Bump The Drama Vote OBAMA!!!!

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Wrong. Obama says 95% of working Americans. Go read.

Correct, 95% of working Americans, which admittedly is a little off, more like 92%:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/oct/20/your-taxing-questions-answered/

Whether people who owe no income taxes now should get refunds is a more of a philosophical question than a question for factcheckers. But we do want to answer reader questions about what happens to Obama's numbers if you don't count people who don't owe taxes. Would 95 percent of the workers who do pay taxes still see a reduction in taxes owed, or would that number decline?

We found the percentage drops, but only very slightly: It drops about 3 percentage points, from 95 percent to 92 percent.

We were surprised the change was that small. But it's easy to prove with a simple thought experiment. Here's how it works:

Let's say we're considering 100 workers. We know from the Tax Policy Center that five of them will not get a tax break under Obama's plan, and conversely 95 of them will. We also know that 38 of those workers do not owe any taxes thanks to credits and deductions.

So let's take the 38 workers who owe nothing and send them away. For the sake of our thought experiment, we're going to assume that all 38 got a tax cut under Obama's plan in the form of even lower tax liability. We should state clearly that this may not be the case — a few people with low incomes, depending on their specific circumstances, might not receive additional tax cuts under Obama's plan. But just to give the extra benefit of the doubt, we'll stipulate here that all 38 receive a tax cut.

So that leaves us with 62 workers who do pay taxes. If five of them don't get a tax cut under Obama's plan, that means 57 of 62 workers will get a tax cut. That's 92 percent.

So the "95 percent illusion" that the Wall Street Journal opinion piece describes is three points.

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Why should those who don't pay taxes get a break? They already don't pay taxes. A break from what?

Like I said before, your argument is false. If they already pay no taxes, then their "tax break" will be zero. Nobody has claimed, other than McCain's campaign, that the IRS would be handing out checks to people who don't pay taxes.

Wow, the denial is really thick where you live. You've never read any Karl Marx, obviously. What do you think "spreading the wealth" is, exactly?

Oh, OK, so handing out "economic stimulus checks" by the BuSh administration earlier this year, bailing out poor investments by handing the wealth of the taxpayer over to the greedy on Wall Street, and proposing another stimulus scheme by the GOP-chosen Fed chairman is "socialism". Got it, thanks.
 
Like I said before, your argument is false. If they already pay no taxes, then their "tax break" will be zero. Nobody has claimed, other than McCain's campaign, that the IRS would be handing out checks to people who don't pay taxes.
To the contrary, those who don't pay FEDERAL INCOME TAXES would be given refundable tax credits. - meaning you receive the money even if you have no income tax liability:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html

-A $500 tax credit ($1,000 a couple) to "make work pay" that phases out at income of $75,000 for individuals and $150,000 per couple.

- A $4,000 tax credit for college tuition.

- A 10% mortgage interest tax credit (on top of the existing mortgage interest deduction and other housing subsidies).

- A "savings" tax credit of 50% up to $1,000.

- An expansion of the earned-income tax credit that would allow single workers to receive as much as $555 a year, up from $175 now, and give these workers up to $1,110 if they are paying child support.

- A child care credit of 50% up to $6,000 of expenses a year.


Oh, OK, so handing out "economic stimulus checks" by the BuSh administration earlier this year, bailing out poor investments by handing the wealth of the taxpayer over to the greedy on Wall Street, and proposing another stimulus scheme by the GOP-chosen Fed chairman is "socialism". Got it, thanks.
You're right.


And that "they pay taxes" is totally dishonest and deceptive.
"well they pay social security and sales tax" isn't the point, we're talking about federal income taxes.
 
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I noticed my thread was closed directly after i posted funny pics of McCain and Palin and the last person to touch it was Calabrio who posted a pic of McCain and Nixon then its closed. What's the deal with that so i post funny pics of McCain and you get mad but it's ok for you to post pics of Obama poking fun at him.

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That's ok. Don't feel bad. My reply was removed from there which asked:



What do Obama and JFK have in common?
 
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Yes, I'm ignorant because I relayed a joke I was told and posting Photoshopped pictures of people isn't? That's ok. I think neither of these clowns is fit to run a video store let alone this country.
 
Yes, I'm ignorant because I relayed a joke I was told and posting Photoshopped pictures of people isn't? That's ok. I think neither of these clowns is fit to run a video store let alone this country.



That joke is not a funny joke it implies that if and when Obama is elected that he will share the same fate as Kennedy. Now if you want to put ignorant jokes like that on LVC then create your own thread.
 
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