Obama effigy found on U. of Kentucky campus

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Obama effigy found on U. of Kentucky campus
Oct 29 04:36 PM US/Eastern
By JEFFREY McMURRAY
Associated Press Writer

LEXINGTON, Ky. (AP) - University of Kentucky authorities were investigating Wednesday who hanged an effigy of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama from a tree on campus.

College spokesman Carl Nathe said the effigy was found Wednesday morning. Police immediately took it down. A faculty member said he saw the effigy with a noose around its neck, hanging from a high tree branch.

University President Lee Todd said he planned to apologize to the Obama family on behalf of the school and that he is "personally offended and deeply embarrassed by this disgusting episode."

Federal authorities have been notified, Todd said. He said the effigy violates the university's code of ethics and won't be tolerated.

"I am outraged because we work very hard, every day, to build bridges across the divides," Todd said. "Diversity and inclusion are among our most precious core values. Episodes like this serve only to erode our confidence in and respect for one another."

Mike Lynch, a faculty member who works in a building near where the effigy was found, said he saw it around 8:40 a.m. He described it as life-sized with a Barack Obama Halloween mask, a suit jacket and sweat pants.

"This, as far as I'm concerned, says nothing—absolutely nothing—representative of this university or this community," he said.

Obama's Kentucky campaign director, Kenya McGruder, had no immediate comment.

Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan declined to comment specifically on the situation, but said an effigy can suggest a threatening tone or be an attempt to intimidate. He said the agency is "very proactive about addressing these matters."

It's the second time an effigy has been found on a college campus recently. George Fox University in Oregon, a small Christian college, punished four students who confessed to hanging a likeness of Obama from a tree.

That effigy was found in September with a message taped to it—"Act Six reject." The message was targeted at participants of a scholarship program geared toward increasing the number of minority and low-income students and several Christian colleges, mostly in the Northwest.

In West Hollywood, Calif., authorities on Wednesday were looking into a Halloween display depicting a mannequin of GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin hanging from a noose. The display also displayed her running mate, John McCain, surrounded by fake flames.

At the University of Kentucky, Martin Luther King Jr. Cultural Center interim director Chester Grundy said he was outraged by the incident. A rally was being planned for 7 p.m. EDT Wednesday, where staff and student leaders are expected to speak in response, he said.

Gov. Steve Beshear called the incident "embarrassing" and "deeply offensive."

"This was not political speech. It was simply hate," he said.

Raoul Cunningham, president of the Louisville chapter of the NAACP, said he is still trying to sort out his feelings "because there may be a double-meaning because Barack Obama is black, that he would be hung from a tree—that goes back to lynching."

John Johnson, executive director of the Kentucky Commission on Human Rights, called the action unacceptable even if it was a prank.

"It's astonishing that somebody would do that at this day and time," he said. "You would hope that our country has progressed further than that."

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Associated Press writers Joe Biesk and Roger Alford in Frankfort and Malcolm C. Knox in Louisville contributed to this report.

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
 
It's pretty likely that who ever hung the effigy doesn't support Obama in his pursuit for the Presidency.

But is it right to associate such a thing with McCain? That's a natural response, but is it fair? The use of a lynch on a Southern campus indicates that this is meant to intimidate and express dislike of blacks. Does it have anything to do with policy ideas like tax cuts, school choice, or our foreign policy?

Other than simply not voting for Obama, is there any reason to think that he's supporting McCain (unless he's possibly just voting (if he even votes) for someone other than Obama?)

I'm trying to identify a distinction I see here. When you hang Sarah Palin in a noose, you do so because you hate her purely for her ideas.
When you see some racist hang an Obama, they are doing so because of their hate of a race of people.

However, one is hateful and distasteful.
The other is hateful and hurtful.
Clearly, exploiting century old images to intimidate and cause people pain, as this racist is doing, is worse.
And, this is clearly a more important issue than the one I'm addressing here.
 
It's pretty likely that who ever hung the effigy doesn't support Obama in his pursuit for the Presidency.

But is it right to associate such a thing with McCain? That's a natural response, but is it fair?
Of course it is, because McCain's a racist. :rolleyes:
 
No, it isn't fair to assume that this hate crime was perpetrated by a McCain supporter - and certainly it would never be condoned by McCain (the man isn't a racist) or his staff.

It could have been. Probably if that person who did this is going to vote, they aren't voting for Obama.

If it were 'merely' a hate crime - why specifically go after Obama?
 
and yet no outcries, no rallies, and no appologies to Sarah Palin about the effigy that was found hanging from a tree, can you say double standard
 
and yet no outcries, no rallies, and no appologies to Sarah Palin about the effigy that was found hanging from a tree, can you say double standard


The hanging of a black person (especially in the South), has a very negative history, for one.

Do you think the person(s) who hung the Obama effigy did it simply because they dislike his political views, or do you think the color of his skin had something to do with it and that was the message or part there of?
 
It's pretty likely that who ever hung the effigy doesn't support Obama in his pursuit for the Presidency.

But is it right to associate such a thing with McCain? That's a natural response, but is it fair? The use of a lynch on a Southern campus indicates that this is meant to intimidate and express dislike of blacks. Does it have anything to do with policy ideas like tax cuts, school choice, or our foreign policy?

Other than simply not voting for Obama, is there any reason to think that he's supporting McCain (unless he's possibly just voting (if he even votes) for someone other than Obama?)

I'm trying to identify a distinction I see here. When you hang Sarah Palin in a noose, you do so because you hate her purely for her ideas.
When you see some racist hang an Obama, they are doing so because of their hate of a race of people.

However, one is hateful and distasteful.
The other is hateful and hurtful.
Clearly, exploiting century old images to intimidate and cause people pain, as this racist is doing, is worse.
And, this is clearly a more important issue than the one I'm addressing here.

McCain (Obama too) can't control what some asshat who may support his presidency does.
 
and yet no outcries, no rallies, and no appologies to Sarah Palin about the effigy that was found hanging from a tree, can you say double standard

As foxpaws pointed out, the SP effigy story has attracted alot of outrage from the media, including (can you believe it) MSNBC. FNC has been beating / exploiting the SP effigy story to death, probably attracting more attention to it and making the perpitrator a "celebrity".

Funny, they didn't say anything about pumpkins, spiders, bats or a Joe Bidin maniquin popping out of a flaming chimney near the hanging Obama effigy. I guess they weren't done decorating for Halloween. :rolleyes:
 
Expressing one's views, that is all it was.
Someone doesn't care for Obama, and in the case here in West Hollywood, someone doesn't care for Sarah or McCain.
Big deal, it will be over in a week so, who really gives a sh!t what people think?
Bob.
 
Expressing one's views, that is all it was.

Yyyyyyuuuup. Sure. Doesn't bother me one bit, keep on wearing your racism on your sleeve for everyone to see. It'll just make it easier for the rest of us "real Americans" to set our "targets" when your "civil war" begins.


:rolleyes:
 
Yyyyyyuuuup. Sure. Doesn't bother me one bit, keep on wearing your racism on your sleeve for everyone to see. It'll just make it easier for the rest of us "real Americans" to set our "targets" when your "civil war" begins.


:rolleyes:

I notice you have not said one word about Ms. Palin being strung up.
Now WHO is the racist?
I guess it's only wrong when it happens to a black huh?
Gert real .
Bob.
 
Originally Posted by JohnnyBz00LS
Yyyyyyuuuup. Sure. Doesn't bother me one bit, keep on wearing your racism on your sleeve for everyone to see. It'll just make it easier for the rest of us "real Americans" to set our "targets" when your "civil war" begins.
Is that a threat???

Good luck with that. Just make sure you've got something more potent than a street grade zip gun when you decide to "bring it."
 
Civil War

When I hear threats of violence over this stuff I think "wow we haven't changed at all since the civil war"...

this is just sad:(

Both Of You!
 
When I hear threats of violence over this stuff I think "wow we haven't changed at all since the civil war"...

this is just sad:(

Both Of You!

Hardly the same thing...
Back then both sides were aloud to arm themselves.
In this case, liberals have voluntarily disarmed before the confrontation.

It can be equated to the wisdom of their foreign policy as well.
 
And why is it accepted to just call racist behavior "Republican" when the history of the party has no such association. In case you're history is weak, it's a Republican who was the commander in chief during the Civil War. It was Republicans who fought for Civil Rights.

And it was a Democrat who said, "I'll have those N*#G@@ voting Democrat for the next 50 years" before he instituted the Great Society.

And it's also the Democrat party who has an old grand wizard of the KKK acting as their elder statesman.
 
I notice you have not said one word about Ms. Palin being strung up.
Now WHO is the racist?
I guess it's only wrong when it happens to a black huh?
Gert real .
Bob.

I denounced that act when it first came out:

http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showpost.php?p=441098&postcount=5

NEVER did I advocate stringing up a Palin effigy, only pointed out the hypocracy on the right when they complained about the Palin effigy and said nothing to denounce the many Obama effigies strung up, or fake attacks from black Obama supporters.

fossten said:
Johnny's not a racist. He only hates Christians. He's merely a bigot.

I do not hate true Christians, I just don't tolerate intolerant "self-proclaimed FAKE Christians" who beat the Bible but don't walk in the footsteps of Jesus by spewing hate to others.

Calabrio said:
And why is it accepted to just call racist behavior "Republican" when the history of the party has no such association.

Nobody is calling racist behavior "republican". While historically the GOP may not have been a party to racism, the history of the GOP is evolving. It just so happens that most of the people these days who wear their racism on their sleeves associate themselves w/ the GOP.
 
Hardly the same thing...
Back then both sides were aloud to arm themselves.
In this case, liberals have voluntarily disarmed before the confrontation.

It can be equated to the wisdom of their foreign policy as well.

Not all liberals Calabrio... heck some of us even have CWPs...;) Scary huh? Liberals packin'... :p
 
Big deal, A little humor never hurt anyone. It would have got ignored if it was a "white" in that tree. It is the truth!!!
 
Big deal, A little humor never hurt anyone. It would have got ignored if it was a "white" in that tree. It is the truth!!!

And you would be WRONG:

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/29/california-homeowners-agree-palin-effigy/

California Homeowners Agree to Take Palin Effigy Down

Lots a media attention over the last several days on this ONE episode of a "white" hanging effigy, compared to scattered attention to at least 3 (and countless other unreported) episodes of an Obama effigy hanging from the tree.
 
Of course Fox News will broadcast the Palin effigy day and night but every other channel and paper will broadcast the Obama effigy.
 

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