If your not a vegetarian then you have no room to talk. First, honestly, do you really buy the shooting story? Maybe if they were in some mountain house far away from anyone else, but otherwise i highly doubt they opened fire on a cat. If it makes you feel better my motive isnt to feel tough or powerful, its to get rid of a nuisance before it turns into a dozen cats on my car. I didnt go buy antifreeze after the paw prints, i didnt buy antifreeze after the first furball on my car....but right now enough is enough. Its a nasty stray cat that could have who knows what disease. I have already tried to deal with animal control about a huge dog that was roaming around about a year ago and they did NOTHING. The dog i would have shot with my 9mm, it was a pitbull and i have a 4 yr old. It had no tags and animal control did nothing. I had a deputy come talk to me, thats it. So they are out of the question. I'm sorry but nothing you can say could possibly change my mind.
Freakin stray cats !!!
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decibels5 said:
People like me, who don't condone the torture and poisoning of animals, are the reason there are strays? That's an idiotic statement.
Nor did I ever say I feed stray animals.
However, torturing animals- be it through recklessly leaving poison out in front of your home, beating them, or using them from careless target practice, is inexcusable- and it points to a short coming of the person doing it. Not the person offended by it.
One has nothing to do with each other. Animals for food is life, but animals for torture or thrill killing are entirely different situations.Fla02LS said:
It doesn't matter. I'm first referring to the sentiment and spirit of the thread.
Oh- now you're worried about this cat having kittens? That's foolish.
First of all, you're assuming there is a mating couple. Second, you're implying that the kittens, if born, would actually survive. Stray cats and stray dogs that give birth in the wild usually have NO surviving offspring. These are domesticated animals ill-suited for wild life.
Still doesn't mean you should poison them and make them endure internal organ failure.
....oh- that's the last straw..... He pushed you too far. Doesn't he know who he's dealing with!!?? The friggin' cat needs to be taught a lesson.
Oh- now it's a health service you intend to perform. Let's not mention the 10 plus pound dead, festering, bodily fluid leaking, corpse that is going to find some secluded place to die and rot.
First you were doing the community a favor. Then you were saving the cat from being put down by animal control. And then you were doing it to control the population. And now you're doing it because "it might be diseased." Yeah- that's likely. Cats are notorious for spreading "disease." Give it a rest, at least be honest to yourself.
O.K. clearly, the solution is to poison it- or beat it to death with a whiffle ball bat... clearly
So what happened to the "pitbull"? Did you cleverly leaving a puddle of poison out for it to? And what does your fear of a dog have to do with a little cat smudging your friggin' car?
Set a trap, take it to the shelter. And in doing so, teach your child to respect life, and help prevent him from being some amoral sociopath.
Here's the reality. We are not the only things in the world. When animals act like animals, I do not get mad at them. The cat isn't maliciously smudging your car. He's looking for a warm safe spot to sleep. He's surviving.
If your neighbor came over and keyed your car, I'd support the idea of shooting him with a bb gun. That's malicious. That's done to spite you. They know better.
The cat is living. Some irresponsible person abandoned it and it survives. It finds warm dry spots to sleep in the winter. It eats what it can find. In essence, you want to torture this animal, for both being an animal, and for the action of one of your sh!thead neighbors. That's wrong.
If the cat posed some threat to your family- then, again, I'd support the decision to destroy the animal. But, that's not the case here.
It is the height of selfishness, it's is unethical, and it's a terrible example to set.
And, the reports of real and hypothetical animal abuse in this thread are pathetic. And those that fantasize about that are degenerate arseholes.
And if nothing else, if this poor cat is poisoned, I hope it climbs into you car, then :q:q:q:qs, pisses, and bleeds all over your interior as he dies. When the best case scenario is the animal lapses into a coma after a couple days before total organ failure... you know it's an uncomfortable death.
northstar11
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Calabrio said:
I know people like you. You realy care for the cute little kitties, but for some reason you dont mind human abortion so much.
You must realize I live in northern wisconsin. We shoot deer out of the bedroom window. I dont believe in torture, but shooting a cat with a crisp shotgun to the head does not make it suffer. I'm shure you will be able to find a couple of more cats somewhere.
scjmc
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I would say that this thread is drifting slightly...
owlman
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Wax it up reeeeeaaaaal good, record hilarious moments of slipping cats on camera, send to America's Funniest Videos, and use prize money to buy some coyotes. easy! 
pbslmo
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Wow, What a Tread. At points, I was ROFLMAO because I was visioning the funny senarios. I'm not a cat lover, but they are a pain when they're strays. Trap it and bring it to the Humane Society. If it is a neighbors cat, then you should talk to them (unless your nearest neighbor is 1 mile away, "shooting a deer out your bedroom window"). Priceless. LOL
DLSK8... Now that's comedy! You had me rolling. Funny STORY...
Now this thread is getting too serious. Calabrio, let it go. Do you think your opinion (or anyones) really matters? He's going to kill a stray cat. I doubt he'll bury it and mow over it's head... But that is just funny. And laughing at these STORIES, doesn't mean people are compensating for anything. I laughed because it was funny, not because I would do something like that myself. This is a silly thread from someone venting. That's all.
How about you just agree to disagree. He wants to kill a stray (for his own reasons) and you think he shouldn't (for your own reasons).
Now this thread is getting too serious. Calabrio, let it go. Do you think your opinion (or anyones) really matters? He's going to kill a stray cat. I doubt he'll bury it and mow over it's head... But that is just funny. And laughing at these STORIES, doesn't mean people are compensating for anything. I laughed because it was funny, not because I would do something like that myself. This is a silly thread from someone venting. That's all.
How about you just agree to disagree. He wants to kill a stray (for his own reasons) and you think he shouldn't (for your own reasons).
Thank you...just venting. Some...no, one person has takin this waaaay to far. I guess i could say it 100 million more times and it wont sink in. I am not looking for torture and am not looking for a thrill kill. I am looking to get rid a nuisance and a problem. Period. There are three and only three options. 1)Get animal control who i have already said doesnt care if they did catch the cat it would most defintely be destroyed. 2)Take action myself to get rid of it 3)Ignore the problem. I'm not spending money on a cover to keep ONE cat away. I'm not gonna ignore it. Yes cats can carry diseases that can be contracted from just a scratch. But now you have me interested in you Calabria. Whats your deal? Are you in PETA? Greenpeace? Cat Owner?jgfish97 said:
You know what they say about people like that (PETA, etc)? Those people are usually the ones making the videos of animal torture so others can see how bad it can really get if they don't join the coalition. Fla02LS, I would do the same thing if I were in your shoes.Fla02LS said:
2001LS8Sport
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Fla02LS said:
If you're worried about legalities, then shoot the cat...because believe me...you get caught poisoning the cat with antifreeze, you're going to jail in a big time hurry. And you should. That is a horrible way for an animal to die. Believe me...the courts really frown on torturing helpless animals.
Cats may be worthless to you...but they are precious to some folks...and you don't have the right to make the distinction. The owners here are at fault for not taking care of their pets. Take your complaint up with them. (and you do have a very legitimate complaint...cat tracks on my car would seriously piss me off.) The cat is only doing what it does naturally. It means no malice. The owners however, know damn good and well they're at fault every time the cat goes outside unleashed.
Man, i thought i explained the situation already a couple of times. The cat has NO OWNER. There is no human for me to go discuss anything with. Thats not an option. Its grungy and all matted up, its not being cared for as it is. If you go anywhere near the cat it takes off, thats not normal behavior for a domesticated cat. Yes, i agree the cat is only doing whats natural, but so are rats when they go ratting around. Do people respect rats way of living? No they break their necks with rat traps. I am not thrilled with the thought of killing the cat. I consider myself a man of faith and it goes against all that, but it needs to go. If animal control ever did get off its ass and come get it i am positive it would be destroyed anyway. It isnt something that has occured only a couple times. Its been over a year of dealing with this ONE stray cat and i dont want to wait for a whole litter of stray cats. But who knows, i could put antifreeze out and it could never come back again which would be fine with me. I understand most opinions because your outside this situation. If this was occuring in your own front yard i am sure you'd have a different outlook.
Oh, by the way, i have NOT had the time to actually buy antifreeze yet, so i havent taken any action as of yet.
Oh, by the way, i have NOT had the time to actually buy antifreeze yet, so i havent taken any action as of yet.
Talk to animal control again. I don't know about where you live, but around here, they will provide a live-catch trap even when they won't trap the animal themselves. Once the animal is in the trap, they will come collect it.
And if they do euthanize it, they kill it humanely and quickly, they don't allow it to slowly die of poisoning over the course of a few days as its internal organs shut down. Even a rat trap is a humane method of killing insofar as it is almost instantaneous. Hell, put it in a tow sack and throw it in the pond--at least that's more humane than antifreeze poisoning.
And if they do euthanize it, they kill it humanely and quickly, they don't allow it to slowly die of poisoning over the course of a few days as its internal organs shut down. Even a rat trap is a humane method of killing insofar as it is almost instantaneous. Hell, put it in a tow sack and throw it in the pond--at least that's more humane than antifreeze poisoning.
pbslmo
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How about feeding the cat and become its owner then train it not to lay on your car. OR park your car in the garage. Thanks for the laughs.
If you're interested in non-lethal options, there are cat repellents available. Petsmart had a whole raft of them the last time I looked. I don't know if you'd want to be spraying a repellent on the car's paint, but if you spray it on the ground around it, it should be effective.
Ground cayenne pepper is also an excellent natural animal repellent, and is completely harmless to animals and should not harm the paint. I would wax the car first, then sprinkle the cayenne where the cat is sleeping/walking (eg, hood, roof), and it won't be long before the cat will be avoiding your car. I would suggest washing it off daily and reapplying at night--it wouldn't do to put your hands where the pepper is then scratch your nose or rub your eyes...
Also, the cat's claws shouldn't be hard enough to scratch all the way through the clearcoat, so some finish repair (like Meguiar's ScratchX) or a polymer wax should take care of that.
Ground cayenne pepper is also an excellent natural animal repellent, and is completely harmless to animals and should not harm the paint. I would wax the car first, then sprinkle the cayenne where the cat is sleeping/walking (eg, hood, roof), and it won't be long before the cat will be avoiding your car. I would suggest washing it off daily and reapplying at night--it wouldn't do to put your hands where the pepper is then scratch your nose or rub your eyes...
Also, the cat's claws shouldn't be hard enough to scratch all the way through the clearcoat, so some finish repair (like Meguiar's ScratchX) or a polymer wax should take care of that.
Stray cats are like any other wild animal........regardless of their domesticate status. Wild animals need to be controlled because they spread disease and pose a health risk to the community.....ever heard of rabies or feline distemper? I'm not even taking into consideration that the cat will ulitimately breed and produce offspring which will only further catalyze the situation. The cat is going to die and the world will ulitimately be a cleaner and better place as a result.SoonerLS said:If you're interested in non-lethal options, there are cat repellents available. Petsmart had a whole raft of them the last time I looked. I don't know if you'd want to be spraying a repellent on the car's paint, but if you spray it on the ground around it, it should be effective.
Ground cayenne pepper is also an excellent natural animal repellent, and is completely harmless to animals and should not harm the paint. I would wax the car first, then sprinkle the cayenne where the cat is sleeping/walking (eg, hood, roof), and it won't be long before the cat will be avoiding your car. I would suggest washing it off daily and reapplying at night--it wouldn't do to put your hands where the pepper is then scratch your nose or rub your eyes...
Also, the cat's claws shouldn't be hard enough to scratch all the way through the clearcoat, so some finish repair (like Meguiar's ScratchX) or a polymer wax should take care of that.
SoonerLS said:If you're interested in non-lethal options, there are cat repellents available. Petsmart had a whole raft of them the last time I looked. I don't know if you'd want to be spraying a repellent on the car's paint, but if you spray it on the ground around it, it should be effective.
Ground cayenne pepper is also an excellent natural animal repellent, and is completely harmless to animals and should not harm the paint. I would wax the car first, then sprinkle the cayenne where the cat is sleeping/walking (eg, hood, roof), and it won't be long before the cat will be avoiding your car. I would suggest washing it off daily and reapplying at night--it wouldn't do to put your hands where the pepper is then scratch your nose or rub your eyes...
Also, the cat's claws shouldn't be hard enough to scratch all the way through the clearcoat, so some finish repair (like Meguiar's ScratchX) or a polymer wax should take care of that.
I dont want people to think i went straight to the mentality of "lets kill the cat". Most all of your suggestions i have inquired about. The treatments like you mentioned dont have a good track record. I have heard of spraying pepper spray/mace around the area so it gets it on its paws and later licks it. Using predator urine. I dont feel like getting into a habit of buying crap that doesnt work and worrying about reapplying everyday. Its rains a fairly good amount and we have dew almost every morning so any treatment will just wash away. And honestly, i dont really want to move my problem on to another person which a treatment would do. If i told you i had an oppossum or armadillo and wanted to kill it i dont think i'd be getting the same "Dont do it" speeches. Please get out of your mind a nice cute fluffly house cat. Thats not what i am dealing with here.
Oh, give me a freaking break, DLS8K. All I did was suggest that a) he should not use an inhumane method for killing a cat and b) that there are non-lethal ways of preventing the cat from getting on his car.
I am not at all associated with PETA; in fact, I'm pretty much the antithesis of that (personally, I think they're complete whackjobs). I don't hunt anything other than the vermin and varmints that come near my home, and I have shot, trapped, and stepped on more rats, mice, and possums than you can shake a stick at, but like all decent hunters, I believe in the quick kill. It should always be quick, and always humane. Antifreeze poisoning is neither of those; it's bad enough when it happens by accident, but when it's done intentionally, it's absolutely inexcusable and reprehensible.
I am not at all associated with PETA; in fact, I'm pretty much the antithesis of that (personally, I think they're complete whackjobs). I don't hunt anything other than the vermin and varmints that come near my home, and I have shot, trapped, and stepped on more rats, mice, and possums than you can shake a stick at, but like all decent hunters, I believe in the quick kill. It should always be quick, and always humane. Antifreeze poisoning is neither of those; it's bad enough when it happens by accident, but when it's done intentionally, it's absolutely inexcusable and reprehensible.
northstar11
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Hello people! SHOTGUN! Totaly human, quik and painless. I realize cats are pets to some people, wich is wy they have my permission to go to the pet store and get the latest model available. However, stray kitties can do only harm. I hope you guys are not serous about calling animal shelter or whatever for a stray cat. You call them dudes out for mice running around that dont have name colours on them? Dont torture. Thats just cruel and stupid. But painless death is best for every one, including the cat, who gets no care enyway. Oh jeez, why do i waist my time....:shifty:
From what I've heard coyote urine does work. I know coyotes work really well (we have very few strays around here, and the cats that go missing are rarely found).Fla02LS said:
Sometimes you've gotta do what you've gotta do; all I'm saying is do it humanely.
northstar11
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Oh yea, just saw a bumber sticker today, and I cant resist
PETA: People Eating Taisty Animals
PETA: People Eating Taisty Animals
I really dont get all this talk about .22's and shotguns and shooting. I dont know what kind of places ya'll live in but there are laws against the public discharge of a firearm. Dont think a blast from a shotgun wont have the police at your door in a hurry with guns pointed at your head. Shotguns are ok for hunting birds and such cause if you miss your gonna hit what...a cloud? You shoot at a cat and your hitting ALOT more than the cat. Its kinda funny but complete nonsense to even suggest that. Hell i would be afraid of shooting my pellet gun without a neighbor calling the cops. I've heard of all kinds of horror stories regarding cats...drowning them in a trash can full of water. Again i'm not looking to enjoy this and not looking for get a thrill from its pain....i want it GONE. If gone means dead then so be it. I look at it this way. What if i go the coyote piss route and it works and the cat stays away down the street and ends up scratching some unsuspecting young kid and gives it some wackass disease. I'd feel responsible. I live in a highly populated neighborhood with $400K houses. Its a nuisance that doesnt belong.
2001LS8Sport
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I'm telling you...get a paintball gun!! They are not legally classified a firearm. A few blasts with that, and the cat won't be back. And it won't kill him or torture him. It will just hurt for a while. My son has had a couple cats that would visit his yard every night. Not any more. Once he turned them pink, they never bothered his house again.
Why don't you quit rationalizing killing a defenseless animal. If you can justify it, then go for it. (Like we give a sh*t what your property value is.) Go out and take care of business or DON'T... but quit wasting our time with this ridiculous thread. (You could have trapped the animal and taken it to the shelter, in the amount of time you've spent typing away here.)
