*sigh* how hard is the engine removal and reinstallation on this piece?

[Barwick]

Ok, looks like my best option is to pull the #%(*ing motor and replace it with a used one (by the way, #@*% FORD)

How hard is it to pull the motor out of this piece? And by "piece" I'm referring to the P.O.S. 2000 LS V8 that now has rod knock and is about to blow the entire motor. So.... basically, seeing as pulling the valve covers to replace the gaskets (why do these EVER go bad?) was enough of a pain, how hard is it to yank the entire motor out and put a new one back in?

 

[nickandersonLS01]

If you have an engine lift, and you mark all the connections, have a friend, it shouldnt be TOO bad, except the part where you have to tow it to the dealership to reprogram the computer(im pretty sure u have to do this, someone prove me wrong)

 

[Quik LS]

in your other thread - you did not seem to do much, if any, of the work yourself - VC gaskets, bearing, regulator, ....

An engine - much more difficult.

If you can get the car in the air, drop the front-end and engine out the bottom - like they installed it in the factory - it will be much easier. Pulling it out the hood means much more disassembly.

 

[nearlyhalfamile]

you have to tow it to the dealership to reprogram the computer(im pretty sure u have to do this, someone prove me wrong)

Why would this need to be done for a mechanical problem that is being fixed with stock parts?

 

[LSE-V8]

I just did a comple engine swap on my 01 V8. The only way is like Quick said, jack the car up, and take out the engine through the bottom. I think if you take your time, should take 3 working days. And yes, although I did it, you need patience and some cold beer to do this, lol. If you feel confident in your self, then you'll be ok. The hardest part for me was, the whole radiator, fan, condenser assemly, and hooking up the tranny to the driveshaft. Took me like 1 hour to make it fit right.

 

[nickandersonLS01]

Why would this need to be done for a mechanical problem that is being fixed with stock parts?

I said someone prove me wrong.... can you?

 

[NYC LS8]

If you're putting in a second gen LS motor, or swapping to a V6 you're gonna need PCM/ECM work. Swapping in/out the same motor there's no need. That's no proof, just common sense.

 

[97stscaddy]

Swapping a motor with a direct replacement is no different than changing an alternator or serpentine belt, as far as the ECM is concerned.

 

[Quik LS]

If you're putting in a second gen LS motor - you're gonna need PCM/ECM work.

it's alot more than that - throttle-by-wire, CAN bus (meaning most of the other computers swap), cluster, trannie, e-brake, much of the wiring harness, ...etc

 

[Quik LS]

Swapping a motor with a direct replacement is no different than changing an alternator or serpentine belt, as far as the ECM is concerned.

there are different base PCM strategies - that's why we have to build tunes on top of the current PCM code - I do not know what the differences are - but there are different code within the same model year....

 

[nearlyhalfamile]

I said someone prove me wrong.... can you?

Yeah, because as my question indicated... you are replacing mechanical parts. You are going from stock broken mechanical part to stock working mechanical part, there are no electronics involved. It would be like having you computer reprogrammed every time you did any maintenance or filled up your gas tank. If the computer was being changed that would be a whole different story, but we are talking about just the engine.

 

[Barwick]

It's a shame I don't have access to the lift facility I used to.

I've done swaps on RX-7's, done the tranny on my old Civic, done a ton of the work on my buddy's MR-2 engine swap and conversion to the turbo motor (the 3SGTE I think? I forget), and did the stupid valve cover gaskets on this thing, tried to do the wheel bearing, but the "it's not a press fit" like the manual says is BS, and had to tow it to the shop, did the control arm on this, and if I go on with minor stuff, I'd be here all day, but suffice to say I can do it, but I HATE getting into big projects like this, I always get pissed off halfway through and want to take a stick of dynamite to the car.

Hey... there's an idea...

OH, by the way, the car is for sale with all its extras:
http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?t=33388