Quaker State Defy?

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Anybody run it? I've been doing alot of research and it seems like a pretty stout high mileage oil from all the voa and uoa's i've seen.. It is sl rated thus meaning it's ok for <2004 vehicles, but i'm a wee bit concerned about the added zinc and how it could, if at all, effect the motor.

Just trying to find a decent hm oil and stick to it. This is well priced and from the looks of it well made.
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Fwiw, even w/ the higher than sm cat zinc levels it still states it's ok for emissions equipment.
 
zinc

sbcaprice305 said:
Anybody run it? I've been doing alot of research and it seems like a pretty stout high mileage oil from all the voa and uoa's i've seen.. It is sl rated thus meaning it's ok for <2004 vehicles, but i'm a wee bit concerned about the added zinc and how it could, if at all, effect the motor.

Just trying to find a decent hm oil and stick to it. This is well priced and from the looks of it well made.
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zinc is great for the motor - some say it's hard on sensors
 
sbcaprice305 said:
Anybody run it? I've been doing alot of research and it seems like a pretty stout high mileage oil from all the voa and uoa's i've seen.. It is sl rated thus meaning it's ok for <2004 vehicles, but i'm a wee bit concerned about the added zinc and how it could, if at all, effect the motor.

Just trying to find a decent hm oil and stick to it. This is well priced and from the looks of it well made.
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You don't like fully synthetic Mobile 1 or Royal Purple? This Defy stuff is something new. Not saying it's not good but I roll with what I know has been working good for years. Nascar beats those cars around the track. Bet not one of them has Defy in them. What's the official oil of NASCAR? :p

I use Mobile 1, 5W-30 fully synthetic and change it about every 7,000 to 7,500 miles. It don't even have to be changed then but I will do it. I haven't even drove mine that far yet since I bought it in 2010. :D Jamie had Mobile 1 5000 in it when I got it. I left it in for a month maybe and got it out. I like knowing that lubrication is there at start up, conventional oil, not so much. When they show the Defy commercial and Dale Jr. is standing next to that Chevy truck and his hat shows 300,000+ miles, BS! The truck might have that many miles on it but it wasn't with that oil.
 
I've been a Mobil 1 fan since the 80's but have since switched to Royal Purple. I don't know about Defy but I've never heard anything good about Quaker State.
 
I remember back in the 80's over in Decatur, AL., the city was using Quaker State in their garbage trucks and dump trucks and other vehicles and they had to swap out or rebuild almost all of their engines because of using Quaker State. It had gummed up everything so bad that none of them were running good at all. I knew a guy that worked in the city's garage when I lived in that city and he was one of the mechanics for them. He told me all about it.

It may be a good oil now, idk but I personally wouldn't use it, even if they have a synthetic oil.
 
It's pretty much what the reg quaker state hm was but with added zinc/zddp. I'm most concerned on the added effects of it on our particular motor/emmisions system and if it's worth even using. Already bought it so I either return it in exchange for some Valvoline Maxlife or Penn hm. Come spring i'll consider m1 syn hm.

I'm not hard on my car at all, might air it out once a week. I'm all about the mpg's so I don't need the maxo supremo fully synthetic brand oil.

NoLimit95 said:
I remember back in the 80's over in Decatur, AL., the city was using Quaker State in their garbage trucks and dump trucks and other vehicles and they had to swap out or rebuild almost all of their engines because of using Quaker State. It had gummed up everything so bad that none of them were running good at all. I knew a guy that worked in the city's garage when I lived in that city and he was one of the mechanics for them. He told me all about it.

It may be a good oil now, idk but I personally wouldn't use it, even if they have a synthetic oil.
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Alot has changed in the oil game the last 30 years. But with stuff like that its hard to forget and is in one way or another etched in the brain. Kinda like the ol' 3000/3month oil changes. All I know is that Penn/QS id good(better) stuff these days.
 
sbcaprice305 said:
It's pretty much what the reg quaker state hm was but with added zinc/zddp. I'm most concerned on the added effects of it on our particular motor/emmisions system and if it's worth even using. Already bought it so I either return it in exchange for some Valvoline Maxlife or Penn hm. Come spring i'll consider m1 syn hm.

I'm not hard on my car at all, might air it out once a week. I'm all about the mpg's so I don't need the maxo supremo fully synthetic brand oil.



Alot has changed in the oil game the last 30 years. But with stuff like that its hard to forget and is in one way or another etched in the brain. Kinda like the ol' 3000/3month oil changes. All I know is that Penn/QS id good(better) stuff these days.
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Yes, I would agree, that with time, the oils have gotten better but what some people don't know is that changing your oil every 3,000 miles is really not the best thing in the world for the engine. Some may disagree but research it. Get the opinions and facts about it. From what I have read, it's actually harder on the engine to have fresh brand new oil in. In ones mind, it sounds like a good thing because it is fresh clean oil but it's also "conventional oil". When you cold start your engine with conventional oil, the much needed lubrication is not there, like it would be with "fully synthetic". Lets say you had Mobile 1 FS or Royal Purple FS or Amsoil FS, when you started it at a cold start, the parts that need the immediate lubrication, have it. The fully synthetic leaves a coating on those parts and they are ready for the cold start and on top of that, the fully synthetic doesn't break down like conventional oil, which means, there is absolutely no need for changing it every 3,000 miles. Mobile 1 can be ran for an easy 8,000 to 10,000 miles and probably still hasn't endured any breakdown.

Yes, it's high but the best way to buy Mobile 1, if that's what someone was to use would be to buy it at Wal-Mart in the 5 quart jug for $27 and then buy one additional quart for the complete oil change. You're looking right at $34.00 for the oil but it is fine for 7,500 miles easily. Everyone has their set ways of how they change their oil and what kind they use but IMO, fully synthetic is the way to go, especially for yourself wanting to have better fuel mileage.

[url]http://auto.howstuffworks.com/under-the-hood/vehicle-maintenance/change-oil-3000-miles.htm[/URL]

[url]http://genxfinance.com/dont-be-fooled-into-thinking-an-oil-change-every-3000-miles-is-necessary/[/URL]

[url]http://suite101.com/article/synthetic-oil-vs-conventional-motor-oil-a136539[/URL]
 
Well this oil change I want to use a reg conv/semi hm oil. If I can get away with changing the m1 syn hm once a year/8000~ miles i'll switch to it in the spring and send it to blackstone after 6 months to see how its doing. I don't mind spending the $40~ per change if it'll last me a year, but if i'd have to change it twice per year i'd much rather do a couple 25-30 changes instead. I just don't rack up that many miles is all.
 
i use conventional oil and change it when the message center says to.
i've done it that way for 50k miles, and my parents and the previous owners did it for 140k miles before that.
no issues. still looks clean under the oil cap and propels me to illegal speeds in a short amount of time. you all worry too much. :D
 
chris2523 said:
i use conventional oil and change it when the message center says to.
i've done it that way for 50k miles, and my parents and the previous owners did it for 140k miles before that.
no issues. still looks clean under the oil cap and propels me to illegal speeds in a short amount of time. you all worry too much. :D
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This...except i change ever 3500-4000 miles regardless what oil monitor says....use what's in the barrel at work...has served me very well through out the years...have yet to damage any engine...no major engine repairs...and I have a lead foot

Some of you guys are way to anal...relax it's only a car...And if you ever torn a engine down regular oil stays where it needs to be...any oil no matter what is not gonna give you instant oil pressure on start...but if you were to pull a main bearing you will see there is lubrication there no matter what kind of oil it is
 
nolimit95 said:
you don't like fully synthetic mobile 1 or royal purple? This defy stuff is something new. Not saying it's not good but i roll with what i know has been working good for years. Nascar beats those cars around the track. Bet not one of them has defy in them. What's the official oil of nascar? :p

i use mobile 1, 5w-30 fully synthetic and change it about every 7,000 to 7,500 miles. It don't even have to be changed then but i will do it. I haven't even drove mine that far yet since i bought it in 2010. :d jamie had mobile 1 5000 in it when i got it. I left it in for a month maybe and got it out. I like knowing that lubrication is there at start up, conventional oil, not so much. When they show the defy commercial and dale jr. Is standing next to that chevy truck and his hat shows 300,000+ miles, bs! The truck might have that many miles on it but it wasn't with that oil.
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87ttopgt420 said:
some of you guys are way to anal...relax it's only a car...and if you ever torn a engine down regular oil stays where it needs to be...any oil no matter what is not gonna give you instant oil pressure on start...but if you were to pull a main bearing you will see there is lubrication there no matter what kind of oil it is
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I was just at the junkyard and there's a 95 conti engine that someone pulled.They took a head and pulled three piston/rods out and the journals and rod bearings still looked new.I doubt that engine had synthetic in it.I do run synthetic but I also have a heavy foot and it's only $25 for five quarts.A

I switched from mobil 1 to valvoline fs and right away it started quicker and idled smoother and a little better mpg.I think mobil 1 is good but valvoline is better and the same price.At about 5000 miles m1 is black when checking it.I just went cross country in june from wi to az for 3 months then san diego for about 1 month.I just came back three weeks ago and the valvoline still looks clean and that oil has been in there since spring.it didn't use any oil until I went through the rockies on the way back.When I left it was around 131.xxx now at 138.xxx. Mobil 1 no thanks!
 
Whether it's Quaker State, Penzoil, Castrol, Mobil One, Royal Purple, the new G oil, it don't really matter. All are very capable products that give your car no adverse affect. I got a friend who drag races, and uses O'Reilly oil.
 
Question: Who makes O'Reilly's brand of oil?

Answer: O'Reilly's brand of oil is manufactured and packaged by Omni Specialty Packaging. Omni is an independent lubricant manufacturer in Shreveport, LA. While Omni is not affiliated with any "major" manufacturer, we do buy our base oils from companies like Exxon/Mobil and Shell.

Question: What specs does O'Reilly's motor oil meet and how does it compare to name brand oils?

Answer: O'Reilly's brand motor oils meet API 'SM' service classification and where applicable ILSAC 'GF-4'. Both API 'SM' and ILSAC 'GF-4' are the latest industry standards for passenger car motor oils. These are the same specifications that all "major" brand oils should meet.

Now, I don't want anyone to take what I say as a suggestion to what oil they should run. I'm just simply saying that I use Mobile 1, Fully Synthetic and it stays in my engine for up to 7,500 miles. What I have in there now has about 4,500 on it and is still clear, just like the day I put it in. I have a very smooth idle and no knocking sounds at start up, even a cold start. Up above somewhere, it was mentioned that there was no difference with synthetic and conventional when it comes to cold starts. there is a difference and no, there is not as much needed lubrication already coated on the inner parts with normal conventional oil. Fully Synthetic provides that. I might swap to Amsoil for the next change but I'll never come off FS oil, for conventional oil. Just like gas, I'll never stop using 93 octane.

Y'all use whatever you want and change it in the intervals as you want. If it works for you, then stick with it. I'm not saying what you're doing is wrong and I'm not saying what I'm doing is the right way. It's just what I want to use in my car. :)

caprice, I have no clue about having extra Zinc being ran in the engine. :confused: It's something new and I'm sure with time, people will be responding to how well it's working for them, I'm sure. I don't think I'd put it in my car personally but that's just me. When Lincoln put the Mark III out on the lot, what kind of oil was put in the cars? Does anyone know the answer to that one?
 
Outlaw94 said:
.At about 5000 miles m1 is black when checking it.I just went cross country in june from wi to az for 3 months then san diego for about 1 month.I just came back three weeks ago and the valvoline still looks clean and that oil has been in there since spring./QUOTE]

The Mobil 1 is and should be black (And so should any oil) after 5,000 mile due to detergents cleaning up hydrocarbons. If not they are forming deposits in the engine.
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Don Pfau said:
The Mobil 1 is and should be black (And so should any oil) after 5,000 mile due to detergents cleaning up hydrocarbons. If not they are forming deposits in the engine.
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I think Mobile 1 cleaned his engine up for him lol. Now the Valvoline is looking like the good guy. :p Mine is clean and clear at 4,500 miles but I'm also not driving all across the country.
 
I had Mobil 1 in there twice for about 5000 miles each time and it was pitch black both times.After using it the second time a FS at 5000 shouldn't look that bad and it was using about half a quart with M1.I'll stick with Valvoline as it runs better with it.

I just found this and think I'll be sticking with 5w30 and I just bought 2w20 glad I didn't change it yet.

http://forums.corral.net/forums/svt-dohc/1380619-oil-viscosity-dohc-ford.html
 
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