CpeVillStr90 said:
Base price of the GTO is $31,990,Mustang,26,320.About 5 grand.When your getting into the upper $20,000 range,5 grand is not that much when your spending that kind of money to begin with.
With a simple reprogram the GT is as fast or faster than the GTO for less money. I have not seen an LS2 GTO run faster than 105-106 at the track. And 5-6 grand is a big difference to a lot of car buyers.
Proof of this?I seriously doubt that theres more aftermarket parts for a Mustang than anyother car.
There are about 8 different magazines devoted to the Mustang. Please show me another car that has this many. All you have to do is pick up a copy of MM&FF and check out the vendors and the parts available, or your Summit catalog. It is common knowlege that the Mustang aftermarket is second to none.
The aftermarket part range for the LS engine series is so vast.Especially since the engines have been around for so long and a lot of them share parts.And plus what your goin to spend to get the Mustang into GTO HP range,your better off spending the extra 5 grand.
Again, you don't need to match HP levels with the GTO to beat it, a simple change to a 91 octane tune and getting rid of torque management does it. Superchargers are only being used at 4 psi by Saleen to get that magical 400 hp level.
The engine that is in the Mustang has been around for a long time.Not much has changed with the 4.6 in the past 10 years.Thats why you have so many aftermarket parts before the new Mustang.
Actually a lot has changed, from the lo-po 215 hp mom and pop SOHC from 91-97 (Mustang 96-97), to PI heads and intake changes to the new 3 valve design. Then with the 4 valve cars there has been several changes in head design, blocks, cams etc over the years. The PI head desing has been pushed well into the low 8's in a full race car, the 4.6 well into the 6's. The aftermarket really does not need to come out with different head designs for them, and it would be expensive.
But if Im going to buy a muscle car,the last thing Im concerned is styling.Rather its the performance of the muscle car.The GTO may be bland but it still looks good and muscular.As far as the engine options go,I wouldn't be caught in a "V6 muscle car".There shouldn't be such a thing.Three V8's is nice though.And Im not going to base what car I buy on what the guy down the street owns.Sales doesn't effect my decision.
Lack of styling and day to day livability is what led to the demise of the 4th gens. The V-6's carry sales allowing the rest of us to have the V-8's.
Other than price how aren't they in the same market segment?
The Shelby has a backseat for one and a solid rear axle and is a Pony car. The bracket for the ZO6 includes the Viper and the GT. They are not even close to being in the same market segment. Dave Hill was aiming at these cars with the Z06, not the Shelby.
The GT is just about exactly the same as the old one.If you can't tell a C6 from a C5 then you need glasses.They don't look alike.
Like I said, the
AVERAGE public. It would be like asking the general public to tell the the differences between an L-88 and a Tri power 427 (I've been a Corvette fan for about 25 years). I might know them immediatly, but the average public would not. The GT looks like nothing else on the road, and it gets noticed.
The Z06 can't compete?Are you kidding?Like I said,all the engines of the LS series are so similar.Theres tons of mods.Not to mention,the Z06 is still half the price.you can spend 5 grand on mods for a Z06,beable to eat the GT and still be nearly half the price of the GT.The Z06 is nearly as quick as the GT for half the price.
I never said it
couldn't compete. This whole one upmanship thing can be done over and over again. I can take a Pinto, throw in a big block and a blower and rape a Z06. Point? Gains from mods obviously goes to the supercharged engine.