Palin emails hacked

[MonsterMark]

Looks like Nick Denton over at Gawker just bought himself a one-way ticket back to Britain. What an a-hole.

I hope the FBI nails these guys.

4chan is claimed to have done the hack using a TOR proxie to cover their tracks. Then wikileaks published it and gawker was stupid enough to report on it and make it a big deal.

http://www.nickdenton.org/

Bye Bye Nick. All your 'friends' are going to let you hang by yourself.

 

[foxpaws]

Should be interesting reading - http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1842097,00.html

 

[Calabrio]

....perhaps I didn't notice it.
But I must have missed the part of your post where you were outraged and condemned the person responsible for breaking into her e-mail, and your disgust for the people who published this information. I seemed to have missed the part where you were angry that these people all compromised the safety and privacy of her minor children as well...

You did mean to say that, right?

 

[foxpaws]

....perhaps I didn't notice it.
But I must have missed the part of your post where you were outraged and condemned the person responsible for breaking into her e-mail, and your disgust for the people who published this information. I seemed to have missed the part where you were angry that these people all compromised the safety and privacy of her minor children as well...

You did mean to say that, right?

So, I guess that is directed towards me...

sorry, I just think that the upcoming events will be interesting reading, I didn't condemn, but I guess by the lack of vehement verbal outrage I condoned?

I just put in a link to the Time article, I thought someone might be interested in reading (as in 'interesting') story - not to the 'perpertators' site like mr monster.

Looks like Nick Denton over at Gawker just bought himself a one-way ticket back to Britain. What an a-hole.

I hope the FBI nails these guys.

4chan is claimed to have done the hack using a TOR proxie to cover their tracks. Then wikileaks published it and gawker was stupid enough to report on it and make it a big deal.

http://www.nickdenton.org/

Bye Bye Nick. All your 'friends' are going to let you hang by yourself.

 

[Marcus]

sorry, I just think that the upcoming events will be interesting reading, I didn't condemn, but I guess by the lack of vehement verbal outrage I condoned?

Yes. It works the same way as the rule stating you cannot criticize any aspect of the administration's War On Terror without also strongly condemning the terrorists themselves every single time. Never mind the fact that for those of us who don't need constant reassurance of our moral superiority, it's taken for granted that terrorism is bad. Or, in this case, hacking into someone's email account.

 

[Calabrio]

Yes. It works the same way as the rule stating you cannot criticize any aspect of the administration's War On Terror without also strongly condemning the terrorists themselves every single time. Never mind the fact that for those of us who don't need constant reassurance of our moral superiority, it's taken for granted that terrorism is bad. Or, in this case, hacking into someone's email account.

Actually, when someone's account is hacked, some of the contents of which are then posted online, a response reading "should be interesting reading" logically can be taken to mean that the e-mails resulting from said violation of privacy should make for interesting reading.

And if you do a quick scan of the internet right now, the left-wing websites are repeating such sentiment.

As for your War on Terror "rule," I'm not familiar with it, nor have I seen it enforced.

 

[fossten]

Lefties cherry pick their outrage all the time.

They bemoan the loss of first amendment freedoms in the PATRIOT ACT, but they don't care about the fact that over 20,000 gun laws have eroded the second amendment.

They cry about no-bid contracts being given to American oil companies, but they don't care that much of our oil money is going overseas.

They call Bush a dictator for making decisions about enemy combatants, but they blow a tonsil over justices like Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas, who believe that the SCOTUS should not make law but rather interpet it, per the Constitution.

They bleat about Larry Craig, Mark Foley, and Randy Cunningham, but excuse Charles Rangel, Barney Frank, Gerry Studds, and William Jefferson.

The lack of outrage in this particular case, Palin's emails, is the same lack of outrage that followed Chuck Schumer's staff outing Michael Steele's SSN and other private information during the 2006 campaign. But Valerie Plame? We had a multipage thread about that one, a couple of years ago.

 

[fossten]

AP is refusing to comply with Secret Service request for copies of email.

 

[fossten]

Yes. It works the same way as the rule stating you cannot criticize any aspect of the administration's War On Terror without also strongly condemning the terrorists themselves every single time. Never mind the fact that for those of us who don't need constant reassurance of our moral superiority, it's taken for granted that terrorism is bad. Or, in this case, hacking into someone's email account.

You yourself have been quite vocal and even strident in bemoaning the loss of privacy rights and freedom thanks to the evil PATRIOT ACT. Your lack of outrage in this case is the most notable.

 

[ford nut]

Should be interesting reading - http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1842097,00.html

It was a interesting read.
A few things surprised me I somehow missed this.

This is not the first time computer habits have become an issue for the McCain-Palin team. In January, John McCain told reporters that he doesn't know how to check email. When asked whether he prefers a Mac or a PC, McCain replied, "Neither. I am an illiterate that has to rely on my wife for all of the assistance that I can get." He later added: "I am learning to get online myself." He might want to stay offline for the time being.

I hope he learns how to get online soon

....perhaps I didn't notice it.
But I must have missed the part of your post where you were outraged and condemned the person responsible for breaking into her e-mail, and your disgust for the people who published this information. I seemed to have missed the part where you were angry that these people all compromised the safety and privacy of her minor children as well...

You did mean to say that, right?

Why would you think that someone would have to say that ?
We all use e-mail...well almost all of us and think when we do its safe.

We all know hackers suck....I use Yahoo and wonder if its a Yahoo problem or did she do something stupid like use her zip code for a password.

Face it anyone of us can be hacked if you use poor judgement or easy passwords.

 

[lincolnx2]

Dumb Broad shouldnt use Yahoo! LOl

 

[Calabrio]

I hope he learns how to get online soon

McCain has significant physical injuries that make using a keyboard extremely uncomfortable and painful. It's the result of being tortured for five years and having your arms and shoulders repeatedly broken and then improperly set.

Despite this, McCain can function on a computer, as he has expressed this in earlier comments. Ones that Obama and his elitist liberal cronies have chosen to ignore.

Here is an article from 2000 from SLATE:
McCain's Web Explosion

Six months ago, no one would have pegged McCain as the most cybersavvy of this year's crop of candidates. At 63, he is the oldest of the bunch and because of his war injuries, he is limited in his ability to wield a keyboard. But McCain's job as chairman of the Senate commerce committee forced him to learn about the Internet early on, and young Web entrepreneurs such as Jerry Yang and Jeff Bezos fascinate him. Well before he announced his exploratory committee, McCain had assimilated the notion that the Web could be vital to the kind of insurgent, anti-establishment campaign he wanted to run.

We all use e-mail...well almost all of us and think when we do its safe.

We all know hackers suck....I use Yahoo and wonder if its a Yahoo problem or did she do something stupid like use her zip code for a password.

Face it anyone of us can be hacked if you use poor judgement or easy passwords.

You repeatedly demonstrate an inability to actually grasp the subjects were talking about here. She wasn't just randomly hacked. Her password wasn't 1-2-3-4. A politically motivated group, aiming to embarrass her, intimidate her, or find dirt on her, used their skills in a systematic way to violate her personal security, publish her private information and correspondences on the internet, and jeopardize the safety of her children by publishing their photos AND her daughter's cell phone number on the internet.

This wasn't a "poor judgment" issue. This was a direct attack.

Again, there's no hate like liberal hate.

And we wonder why good people avoid going into public office. When the liberals are threatened, in their mind, the political ends justify the despicable means.

 

[lincolnx2]

Why are we showing sympathy to McCain, he was captured because he was a "below Average" Leader. The only soldiers that get captured are those who gave up.

 

[fossten]

Um...who left the troll food out?

 

[lincolnx2]

I just hate when people try to make bad out to be good, he messed up read up on how he got captured, read on his military leadership, his father was an admiral, McCain didnt even make Commander, and now we want him to lead our country.

 

[fossten]

I just hate when people try to make bad out to be good, he messed up read up on how he got captured, read on his military leadership, his father was an admiral, McCain didnt even make Commander, and now we want him to lead our country.

McCain didn't make Commander because the North Vietnamese don't promote American POWs while breaking their shoulder bones.

And Obama's military qualifications are...? Obama's presidential qualifications are...?

 

[lincolnx2]

The Military still promote those who are MIA, and Obama has never claimed any sort of military qualification, and we picked our last politician based on his "political quilifications" and look where we are. It's time for a change.

 

[lincolnx2]

Its hard for a person who is a multi-millionaire to decide whats best for america, most of america aren't millionaires.

 

[fossten]

The Military still promote those who are MIA, and Obama has never claimed any sort of military qualification, and we picked our last politician based on his "political quilifications" and look where we are. It's time for a change.

You're going to get change either way, because Bush isn't running for a third term. The decision is whether you want policy change or system change. You really believe that Obama is going to be an effective president? Why?

 

[fossten]

Obama is a multimillionaire.

Next argument.

 

[lincolnx2]

Obama can relate to most americans, he worked hard to get where he is, he had to get up every morning just as u and i do. He wasnt given a comission or a position in life based on his family name. Its time for a "average joe" to lead, and he is one of the few who opposed the war on iraq, he want to crack down on afghanistanand eventually jordan (where majority of the 9-11 attackers where from)

 

[fossten]

Obama can't relate to me. He called me and others like me a bitter person who clings to guns, religion, and racism.

The man eats arugula for crying out loud.

And all he's ever done is run for public office. Even as a US Senator he's spent most of his time there running for President.

Even now he's trying to incite a civil war.

If you think Obama's an average joe, you're snowed.

 

[lincolnx2]

Obama knew there had to be change, thats why he was so aggresive in becoming president, and McCain doesnt even realize there is a recession going on. people have lost jobs, houses, cars, and gas is outrageous. and McCain says the economy is strong, if i werent in the military i would be scared as heck.

 

[lincolnx2]

there is a difference between old money and new money, barrack knows what he owns (new money) McCain just owns too much, he doesnt even know he owns stuff (old money)

 

[foxpaws]

So, since McCain didn't invent the internet, lets get back to Palin and her emails...

I do think it is awful that a hacker deliberately went after her accounts (I wouldn’t want my email hacked – agggh….). Although, perhaps with her past, someone (yes, with an agenda, obviously left) had reason to look – from reading the article Palin, in the past, has used personal email accounts for official government business. And that in the case Time mentions the government actually went (hacked) into another of Palin’s Yahoo private accounts.

So, we have a big wrong, however that big wrong could be caused by an earlier little wrong. The hacking was awful, but, by leaving herself open to question, (the earlier use of private email accounts for government business) maybe she became an easy target. She shouldn’t be using her private email accounts for government business. I don’t ever cross those two lines, and I am just in the private sector. I would think if you were in government, where there needs to be disclosure of information, that you would only use the government’s traceable, accountable forms of communication in your office.

But, the government didn’t do anything in this case, they weren't the 'hackers' – it is sort of hard to bemoan loss of rights, particularly the right of privacy, when it doesn’t have anything to do with the government looking into her emails, just an opportunistic hacker with visions of glory and 15 minutes of fame. I don’t see any 4th Amendment rights being violated (right, this would be a 4th amendment issue – and this isn’t a freedom of press issue, or am I missing something?).

And, if all that was out there in this account was photos of her kids, emails about last week’s barbecue at the lake, her daughter's cell phone number, and moose stew recipes, this probably wouldn’t have gone anywhere. The hacker would have gotten in, rooted around, posted some stupid stuff, and it would have blown over (nothing to see here – move along). But, there is something there – I am not quite sure what, but from the Time article it sounded like conversations between her and the Lt Gov. She should be using government emails for that probably, unless of course, they were the ones exchanging the moose stew recipes.