting the mph i was kind of out of it last night when i got home. for the first and second run it was 75 and 78 the 9.23 was 79. As for the money i spent most of it last night getting gas just so i could make it home. :( so that was very helpful. ... im now kinda wanting 9.19 so im probably going to go next weekend, and see if i cant get a better slip. Is there anything anyone could sugest to get a lower time, or is a 9.23 about it. i know its not im my 60 foot so im basically thinking the only way is going to be to make more power or loose more weight. But im unsure about how to do ethier of those. im pretty sure i got every mod but nitrous so ....any suggestions.
 
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