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so i don't know how to do modifications to cars but love to read how people have made projects of their ls and the success they have. i've love to try some of the stuff everyone mentions when wouldn't know where to start or have the spare money to play with. :cool: i just got a question concerning the v6 engines as mine is one...

if the v6 engine is one that ford has used on multiple models in their brands and continues to use, what makes it so hard to make modifications to it? i would suspect that this power plant of an engine would be easily worked on in the past and many people know how to do things with it in terms of performance enhancement and repair costs being lower.

i would think that the main engine is the same, but parts like the transmission would be different for the different standards of the car, ie. the ls would be much higher standard than say a touras/sable using the same engine.

thanks for any info on this. i'm educating myself by reading these forums. keep up the posts everyone, great stuff.

-Rob
 
The LS is the only rear wheel drive and therefore the only longitudinal install of the 3.0L 24V. the LS also uses a different (first of the Fords) the next generation PCM, COP, dual exhaust and hydralic fan.

So...
what makes it tough - is nothing would bolt directly on to this version of the 3.0 because of layout, and then all the tuning is unique to this car. now of the platform pieces (suspension, brakes, ...etc) carry over (except bolt pattern on the wheels)

My wife drives a Taraus with the 3.0L 24V in it.
- the water pump is driven off a belt on the back of the cam
- the two exhaust manifolds join into a single exhaust
- there are plug wires going to a dual 3 piece iginition module
 
ok. thanks for the information. so its in the layout of the engine and how things are attached under the hood. totally makes sense, thanks.
 
didn't that happen with all the 24v versions? you could get the 3.0L in three versions - with the 24v being the top-of-the-line and the only one available in the LS.
 
3.0L 4V, V-6 DAMB Engine
Manufacturer/Assy. Plant Ford Motor Company
Brookpark, Ohio
(Cleveland Plant #2)
Engine Type 6-Cylinder; 60°V, Dual Overhead Cam
Horsepower (@ rpm) 210 (157kW) @ 6500
Torque (@ rpm) 205 (278 Nm) @ 4750
Displacement 3.0L
Bore and Stroke (mm) 89.0 x 79.5
Compression Ratio 10 .5:1
Engine Management PTEC-Powertrain Control Module
Main Bearings 4
Valve Lifters Direct-Acting Mechanical Bucket-Type
Tappets
Valves per Cylinder 4
Fuel Induction Sequential Multiport Fuel Injection
Fuel Recommendation Premium Unleaded (91 octane)
Exhaust Signal, with Dual Catalyst System
Ignition System Coil on Plug
Availability Lincoln LS



the 3.0 24v duratec in the ls had higher compression & fordged pistons, everything else was the same
 
ya, I remember that only because they made a big stink about it in dealer training lol they have since then adopted those parts into every duratec engine, such as the ones found in the fusions, 500's, escapes, etc etc startin in 05
 
I was sure they offered the 3.0 24v in the Ranger pick up. I tried to see if there are any Accessories for that application, but to no avail.
 
So with this said with V6 LS beefy internals , why hasn't anyone throw a nice 150 shot on one... that would put it right at the V8 power in a manual trans...? or Even a turbo with a nice a mount of boost
 
There is someone working on Belt Driven Turbo here on the site, should be making about 300 hp, hopefully. But won't be available till late spring or early summer of '09. As for Nitro, that can go either way with the 10.5 compression on these motors.
 
LEOV5 said:
I was sure they offered the 3.0 24v in the Ranger pick up. I tried to see if there are any Accessories for that application, but to no avail.
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The Ranger's only had the 3.0 12v Vulcan engine, other than that it was the 4.0 OHV and SOHC depending on the year. It is a tiny little guy with no power but they last forever.
 
lincoln00 said:
So with this said with V6 LS beefy internals , why hasn't anyone throw a nice 150 shot on one... that would put it right at the V8 power in a manual trans...?
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Someone has. They have ran deep into the 13's as well on a 125 shot if I remember correctly. They had other mods besides nitrous to make that happen of course. ;)
 
ILLS said:
The Ranger's only had the 3.0 12v Vulcan engine, other than that it was the 4.0 OHV and SOHC depending on the year. It is a tiny little guy with no power but they last forever.
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I have yet to see one with the 3.0 motor. All the ones I find have the 4.0 or the 2.3 four cyl motor. They make headers for the 2.5 from the Cougar, but I don't want to spend the money for a crap shoot. JBA makes a set for the Ranger with 3.0 http://products.jbaheaders.com/searchresults.asp, but no real picture of them. I keep looking when I read or hear something about performance item for any 3.0 or 2.5 V6 Ford. I still feel that the 3.5 V6 will fit, it's just finding one for a cheap enough price to try it out.
 
LEOV5 said:
I have yet to see one with the 3.0 motor. All the ones I find have the 4.0 or the 2.3 four cyl motor. They make headers for the 2.5 from the Cougar, but I don't want to spend the money for a crap shoot. JBA makes a set for the Ranger with 3.0 http://products.jbaheaders.com/searchresults.asp, but no real picture of them. I keep looking when I read or hear something about performance item for any 3.0 or 2.5 V6 Ford. I still feel that the 3.5 V6 will fit, it's just finding one for a cheap enough price to try it out.
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I own a 1993 Ranger with the 3.0 V6 Vulcan engine in it. It is a tiny little thing.
 
lincoln00 said:
the 3.0 was in the ranger 4.0 in the Explorer
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The Rangers have had the 2.3T (forgot about that one), 3.0 OHV, 4.0 OHV, and 4.0 SOHC. The Explorers have had the 4.0 OHV V6, 4.0 SOHC V6, 4.6 SOHC 2v V8, 4.6 SOHC 3v V8, 5.0 OHV V8.
 
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